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Re: WOW check it out
Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:52 PM
jackalope wrote:

Mine look like the ones on the left. Not just mirrors but other conectors as well. Does this mean I have a rare car?
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No, it means you don't have an 04 Cavalier as you've listed in your profile. That, or you haven't got a clue what GM uses in their cars, which means you're a crappy guy to have on the parts desk.

What kind of car we talking about? Because I haven't seen connectors like the ones on the left used in domestics since the 80's.

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Look guys I stated my opinion on the price of the car.


I know. You keep going on, and on, and on, and on about that. I don't care about that. I'm not able to afford a third car, so there's no point in my bidding on it.

I'm pissed at how you treat me, a somewhat well respected member of the JBO community, and in any case, certainly more respected than you..

I (and others) tell you the mirrors were made in Japan, and you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, with some tongue-in-cheek insults thrown in for good measure.

I provide you with protographic evidence that the mirrors that I own, which were built for the Toyota Cavalier, were in fact MADE IN JAPAN, and all you do is avoid the issue over and over again.

You work in a parts department. Order yourself ONE MIRROR and prove me wrong, bitch.

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I get enough s--t at work I don't need it here too.


So leave. I sure as hell won't miss you.






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Re: WOW check it out
Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:00 PM
jackalope wrote:

I call you guys kids because your acting like children.


you're acting that way yourself.

i don't know @!#$ about all this toyo crap and don't try to act like i do, but from reading this thread, i'd HAVE to believe Lenko and the others. they have shown proof to there side and you have shown nothing. you just typed in a bunch of crap. i could have down the same thing. until you have actual proof that you can show us on the JBO please STFU! thank you!




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Re: WOW check it out
Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:32 PM
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jackalope wrote:

Speedy I missed your post so I'll Try to answer it in the simplest terms so someone such as yourself may be able to grasp what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with "being a lazy parts person" It has to do with what G.M. will and will not ship. If you have never heard of whats called a spac 88 case then let me brake it down for you. If you order a part for your car and G.M. is either in short supply or ITS FOR AN EXPORT ONLY CAR
then it gets kicked back and not sent. Your next step if you want the parts is YOU NEED A VIN NUMBER. Once you provide G.M. with a vin number they have to process the order by whatever means they have to. If this means BRINGING THEM BACK FROM
JAPAN then thats what they will do. Now untill you work in the parts department for at least as long as I have please do not try to tell me G.M. procedures all your doing is making yourself look bad cause you have absolutly no idea what in the world your talking about. If in all your infinet wisdom you see fit to actualy call a dealership and ask what intales on ordering these type parts remember its called a SPAC 88 CASE.


As I said before, I worked in a Dealership, as a TECHNICIAN for a few years, dealt with PARTS everyday....... and since I've left, I still order parts ALL the time......... Never needed a Vin for any of the tail lights I've ordered (export only) or the Interior trim pieces for the mirrors (also Export only)........ I guess I'm just dealing with some smart parts guys.

I guess you just havn't worked in the Parts Department long enough........

NfamousZ24 wrote:

See I think you are the one that can't grasp reality. On top of that you are treating and calling us Kids. Have you once looked at the Profiles of the 3 that is debating you on this issue.

John Lenko
Joined: Thursday, January 3, 2002
Birthday: February 29, 1976


Sndsgood (Jason)
Joined: Before they even kept that kind of records
Birthday: August 7, 1973


NfamousZ24
Joined: Monday, March 18, 2002
Birthday: December 18, 1979

And then we have you
jackalope
Joined: Thursday, June 23, 2005


SpeedRacer (Brian)
Joined: Before they kept that kind of record (late 99)
Birthday: June 15, 1979

Also been in the Auto Industry since '97.

While I was looking in your registry.......... I found a few "interesting" things........

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ECU RE-FLASH(NO LIMITER AND 20 MORE HP)
interesting
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CUSTOM HEADLIGHTS WITH PIAA BULBS (ALSO FROM JAPAN CAN'T GET THESE HERE)
Since you have an '04...... and they stopped making the Toyota Cavalier before the new make-over....... what lights did you get "FROM JAPAN"? and since you say "ALL TOYOTA PARTS ARE FROM MI" why did these come from Japan? Why didn't you get them from MI? Or am I reading that wrong, and you got some special PIAA bulbs from Japan? Or some different head lights all together?

