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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Monday, March 14, 2005 9:08 PM
KRI Motorsports.com wrote:

In case anyone forgot, that's how GM's semi that housed the prototype cars
(cavalier TURBO & sunfire S/C) got jacked. They had a key for the semi cut & stole it all.


Did they ever find them cars or no?


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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:02 AM
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the vin location has been placed there for many reasons.. one of them for the police to also id cars other than plates.

remember the guy that had a Toyota cavalier with all the badges and was getting hassled by a cop that pulled him over?lol


i once went into the parking lot after being at the mall, went to "my" car. put my stuff in the trunk. got in put my key in to start it up. two things got my attention real fast one the key would not turn. and more importantly there was no clutch petal! i locked the car and got my stuff. i found my own car two aisles over same year color everything except the transmission it even had the same stripe down the side. what are the odds on that anyway i don't even want to think about it.





Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:04 AM
I work for a Gm dealer and I am personally responsible for every key that gets cut at my dealership.I have access codes and passwords.I can take the last 8 digits from your vin (no i don't need the whole vin) and have a key cut and then look up your address and come and get it.

But the thing is GM keeps a record of every key code they give out.They in turn can trace the code to the log-in who requested it.Therefore the FBI or whoever will very quickly be at MY doorstep questioning why I received a key code on "said date" and the car was stolen shorty after.


Therefore if you were to come to me and asked for a key code or key cut you will have to provide me with the following proof of ownership : must be government issued example-title or registartion.......and I don't except copies of either must be originals.Then you must provide me with a driver's license.Everything must match.I can look up the name and address of the last person who registered the vehicle and if they don't match you don't get a key.I don't cut keys for anyone besides the owner.

This is the way everything should be done.It is also the way I do it to protect myself.If they find out I cut a key and sold it to someone who stole the car I have now become a accessory to a crime.In this case a felony (grand theft auto).



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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:42 AM
thats a good way to save yourself ...

i was also told by a state trooper when i got pulled over that it is illegal to cover your vin with anything.

when i went to get a key cut i had to bring the guy proof of everything
Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:08 PM
Shaved door handles.....................I WIN



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:04 PM
^^^ smash in window and then use key in ignition... if they want it bad enough they will get it



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:10 PM
BlkSunRyder wrote:

KRI Motorsports.com wrote:

In case anyone forgot, that's how GM's semi that housed the prototype cars
(cavalier TURBO & sunfire S/C) got jacked. They had a key for the semi cut & stole it all.


Did they ever find them cars or no?


as far as I know they found one of them, but the other one has never surfaced




Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:14 AM
The state trooper was right...in Ontario it's a ticket as well...if memory serves me right, it's 90.00 plus 20.00 surcharge so $110.00 for covering up your VIN number...i'll have to check my Highway Traffic Act.




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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:23 AM
A friend of mine works at a Toyota dealership and one of the other counter guys in the parts dept. cut keys for a repo man on a car just from the Vin. Funny thing is the guy at the counter was cutting keys to his own car. The repo guy told him you'll find this funny come out side. He did and watched him take his car away.


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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:16 AM
its a j-body for christ sake...how could you not be able to afford a payment on one..?


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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:48 PM
when i got a key cut i needed my registration and my licence.



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:18 PM
The dealership I used to work at, unknowing was cutting keys for a small group of car thieves that were stealing brand new cars off another dealerships lot. (Was one of the fist cases of this happening, so the story goes, and hence the new policies by GM) It also turned out to be the way the FBI started closing in on them. Even though they knew the FBI was closing in on them, they kept stealing cars from the same lots (this time just smashing the windows, and breaking into the lock 'key' box hung on the windows) The dealership they were stealing from, even went as far as keeping all 'on lot' cars on empty...... but these thieves would bring thier own gas. lol.

GM's proto-type GM S/C Sunfire was found........... the orange Turbo Sport (or what ever it was) was never found.......... as far as we know.




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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Monday, March 21, 2005 7:33 AM
haystacks wrote:

A friend of mine works at a Toyota dealership and one of the other counter guys in the parts dept. cut keys for a repo man on a car just from the Vin. Funny thing is the guy at the counter was cutting keys to his own car. The repo guy told him you'll find this funny come out side. He did and watched him take his car away.

Heard a similar story on a local morning radio show.







Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:51 PM
You havre a good point as far as having to show proof of ownership. But keep one thing in mind, chop shops have "more than" doubled in the last 3 years. Statics show that within the next 2 years, used, as well as new, vehicles will have stolen parts, especially small dealerships but not to exclude large dealerships. In August of last year, there was a major bust of a repectable dealership that sold new vehicles with stolen parts. The sting was set up and just within a 2 months time frame. They had collected enough proof from their surveillance and agent that worked the inside to move in. If not mistaken it was in NC. They carried Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, BMW, etc. There was approximately 38 vehicles confiscated after the bust. That goes to show you nothing is "ever" safeguarded. Vin # or not, they' will "always" be a way to beat you.


