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Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:46 AM
was bored surfin the net and came across this, why do these guys act like this? jealousy? http://www.clubcav.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4781

Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:01 PM
You just have to realize that is the way some people are. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and one of the nice things about the internet, is you are free to share it. Some might not like it, that is life.

As for clubcav specifically, I know they invite people over there from this site, because it's "nicer" there. I visit the site from time to time, and sure there are less haters, but that is because there are less people. The proportion of normal people to haters is the same, its just that we have many thousands more visitors then they do. What they probably don't realize is if they were to get as big as we are here, it would be just as bad there. As above, thats life, thats just the way it works.

And one last thing... if they start enforcing rules to make sure there are fewer haters there, then let it be known now that THEY will have become the nazis they accused us of being here.

That is all.
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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:46 PM
looks like they are just jealous because they cant afford mods remember they have rick howe as a respected business member there as well... <br>


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:12 PM
as far as "nicer" MAYBE in the people on there but the site as a whole, information and ease of use i love this site. they cant compare. im all for the clean look but from the cars i see over there they are mostly stock, which is fine but then they rip on us because the members on this site have alot more mods. i have tried to do my car up tastfully and keep it clean looking with alot of mods on it. and as for the a$$hat the said if he ever saw a car in a parking lot with a frenched liscense plate he would throw a brick threw the rear window. you better hope its not my car you decided to %$#@ with! exesive fire your car is hot as hell it blew me away to see that on there.
Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 2:42 PM
They are all basicly JBO rejects, i mean hell, Rick Howe posts there and they love him.

They are complaining that we are haters, but yet look at some of the @!#$ they are saying about those cars. And for the comment on smashing someones window for a frenched plate, id bust him up so bad id probably kill him if he did it to my car. <br>


Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 2:54 PM
it shows the level of maturity on the site when a mod makes a statement like the following. i mean not every one here agrees with our mods but atleast they're polite about things

Quote:


CavlrZ
:MODERATOR ADMIN:

Quote:

jokr wrote:
looks like most of you are jealous because your cars suck


it looks like your a fag and headed for a ban


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:01 PM
I know, thats another thing i noticed. The site is @!#$, thats all there is to it. Saying something like that mod did on here would get you banned. What a bunch of trolls <br>


Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:09 PM
my thoughts exactly. oh well as you said above most of them are basically JBO rejects....and it shows. <br>


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:26 PM
That is a weak attack on the JBO. But there are times that I get tired of the massive amount of people that say use the Search Button in 1 thread.

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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:30 PM
Samsfire wrote:

i mean not every one here agrees with our mods but atleast they're polite about things


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:35 PM
^^ <br>



Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:39 PM
Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:44 PM
so to them jbo is ppl with modded trunk lids? lmao what a bunch of fags, jbo has everything u need on info...........alltho i must agree on 1 thing tho there is way to much
*REPOST* *USE SEARCH* replys on here
we r not all nerds on here 24/7, its not a crime to miss a post or 2
alltho i LOVE JBO <br>


Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:51 PM
2nd string. <br>


Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:20 PM
They make fun of Andy Brooks' car, but NONE of their cars will ever be as well done as his.... <br>


Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:43 PM
they post what 3 pics of cars here with plates like that , and we have what 25,000 or so members



ahahahahaaaa


but to each their own


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:49 PM
i post on both sites. i like JBO for its huge amount of knowledge and information, not to mention way more members to get feedback from, but ClubCav is decent too.

there are plenty of guys on ClubCav that hate on JBO, and people on JBO that hate on ClubCav, but there are lots of good people on both sites.

i'll continue to post on both, and stay away from the flame-throwing. <br>


Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:04 PM
Dave wrote:

if they start enforcing rules to make sure there are fewer haters there, then let it be known now that THEY will have become the nazis they accused us of being here.


Ain't that the truth

One of the ClubCav members is only there because we banned him from BC J-Body years ago.

There is a lot of misinformation spread around there... I've been mis-quoted there several times, even one person who blew their engine on bad advice someone on CC gave them, then he emailed me directly (i'd never even talked to him) and asked when he was going to get his new engine from me... woah dude.

Oh yeah, and the whole Rick thing. Personally, I've never had a problem with him. My buddy Armand roomed with him at the 02 California pre-bash meet. Nice enough guy.. likes J's, which is enough for me. But screwing people over? That's just wrong no matter who you are.

If I had more spare time.. I'd go there.. but really.. ClubCav? Where's ClubFire?

...j <br>

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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:34 PM
hello guys


we at clubcav are just trying to do our best.... natuarally no matter where you go when you have multible forums for the same subject, people are going to divide.... i've honestly been getting sick and tired of the ranting..... the only real ranting that happened on clubcav was from afew people, a small percentage of the forum.... most of the people on clubcav havn't even been on this site before....

i'm going to warn the people who been repeditively saying things on our forum



i would like to note that clubcav.com does not support inter-forum ranting and harassment.... however we do rule with a light hand and we do and have let alot slide.... as of now i'm not going to accept any more JBO directed threads that contain threats or immature comments,

i also think that both sites need to prevent negative stereotypes of each other




....... okay, just another half asleep post from me... lol, anyways, have a good evening!



btw, clubcav views j-body.org as the ultimate source of information, you can find almost anything here
Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:49 PM
Samsfire wrote:

it shows the level of maturity on the site when a mod makes a statement like the following. i mean not every one here agrees with our mods but atleast they're polite about things

Quote:


CavlrZ
:MODERATOR ADMIN:

Quote:

jokr wrote:
looks like most of you are jealous because your cars suck


it looks like your a fag and headed for a ban




i would kinda like to explain that comment to prevent any misconceptions.... that comment was posted by a newbie who hasn't ever posted on clubcav recently.... he just came out and started flaming all of us....... according to another moderator he has been harsh to our members before.... out of 40some posts, only three havn't been deleted.... soo that does say something about him.... he is a troll and we really been getting tired of people coming here just to flame us, it's getting old and annoying


we, just like you guys, don't like mean comments, expecially on our own forum.... and i felt given the situation, that comment was mild, as compared to what was deserved...