And, while were still on this....... What is the Geo/Chevy Prism? I know all the parts I've ordered for them came from a Toyota Dealership........ although I went to my Chevy parts counter, and ordered the parts........ Is that 100% Chevy too? Because if we go along with your train of thought, it must be...... since all those parts are probably sitting in a GM warehouse some where....... and the wiring in them, matches the wiring that comes with the Toyota Mirrors....... so watch what your answer is....... cause if you say "Its a Toyota" then you just proved yourself wrong........ but if you say "Its a Chevy" then your just a complete IDIOT.



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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:37 AM
Cool you guys proved my point thanks. Lenko I was willing to conceed that some were built here and some were built there that way we could stop this and both act like adults but it would seem this is to much for you to do. I stand by my statement that they could have been made both places since you do have ones that say made in Japan
but you in all your retail wisdom have yet to explain why they have any of these here if they were never meant to be in this country.

Speedy I said my bulbs were from Japan There orenge colored but if you can find them
here let me know where so I wont have to wait almost a month to get them next time.
My reflash I had done took away my drls top speed limiter and I was told by the shop that did it I could expect a gain of around 20 hp. I have never had one of these little cars before I have only had the older V-8 big block cars. You know the ones you wish you had. My last car was a '72 firebird with a custom built 427 Pontiac big block that
was dynoed by Hot Rod mag on both there power tours to be putting to the ground at the wheels over 550 hp and over 600 lb ft of torque. So when the shop did my ECU
and seeing how I had just joined here I had no idea what gains I actualy had I was going off what I was told So yes in that respect I am probly wrong.
You too have proven my point for me .

It would appear that you and Mr.Lenko are a couple of little children who thinks its cool to come on line and pick on people. Sorry there big guys but its not happening I do not care what either one of you children say I know this car is not worth it I know where the parts come from ( here and there ) And I also know that I will no longer be answering any of your posts other then to pick them apart piece by little piece and make you look the fools that you are. You better always have your facts 100% and your spelling 100% and know 100% what your talking about cause if not I will call you throw facts in your
faces not watch as people see what truely big asses you are.

Till next time girls bye.


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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:52 AM
Nfamous it would appear I missed your post so please include your self in my above post.

You came on here talking about "quality" N and I have proven your build quality sucks
you apear to be able to change your arguement mid-stream. Sorry but you were the one that mentioned the great quality of these cars being worth it. I told you to read some reviews on your fine autos you were praising for there quality. And suddenly you stopped..... why ? what happened to you build the best quality cars in the world? Now your wanting to jump on there band wagon? Don't think so. Your quality blows just
look at almost any consumer report done. You may have 1 or even 2 cars and sometimes 3 or 4 but the rest are junk and you know it. If you want to buy into all the little pep-talk crap you guys hear about were #1 fine. But last year a little import from Korea kicked the crap out of your awesome quality. Why don't you guys in the plants actualy do the job right the first time that way I don't have to try to defend your garbage when it shows up at dealership for a list of re-calls. Since I've worked at my current dealer I have seen at least 20 cars and trucks have to be bought back by us because of the lemon law and your woderful building of these things. Tell ya what there tough guy I'll shut up about your suck ass quality as soon as youe quality stops sucking ass.



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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:28 AM
I had a nice conversation with someone who I respect the opinion of and I would like to take back what I said about watching you guys I won't be. John I told you what I know to be true you added your photos and I agreed with you on them I only asked that couldn't it be posible for them to have been made here as well? I threw in the insults because well you guys started it. I never named called you guys first. And yes that does make me no better then you so thats why I appoligized and tried to make nice but it would seem you have no intension to. I was the bigger man to appoligize and try to be nice but since all three of you slapped my hand away and continued to bash me even after I agreed with you then you have shown your true colors not only to me but all others on the org. If you can't acept an apology from someone who is making a sinser attempt at starting over then I feel sorry for you. If you would like to then I still make the same offer to you.

And John why would I want to leave I've made such great friends here. I only wish you
guys could be among them.