The only thing I can say is, WOW. You guys are really into this. I just joined and now I'm sorry I did. So what if the guy wants to sell "his" car. Can't you just leave it at that? I checked out the car he listed and I saw nothing that suggested he did it himself. God forbid me to purchase a car from someone everyone seems to know and put it up for sale. I really don't get it. The obsenities thrown at this guy is very disrespectable, no matter what the case may be. I think he has every right to counterpost his comments. What is it with this money deal? 90% of these postings referred to him as using his parents money. I don't know this guy but I'd get all the facts before I'd throw accusations I wasn't sure of. The name calling is a disgrace to this site. Leave the guy alone and let him do his thing. Attacking this guy the way you have, I'd post my comments also, as everyone on here would probably do. I noticed that he's from WV, east coast, and most of you live many states away. Do you actually know him well enough to literally threaten him as putting your height & weight on your post. Needless to say, size is not an issue. I had no idea that this is what the forum was all about.
Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Wednesday, March 23, 2005 1:24 PM
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You guys are really into this. I just joined and now I'm sorry I did. So what if the guy wants to sell "his" car. Can't you just leave it at that? I checked out the car he listed and I saw nothing that suggested he did it himself. God forbid me to purchase a car from someone everyone seems to know and put it up for sale. I really don't get it. The obsenities thrown at this guy is very disrespectable, no matter what the case may be. I think he has every right to counterpost his comments. What is it with this money deal? 90% of these postings referred to him as using his parents money. I don't know this guy but I'd get all the facts before I'd throw accusations I wasn't sure of. The name calling is a disgrace to this site. Leave the guy alone and let him do his thing. Attacking this guy the way you have, I'd post my comments also, as everyone on here would probably do. I noticed that he's from WV, east coast, and most of you live many states away. Do you actually know him well enough to literally threaten him as putting your height & weight on your post. Needless to say, size is not an issue. I had no idea that this is what the forum was all about.


I just re-read this entire thread and I didn't find anybody talking trash to anybody about selling or buying anything.... ...





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Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:51 PM
i know it for a fact cuz the dumbass dealer lost my keys

so they had to cut a new one

soo there is another set of keys roaming about for my car



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Wednesday, March 23, 2005 7:35 PM
ranlee25 = ranlee johnson = randell price = chad price....


so thats where that bizarre comment from ranlee25 came from




Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:37 AM
Tribals wrote:

I'm glad I have laser cut keys now!



Those things are expensive, too!




Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:37 PM
STLWACO wrote:

Tribals wrote:

I'm glad I have laser cut keys now!



Those things are expensive, too!
Yeah they are pricey! Hopefully we won't ever lose them. Our keys have some sort of chip inside as well!




Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Friday, March 25, 2005 4:00 PM
Cheesecake wrote:

thats a good way to save yourself ...

i was also told by a state trooper when i got pulled over that it is illegal to cover your vin with anything.

when i went to get a key cut i had to bring the guy proof of everything


Yeah, I heard that too. Im almost positive I heard in the state of IL, your car can legally be towed for not having the vinnumber viewable form outside the vehicle. Mines blocked though, a reciept fell in there, and i never got it out. If a cop pulls me over, and wants to se the vin, he can check the inside of my door.




Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:20 AM
just move the plate




Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:35 AM
KRI Motorsports.com wrote:

In case anyone forgot, that's how GM's semi that housed the prototype cars
(cavalier TURBO & sunfire S/C) got jacked. They had a key for the semi cut & stole it all.


ding ding ding we have a winner. couple really expensive j's got stolen

sappyL61 wrote:

sappyL61
just move the plate


very illegal. also impossible without removing your windshield.



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:21 AM
Darkstars wrote:

Crash wrote:

with a VW the key has to be ordered....you cannot cut a key by vin...you can only copy key to key or order it from mexico



I didn't say you could cut the key with the vin, i said you need the vin and no it doesn't have to come form mexico (I'm a VW tech I know what I'm talking about) customer brings there car in we give thee vin number to parts, parts orders a cut thats cut at the regional parts wearhouse and ships it to us, and even once you get the key you cannot use it, you have to program the imobilzer to accept that specific key which can only be done by using the VW scan tool to get the imobilzre number and the vin, you have to go into VW's computer system (everythign password protected) and look up an enabling pin that is valid for 24 hours only and that specific vehicle only, then you can go in with a VW scan tool unlock the dash panel panel insert, delete te learned values, and reprogrma it to the key, but you need every key for the car present at teh time, you have to reprogram all of them





I agree with everything except the fact that you cannot cut it at your dealership. At our dealership, we have the machine to cut it so we can do it same day. We just need all the keys (like you said) or the ones not present at the time of the reprogramming will only unlock the doors, they will not start the car. This applies to VW, Audi, and Porsche.



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:06 AM
Maybe its jmust a midwest thing then because both the VW's I wlkred at don't cut there own, the keys from the regional wearhouse in wisconsin or something like that



Re: vin# + bad dealership = stolen car
Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:57 PM
I don't know, maybe. All I know is that we can cut a key and have it programmed for the customer in about an hour.



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