...i'm sure that you guys would have banned him in a heart beat if said that everyone here had cars that sucked
Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:59 PM
^^ at least you explained yourself but we get people on here consantly that make fun of our cars and say we waste our money or say that we are "ricers" and such, that just a part of a forum of this type. when there is such a diverse variety of car forums you are bound to get people that say their DSM, honda, F-body, other j-body owners, hell even a geo metro...what ever the case may be is so much better than our cars...but it doesnt justify a comment like that....the appropriate thing would have been to ban that IP address that the posts originated from or ban the username. not send a dirogatory comment back at them <br>


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:09 PM
CavlrZ wrote:

We, just like you guys, don't like mean comments, expecially on our own forum.... and i felt given the situation, that comment was mild, as compared to what was deserved...

...i'm sure that you guys would have banned him in a heart beat if said that everyone here had cars that sucked


Yes, but he would have been banned quietly out of the public eye, without the unnecessary show of internet toughness. Around here, we usually try and lead by example, and doing what you are banning another for may set an example that you don't want followed.

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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:45 PM
yeah, thats very true... but hey, i swear thats the only time i said anything like that... i've been sick lately and bogged down with work, kinda stressed out....... the last thing i wanted to do that night when i sat down was to babysit that thread, if you ask anyone, i'm ussually very good with it

... you can even ask banned members, i've been respectful to them



i do know banning would have een the easiest thing to do... but i don't have access to banning people, and the person in charge of banning, our head admin, doesn't come on too much since he is busy with life...... soo ussually end up never banning people unless if there a long-term problem



either way, that thead is gone now.....




acutally, to be quite honest, let's just blame it on the alcohol everyone is allowed there share of drunkard posts, lol



Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:01 PM
I'm the admin cavlrz spoke of. I don't have a problem with jbo, never have. I've disliked somethings that have gone on, but that's going to be the way it is no matter where I go. There are some people on clubcav that hate jbo, and that's the opinion they're entitled to, but that doesn't represent everyone on that site. That's like saying everyone on here hates fords just because a few have said they do. I've seen just as many "clubcav sucks" posts on here as I've seen "I hate jbo" on clubcav, but for the most part we try to keep that from getting out of hand.

When it comes to his comments, I've talked to him about it and the situation will not repeat itself. The one comment I'd like to make in his defense is that that comment he replied to came from someone who hasn't posted on "shown his face" so to speak on clubcav since September of '03, so that may have had something to do with it. Not excusing his conduct, just giving some context to it.

As for the name "clubcav", I didn't pick it, I don't own the site, I was just asked to administer it. But we have members (including moderators) with various cars, so we don't discriminate, it's just a name.

As for the rick situation, he's been banned, 3 times. As Dave probably knows he has a dynamic IP so it's somewhat difficult to keep him banned, but we've taken care of it. I don't know him personally, but I have been around here long enough to know all the stories of his business practices. Even with that said, when he first joined, I let it go, with the stipulation that he not advertise nor try to sell anything in classifieds. He broke both agreements, and he was banned.

As for the comments on the cars, that was their opinion, whether I agree or not I'm not going to chastise members because of their opinions, even if they someone talked the same way about my own car. There are probably other people on here who feel the same way, and they may or not let their feelings be known, that's the way it goes.

John Lenko wrote:

There is a lot of misinformation spread around there... I've been mis-quoted there several times, even one person who blew their engine on bad advice someone on CC gave them, then he emailed me directly (i'd never even talked to him) and asked when he was going to get his new engine from me... woah dude.


With this comment, I'm not sure what you're talking about. I know I'm not on there all that often, but exactly who are you referring to (the person mis-quoting / the person who blew their engine)? If you give me their user-name or email I'd like to ask them a few things. I myself am a mechanic, and while I may not have all the technical knowledge in the world, and while I do make mistakes, I'm usually pretty good at going over the technical information that's posted. Not saying I couldn't have missed it, or mis-read it, but there are others on clubcav who also have an automotive background.

You should realize however, that even with all the knowledge that's on this site, there will always be instances of misinformation, it can't be helped. From things such as large spoilers helping keep traction and better aerodynamics to the ever popular moving the IAT sensor and resistor scams to being able to tell someone how much boost they can run generically (no info about turbo specs) without fuel mods, there will always be some type of foul information, so it shouldn't be expected that clubcav be perfect on it either.

I again would like to say I have no problem with this site, I've been here quite a while (originally started "trolling" around back in '00). I've been a premium member, even during the time I was on clubcav more then I was here, because I wanted to do my little part in supporting the site I began with and got so much platform specific information from, and I'm considering doing it again for the same reason. I will continue to try to keep things on my side on a positive note, I can't stop people from posting their feelings right or wrong, but I will put out fires where I can. I just wish there wasn't so much animosity between these two sites.

Thanks
Jason <br>


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Re: Whats up with this.... check it out
Monday, January 31, 2005 6:26 AM
I went to ClubCav one time and it was like ClubSi... Just a bunch of young'uns complaining about other cars. So I left...

As for ClubCav vs. JBO....

ClubCav is blocked by government computers for "Tasteless"

JBO has only been blocked one time by these computers for "Forum Chat"

Because Dave and moderators keep a close eye on the launguage and content of the site (and the password'ed forums) this site has been open for my use during this deployment...

ClubCav doesn't have that.

Thank you Dave and the Mods... <br>

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