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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:39 AM
how is it that lenko proved he was right about them being made in japan (he's shown actual proof) and yet now youve changed your answer and said that some were made here and some where made there. i think for you to have any ounce of credit whatsoever, you need to prove that the toyoto mirrors were made in the u.s. seems to me the only way you can be even half right. and saying you work at the parts counter isnt proof.

youve been just as childish as everyone else on this post, just because lenko chooses to use the word bitch, and you choose to supply inuendo's and snide remarks makes you just as much a child as the rest of us. the he called me a name first doesnt even fly in kindegarten. apologizing in one post and then instantly making another post in wich you basically inferred someone to be a jackass doesnt make u a bigger man, you were proven wrong, you have no proof that they were made here so just cut your losses and end this charade that u know more then some people here on this subject.


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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:59 AM
Sure whatever.



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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:26 AM
jackalope wrote:

I stand by my statement that they could have been made both places since you do have ones that say made in Japan
but you in all your retail wisdom have yet to explain why they have any of these here if they were never meant to be in this country.


Why should *I* have to prove that the rest of them sitting in that warehouse came from japan or the USA? Why should *I* have to explain it?

YOU are the GM employee. Get off your fat parts-guy ass and do some research for once. Seriously, order in a mirror... when you see that we're all right, and you're just stubborn, you can send it back. Hell, put the thing in my name and tell the parts manager the customer didn't come pick it up.

For all I know... when the Toyota Cavalier was stopped in 2000, the remaining stock was shipped to the Lansing warehouse. I don't work for GM, but YOU DO so YOU explain how your company works, because I sure as hell don't understand it.

FYI, the mirrors that I posted pictures of came from... drum roll please... THE LANSING MICHIGAN WAREHOUSE!! In a box!! With JAPANESE WRITING on the side of it... with some GM stickers over top. Right now, I really wish I'd saved those boxes but I'm not as much of a pack rat as I used to be.

Now YOU explain that, Mr. E-thug.

I guess I got the LAST SET of Japanese ones, right? That SOMEHOW ended up there. A freak of nature.. Oh, no!! Maybe it was the parts place that stamped MADE IN JAPAN on them... but they were REALLY made in the USA... it was all a trick to complete the Japan illusion. Hmm.. maybe Japan doesn't really exist!! I've never been there... Yeah, sure...


Get off your high horse. You ain't that special.




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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:46 AM
Sndsgood I would love nothing better believe me! However my problem is that these
parts are listed tru G.M. as being non-returnable. In other words we can't ship them back to Lansing once they come in were stuck with them. And they are too expensive to
justify an on-line arguement to my boss as to the reason I needed them. Thats problem #1. problem#2 is the site us dealers go to "Dealerworld" is a secure web site
so I can't link you to it because it will dump you out without the proper customer number and customer code. Now with me knowing there are some of these in Lansing Mi. and
seeing how the car was never intended to be sold in this country and that these cars were only ment to be built here and shipped overseas were later odviously they did
install the mirrors as well. Then why are there any of these located in Lansing? If you do not believe me great. Go to a dealership or call one up I listed the part numbers and ask them if there are indeed any in Lansing. If you do this then you will see that yes they are indeed in stock right now in Mi. which is what i've been trying to tell you.
And yes I saw the pictures thats why I asked if you guys knew sometimes G.M. changes vendors during a cars build and that seeing these means in all likely hood thats what has happened. As for the Israely headlights these were truly never made in this counrty from what I can find out. They are made over there thats why Street Line
is the only way to get them. If they were ever made here then it would be simple to get them just like the JDM stuff you guys are refering to. Call a dealership that you know doesn't have a "lazy parts guy" and have him check on those numbers and then let me know what he/she says. Then have them ask if i think her name is Brenda is there have
him/her ask her to go read you whats printed on the box like I did. When she comes back and says MADE IN U.S.A. I would love to hear your theroys as to how this is possible since you know differently about every single piece and part that went into building this car.

Now once you do this come back here and post your findings. Sndsgood i've already cut my looses when I appoligized. When are you guys going to cut yours?




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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:18 PM
jackalope wrote:

Cool you guys proved my point thanks. Lenko I was willing to conceed that some were built here and some were built there that way we could stop this and both act like adults but it would seem this is to much for you to do. I stand by my statement that they could have been made both places since you do have ones that say made in Japan
but you in all your retail wisdom have yet to explain why they have any of these here if they were never meant to be in this country.


