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dumb question to prove a point
Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:09 PM
what would you consider a Z24...my brother thinks its a family car and i tell him its pretty much a sports car. im just tryin to settle a dispute im gettin a kick outa. he thinks his 05 supercharged monte carlo is gods gift. i tell him its an old guys car just to piss him off. so help me here. Z24 cavy sports car or no?

Re: dumb question to prove a point
Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:13 PM
it's an economy car. that's it. it's technically a sport compact, and is considered by most insurance companies as a sports car. it's by no means a family car. a cavalier sedan would be more likely to be a family car, but even that's a stretch.

as far as an 05 s/c monte, that's not an old guy's car either.




Re: dumb question to prove a point
Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:19 PM
sports car? no
family car? unless your family consists of two, then no
sporty? yeah, i guess you could say that


supercharged monte = grand touring car (powerful, fast, comfortable, handles like poop )







Re: dumb question to prove a point
Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:30 PM
Sports car? No!
It's the "sport" version of an economy car.
Actually many people consider this the the true definition of a sports car
Quote:

A sports car is a car designed for sporting performance. While opinions differ as to the exact definition, most sports cars have two seats and two doors, and are designed to excel at a combination of acceleration, top speed, braking, and maneuverability. Great emphasis is often placed on handling—the ability of the car to remain in the control of the driver under challenging condition such as when the car's tires begin to lose their grip on corners.

That was from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. You can check them out for the full definition.



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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 6:49 AM
z24=sport version of an economy car

a sports car?? ehhh a poor mans sports car, but in all honestly it isnt that sporty stock



Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 7:05 AM
AmazingJay wrote:

Sports car? No!
It's the "sport" version of an economy car.
Actually many people consider this the the true definition of a sports car
Quote:

A sports car is a car designed for sporting performance. While opinions differ as to the exact definition, most sports cars have two seats and two doors, and are designed to excel at a combination of acceleration, top speed, braking, and maneuverability. Great emphasis is often placed on handling—the ability of the car to remain in the control of the driver under challenging condition such as when the car's tires begin to lose their grip on corners.

That was from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. You can check them out for the full definition.



In other words, a 350Z.




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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 7:12 AM
Yeah, there's no way I'd consider any j-body as a sports car.

It's a sport compact at best, since that's a relatively loose term. It applies more directly to cars like the Celica or RSX, but can loosely apply to an economy coupe as well.

At the very leasts, it's a sporty economy car as people have already mentioned.





Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 7:59 AM
Ummm... simple answer. No.




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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 8:20 AM
Sports car? Not really.

I agree the monte is an old mans car though...I wouldnt buy one, unless I was in a midlife crisis ... but then I'd buy a porche... so ? who knows..

Everyone has their own taste.

90% of us didnt buy our cars to mod. we bought it, and saw some cool stuff for it, and decided to personalize it.... then got addicted.


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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 8:39 AM
STYLEZ24 wrote:

Sports car? Not really.

I agree the monte is an old mans car though...I wouldnt buy one, unless I was in a midlife crisis ... but then I'd buy a porche... so ? who knows..

Everyone has their own taste.

90% of us didnt buy our cars to mod. we bought it, and saw some cool stuff for it, and decided to personalize it.... then got addicted.


Bit of a price difference between the MC and a Porsche. Also, you can't use the Porsche as a family car.

And don't let Craig hear you talkin' like that...





Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 8:46 AM
My mom used to drive a Monte Carlo... nice family car

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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 10:12 AM
z24 is a sporty econobox



Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 10:37 AM
Or as Performance Auto and Sound Magazine called my car... Grocery Getter...




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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 12:00 PM
Monte Carlo will never be a sports car, it has always been a butt ugly car, it is a but ugly car, and it WILL continue to be a butt ugly car. I think "sports car" should have the term "good lines" written somewhere into the definition, at least a cavalier has that, but stock it doesn't have the other things needed to be defined as a sports car, like power and handling.
I look at the Monte Carlo and I realize there is still plenty of insanity left in GM when they are producing this ugly P.O.C. and not the firebird or trans-am!



Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 12:03 PM


A sporty economy car like everyone else said, no where near the same class as a sports car.



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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Friday, April 15, 2005 8:46 PM
according to my insurance company it is a sports car. $360/month for full coverage and me w/o any wrecks or tickets? hell you would think i had a porsche!



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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:01 AM
STYLEZ24 wrote:

90% of us didnt buy our cars to mod. we bought it, and saw some cool stuff for it, and decided to personalize it.... then got addicted.


that hits the nail on the head for me... lol.




Re: dumb question to prove a point
Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:38 AM
Tabasco Racing wrote:

according to my insurance company it is a sports car. $360/month for full coverage and me w/o any wrecks or tickets? hell you would think i had a porsche!


You need to switch insurance companies.... lol... that would be a nice car payment!

Rob




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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:13 PM
Tabasco Racing wrote:

according to my insurance company it is a sports car. $360/month for full coverage and me w/o any wrecks or tickets? hell you would think i had a porsche!


I'm 19 with no tickets or wrecks, paying $335/month for insurance on my 2000 z24 in Ontario.. i thought mine was bad.
Re: dumb question to prove a point
Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:59 AM
I pay $290 a month for my 2000 Z24. Same ins class as a Camaro SS or Mustang GT

Anyways, Z24 = Top Model Economy Car

Take A stock Cavalier... Give it power everything with all options, and put a bigger motor in it. = Top Model Economy Car. I would roughly call it a Sport Compact.




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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:49 PM
STYLEZ24 wrote:

.90% of us didnt buy our cars to mod. we bought it, and saw some cool stuff for it, and decided to personalize it.... then got addicted.


Exactly, I know that was the reason with me! LOL

Our cars are no where NEAR a sports car as stated before.

Sports cars: Corvette, GTO, 350Z ect....

MonteCarlo is a sports sedan nowhere near a sports car closer than our J's but its cushy has some power, my mom had one (an SS) didn't really like it, the car was nice leather, heated seats every little option but she traded it for her GTO




Re: dumb question to prove a point
Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
ThE03FiRe wrote:

my mom had one (an SS) didn't really like it, the car was nice leather, heated seats every little option but she traded it for her GTO


Your mom drives a Goat? Sweet!

Rob




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Re: dumb question to prove a point
Monday, April 18, 2005 12:27 PM
ThE03FiRe wrote:

MonteCarlo is a sports sedan nowhere near a sports car closer


Monte Carlo isn't a sedan.





Re: dumb question to prove a point
Monday, April 18, 2005 12:30 PM
Ian Lacey wrote:

Or as Performance Auto and Sound Magazine called my car... Grocery Getter...


Ahem, It was Chris Lacey's Grocery Getter.



Re: dumb question to prove a point
Monday, April 18, 2005 6:44 PM
ROBZ IL CAV wrote:

ThE03FiRe wrote:

my mom had one (an SS) didn't really like it, the car was nice leather, heated seats every little option but she traded it for her GTO


Your mom drives a Goat? Sweet!

Rob


Yea, an 05 dark blue met., auto, its awesome and I love driving it....

Wild Weasel wrote:

ThE03FiRe wrote:

MonteCarlo is a sports sedan nowhere near a sports car closer


Monte Carlo isn't a sedan.


Ok edit, semi sports coupe BUT ins companys rate it as a sports sedan (even though its a 2-door)



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