Easy...... we've been buying any Toyota Cavalier part we can from them....... and GM will do anything to make money, so GM had some shipped over (would also explain why there are so few of them in MI). I'm sure that, seeing how the last Toyota Cav was built for the '00 model year, that there are plenty of these mirrors in Japan left.

jackalope wrote:

Speedy I said my bulbs were from Japan There orenge colored but if you can find them here let me know where so I wont have to wait almost a month to get them next time.
My reflash I had done took away my drls top speed limiter and I was told by the shop that did it I could expect a gain of around 20 hp. I have never had one of these little cars before I have only had the older V-8 big block cars. You know the ones you wish you had. My last car was a '72 firebird with a custom built 427 Pontiac big block that
was dynoed by Hot Rod mag on both there power tours to be putting to the ground at the wheels over 550 hp and over 600 lb ft of torque. So when the shop did my ECU
and seeing how I had just joined here I had no idea what gains I actualy had I was going off what I was told So yes in that respect I am probly wrong.
You too have proven my point for me .


Thats just interesting because tuning software for the J-bodies is hard to come by. Its weird that just some V8 shop would have it.
As for you having the "older V-8 big block cars. You know the ones you wish you had."...... Yea, my dad would apreaciate the '72 firebird, he's got a thing for them. I had a '78 Z28, with a built SB 400 in it for awhile. My turbo cav would have kicked its arse, and got better gas milage doing it.

As for proving your point........ your point(s) are MUTE. I could care less for your points. We've all been here long enough, everyone knows our names, everyone knows what to expect from us. We've done our research, we've actually ordered and recieved these parts, not just looked at a computer screen and assumed we knew everything about them.
jackalope wrote:

It would appear that you and Mr.Lenko are a couple of little children who thinks its cool to come on line and pick on people. Sorry there big guys but its not happening I do not care what either one of you children say I know this car is not worth it I know where the parts come from ( here and there ) And I also know that I will no longer be answering any of your posts other then to pick them apart piece by little piece and make you look the fools that you are. You better always have your facts 100% and your spelling 100% and know 100% what your talking about cause if not I will call you throw facts in your
faces not watch as people see what truely big asses you are.

Till next time girls bye.


You keep talking, but you still can't admit we're right. You half assed it, saying the parts where made "here and there" but thats because you can't addmit you where wrong. You have yet to pick apart any of our posts, but we've made kibble out of yours.

As for people seeing what truely big asses we are........ if thats what they think, so be it. I'm sure more then enough think the same about you.

jackalope wrote:

the site us dealers go to "Dealerworld" is a secure web site
so I can't link you to it because it will dump you out without the proper customer number and customer code. Now with me knowing there are some of these in Lansing Mi. and
seeing how the car was never intended to be sold in this country and that these cars were only ment to be built here and shipped overseas were later odviously they did
install the mirrors as well. Then why are there any of these located in Lansing? If you do not believe me great.


Its a "Dealer Number and Dealer code" that you need, not customer.


jackalope wrote:

As for the Israely headlights these were truly never made in this counrty from what I can find out. They are made over there thats why Street Line
is the only way to get them. If they were ever made here then it would be simple to get them just like the JDM stuff you guys are refering to. Call a dealership that you know doesn't have a "lazy parts guy" and have him check on those numbers and then let me know what he/she says. Then have them ask if i think her name is Brenda is there have
him/her ask her to go read you whats printed on the box like I did. When she comes back and says MADE IN U.S.A. I would love to hear your theroys as to how this is possible since you know differently about every single piece and part that went into building this car.


Easy, since the car is still sold over there, the surplus parts have not been shipped back to MI for storage. Give it another year or so.







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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:19 PM
To pick you apart in order.
G.M. does not like selling export parts thats why the vin is needed and it takes as long as it does to get the stuff.

Half assed it? Ok I'll put this a way maybe you can understand. Do you remember when you were a little kid the Hot Wheels cars you had? The first ones were made in USA. After the price hit almost $2.00 a car they moved to Mexico price dropped. Then it started up again almost $2.00 and then it dropped they moved to Japan. Prices again start to climb get too high and boom they drop again this time China was home. Still they go up so they move to Malaisa where they are now. Does this mean my made in the USA cars dont exist? This is what I was getting at in my post. I didn't half ass
anything I actualy agreed with you that it would apear not all were made here. But from
what I was told by G.M. people at the warehouse is that these that we have in this counrty in our warehouse curently say made in USA on the box.

When you call in press the 1 button the next thing the recording says is please enter your customer code. 1-800-433-6962 push button #1 since it applys what does it say?
I'll be waiting for that appoligy from you.

Parts would not be shipped back here as this would make no sence seeing how the car isn't in this country. Please try again bad theroy.

So theres some kibble for you to enjoy hope it hits the spot.



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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:35 PM
I'm sorry let me elaboate on why its a bad theory. Every month G.M. does an audit of what parts we havs in stock. What parts they absolutly need they BUY back from us for 10% over our cost. Doesn't sound like much right well stay with me here. Try having to
buy back all those parts from all thse dealerships out there. Then throw in the shipping again which G.M. has to pay for and its no longer cost efective. Its actualy cheeper to just wright them off. Thats right G.M. will throw away the parts before they pay to ship
them back. Now keeping in mind G.M. will throw away parts from a dealer in the U.S.
or from a parts plant before they have to pay to ship them back then how or why on earth do you think they'll ship these parts back here from other countries on the other side of the world??? Last month G.M. PAID my dealership over $50,000.00 to throw away perfecttly good parts, new parts, still in the box parts.

Thats one thing G.M. does the other is sell off its intire stock of old parts to a company
named V.P.I. and these guys in turn sell them off till there all gone.

This is how G.M. treats parts. They do not care at all what it is or what its for they will pitch it in a heartbeat. Now if by chance you can actualy get anyone at G.M. to give you the time of day then ask them to pull these parts off the shelf and read the label to you
It took me a week to even get a person to acknowledge that these parts are even here
and then another to get them to check what was on the boxes ( I checked months ago when I was considering this mod. and I wanted to know what I needed that we didn't have in stock )

Make the calls I gave you one number already. Then get back to me as to what they tell you.



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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:42 PM
I'm sorry guys the correct number that i meant to give out is 1-800-433-6961. Not 62
I'm sorry my mistake. Anyway try it and see what the message says.




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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:25 PM
hi i like toyota stuff. and the trd car is cool.






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Re: WOW check it out
Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:57 PM
Nice! I remember they were selling that car through the website for awhile...




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Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:35 AM
jackalope wrote:


the site us dealers go to "Dealerworld" is a secure web site

jackalope wrote:


When you call in press the 1 button the next thing the recording says is please enter your customer code. 1-800-433-6962 push button #1 since it applys what does it say?
I'll be waiting for that appoligy from you.


Which is it? First you say its the Web site, then you say its a phone number........

Yes, I was wrong....... on this end (public access) its asks for : User name and password......... but I could swear the last time I used [URL=www.gmdealerworld.com]GM Dealerworld[/URL] at the dealership, it asked for Dealer code and password.

jackalope wrote:

I'm sorry let me elaboate on why its a bad theory. Every month G.M. does an audit of what parts we havs in stock. What parts they absolutly need they BUY back from us for 10% over our cost. Doesn't sound like much right well stay with me here. Try having to buy back all those parts from all thse dealerships out there. Then throw in the shipping again which G.M. has to pay for and its no longer cost efective. Its actualy cheeper to just wright them off. Thats right G.M. will throw away the parts before they pay to ship them back. Now keeping in mind G.M. will throw away parts from a dealer in the U.S. or from a parts plant before they have to pay to ship them back then how or why on earth do you think they'll ship these parts back here from other countries on the other side of the world??? Last month G.M. PAID my dealership over $50,000.00 to throw away perfecttly good parts, new parts, still in the box parts.


So yes, when GM needs parts you have, they will buy them back. The Dealership that has them, gets paid 10%..... just like when you buy parts you need from another GM dealership....... you pay that dealership 10% over cost.

Now you say its cheaper to just write them off......... but in that case, it means GM DOESNT NEED THEM, GM pays you to distroy them. Ok, also true.

That is 2 seperate instances........ One part GM NEEDS (shortage of, and you have a surplus of them) they buy them from you and pay you to ship them to them. Another part is out dated (replaced by updated part possibly) instead of buying them, and paying for the shipping back to them, for them to throw away, they pay you to throw them away.

Now the first is an argument in my favor. Since we've been buying all these Toyota parts, it pays for GM to have them shipped back, for us to buy. As I stated before, they did this with the 96-99 Tail lights. I personally bought the last of them back in '01/'02........ the 2 lenses they ran out of had to come from Japan to fill my order. Now all of a sudden there are more in MI. Where did they come from? The plant that made them, stopped production before I bought the last of them, and GM stopped producing the Toyota line. Now, since Lenko, and a few others have been buying the Mirrors through GM, it only makes sense that GM would replenish the stock on them. Also explains why Lenko's mirrors (which came from MI) are stamped MADE IN JAPAN........ if we where to go by your theory, his mirrors would still be in JAPAN, and would have never been shipped to MI, for him to buy. He would have gotten those fictional "MADE IN THE USA" Toyota Mirrors. (since the Toyota Cav was never a US item, there would be no need for them to have MADE IN JAPAN mirrors...... right?) And what would the odds be that IF there happened to be BOTH Japanies and USA mirrors at MI, that only the Japanies ones would have been sold, and the USA ones left?

So far, you've still struck out........


Lenko....... you got a part number for the Relay pack for those mirrors?



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Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 3:49 AM
MaximumBoost.net wrote:

Nice! I remember they were selling that car through the website for awhile...


Frank I don't understand what your trying to say here the vehicle is still on the site if you look.


like I said before this is a COLLECTORS VEHICLE!!!

How many TRD Toyota Cavaliers are here in the USA? 1!!!

How many of these where made? 50!!

How many are still around in this kind of shape?? WHO KNOWS!!







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Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 3:57 AM
Its both. G.M. has a web page and a phone number. I gave you the number to see what the recording says. I gave you the wrong number first as I already said try the other number and see what the recording says after you press #1, just to re-cap that would be1-800-433-6961. And I can't link you to a secure web site sorry. And I'm not about to give out our codes.

I've told you how to go about finding out what these say on them you were supposed to make phone calls since you want proof. But it would apear you are not concerned about proof at all only that I kiss your ass for being the all knowing guys you think you are. Sorry but it ain't gonna happen.

I even tryed to explain it as easily as possible useing Hot Wheels cars as an example
that may have been easier to follow. But it would seem it wasn't.

I've explained how they do there shipping. If you can't grasp it now then I guess you just never will. Ejoy your $25,000.00 Cavalier. But at the end of the day when you park it in your garage its still just a cavalier.






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Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:15 AM
jackalope wrote:

I've explained how they do there shipping. If you can't grasp it now then I guess you just never will. Ejoy your $25,000.00 Cavalier. But at the end of the day when you park it in your garage its still just a cavalier.





But I think your still missing the point on this, as you can see its Right Hand Drive, TRD limited Edition, and a Toyota Cavalier (only 1 like this in the USA)

So at the end of the day in my garage I know I have something NO ONE HAS HERE IN THE STATES BOTTOM LINE! But I also under stand what your saying but see some of us would want this then some normal Chevy Cavalier.





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Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:22 AM
One more thing Megatron isn't happy over all this bi*ching! Better look out before he puts the smack down on all of us!







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Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 5:12 AM
Hated I know. I wished anyone that bids luck on getting this car. I understand what
having a rare car is. Realy I do, my first Firebird was a 1980 Turbo Trans-Am. It was built in october of 1979. It was one of 130 built before they started putting in the boost lights on the hood. It was carosel red with red and white interior ( carosel red looks like
the same color the General Lee is I dont know why its called red when its orenge but it is ) Anyway it is an absolute bitch trying to up a rare car. Always has to be the correct parts used, can't be aftermarket cause then its not original anymore, can't change under the hood at all even chrome cause its not original. Trust me it can be a HUGE
pain in the ass. Finialy I was able to find someone who knew what it was so I could unload it for what I paid for it. This taught me a very valuable leson.... Cars are ment
to be driven and enjoyed but if turns into work just to be able to drive it then its not much
fun anymore. If by chance your a colector of rare Cavaliers, Don't know if such a person exists but I'm sure someone somewhere would be, And you can aford it, then
great more power to you. BUT ITS ALOT OF WORK.

Good luck to anyone who bids on this car. Realy I do mean it but I won't be bidding.



Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.



Re: WOW check it out
Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:15 AM






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