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GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash 30,0
Monday, November 21, 2005 7:29 AM
GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash 30,000 Jobs

POSTED: 8:16 am EST November 21, 2005
UPDATED: 10:14 am EST November 21, 2005

DETROIT -- General Motors Corp. will eliminate 30,000 manufacturing jobs and close nine North American assembly, stamping and powertrain plants, including the assembly plant in Oklahoma City, by 2008 as part of an effort to get production in line with demand.

The announcement Monday by Rick Wagoner, chairman and CEO of the world's largest automaker, represents 5,000 more job cuts than the 25,000 that the automaker had previously indicated it planned to cut.

GM said the other assembly plants that will close are in Lansing, Mich., Spring Hill, Tenn., Doraville, Ga., and Ontario, Canada.

The Oklahoma City plant is to be closed in early 2006, Wagoner said.

An engine facility in Flint, Mich., will close, along with a separate powertrain facility in Ontario and metal centers in Lansing and Pittsburgh.

Wagoner said GM also will close three service and parts operations facilities. They are in Ypsilanti, Mich., and Portland, Ore., and one unidentified site. A shift also will be removed at a plant in Moraine, Ohio.

"The decisions we are announcing today were very difficult to reach because of their impact on our employees and the communities where we live and work," Wagoner told employees. "But these actions are necessary for GM to get its costs in line with our major global competitors. In short, they are an essential part of our plan to return our North American operations to profitability as soon as possible."

GM said the plan is to achieve $7 billion in cost reductions on a running rate basis by the end of 2006 - $1 billion above its previously indicated target.

GM shares rose 77 cents, or 3.2 percent, in premarket trading. Its shares traded below $21 last week at an 18-year low.

Wagoner said last month the automaker would announce plant closures by the end of this year to get its capacity in line with U.S. demand. GM plants currently run at 85 percent of their capacity, lower than North American plants run by its Asian rivals. The plant closings aren't expected to be final until GM's current contract with the United Auto Workers expires in 2007.

GM has been crippled by high labor, pension, health care and materials costs as well as by sagging demand for sport utility vehicles, its longtime cash cows, and by bloated plant capacity. Its market share has been eroded by competition from Asian automakers led by Toyota Motor Corp. GM lost nearly $4 billion in the first nine months of this year.

The automaker could be facing a strike at Delphi Corp., its biggest parts supplier, which filed for bankruptcy protection last month. GM spun off Delphi in 1999 and could be liable for billions in pension costs for Delphi retirees.

GM also is under investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission for accounting errors.

Last week, after the automaker's shares fell to their lowest level in 18 years, Wagoner sent an e-mail to employees saying the company has a turnaround strategy in place and has no plans to file for bankruptcy.







I work at the Moraine Assembly plant and we are to loose a shift. That is about 1,200 jobs and I have over 800 under me and over 400 that could of retired Yesterday. haha

O'well sit and wait.






Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 7:31 AM
O Yeah get ready for GM stocks to go back up. LOL





Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 7:37 AM
Just another example that job security no longer exists. Nothing like being an employee of the largest vehicle manufacturer in the world, but still losing your job. Just in time for the holidays as well. Merry Christmas...


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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 7:45 AM
they shouldn't cut jobs, the UAW won't stand for this!!! lol the crappy thing about the job cuts is that even once they lay people off, reduce the work force, you can't fire someone who's retired and drawing a pention, and GM still ends up paying for the people who aren't working because of the UAW contract. The UAW will run GM into the ground before they're done.


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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 7:57 AM
^^^very true.....we will see how well everything works out for them

at least they finally are realizing the problem and working to fix it



Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 8:02 AM
But But my plant is the only IUE-CWA plant and we get less than what UAW gets.

We are also the most effecient and most profitable SUV plant in North America in the whole auto industry.

But the promblem is that our SUV's are not selling like they used to be.

IUE-CWA > UAW my plant will still keep 2 out of 3 shifts and Oklahoma City our sister plant that is UAW is getting Shut down.

http://iue798.com/





Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 9:12 AM
Xavier Canon wrote:Just another example that job security no longer exists. Nothing like being an employee of the largest vehicle manufacturer in the world, but still losing your job. Just in time for the holidays as well. Merry Christmas...


...everyone...




its either that or GM goes bankrupt and everyone looses jobs/pention, what have you. take your pick 30K people or 100K+ people.



Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 9:17 AM
I saw this early this morning and knodded my head in shame. To think I've been to the Springhill plant (Saturn) twice in 1994 & 1999, one of the best people there. Management was better in that era as well because GM let Saturn be.
Terrible just terrible, this the 80's all over again.



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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 9:25 AM
BTW this is what GM had to say...


GM North America to Undergo Major Capacity Reduction

Next Significant Step in GM's North American Turnaround Plan
9 Assembly, Stamping & Powertrain Facilities, 3 SPO Facilities to Cease Operations
Total Reduction of 30,000 Positions
Total Cost Reduction Running Rate of $7 Billion by End of 2006

General Motors will undergo a wide-ranging restructuring of its manufacturing operations in the United States and Canada as part of its comprehensive four-point plan to return the company to profitability and long-term growth, GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner announced today.

GM's next step in its North American turnaround plan addresses its ongoing capacity utilization, a major component of reducing structural cost. A total of nine assembly, stamping and powertrain facilities and three Service and Parts Operations facilities will cease operations.

The additional actions will reduce GMNA assembly capacity by about 1 million units by the end of 2008, in addition to the previously implemented reduction of 1 million units between 2002 and 2005. Factoring in the additional capacity from GM's new Delta Township facility in Lansing, Mich., slated to begin production next year, the overall net result will be a GMNA assembly capacity of 4.2 million units. While down 30 percent since 2002, this capacity level will still provide GM plenty of flexibility to anticipate and meet market demand, but in a much more cost-effective manner. A total of 30,000 manufacturing positions will be eliminated from 2005 through 2008.

"The decisions we are announcing today were very difficult to reach because of their impact on our employees and the communities where we live and work," Wagoner added. "But these actions are necessary for GM to get its costs in line with our major global competitors. In short, they are an essential part of our plan to return our North American operations to profitability as soon as possible.

"We continue to be equally committed to revenue drivers - introducing compelling new cars and trucks, and executing our revitalized sales and marketing strategy - and we have received ratification of the agreement with the UAW, which will help significantly to address our health-care cost challenges," Wagoner said. "We are making steady and significant progress in implementing the plan to turn around our U.S. business."

The following six assembly plant sites will be affected in the years indicated:

Oklahoma City, Okla., will cease production in early 2006.
Lansing, Mich., Craft Centre will cease production in mid-2006.
Spring Hill, Tenn., Plant/Line No. 1, will cease production at the end of 2006.
Doraville, Ga., will cease production at the end of its current products' lifecycle in 2008.
The third shift will be removed at Oshawa Car Plant No. 1, in Ontario, Canada, in the second half of 2006. Subsequently, Oshawa Car Plant No. 2 will cease production after the current product runs out in 2008.
The third shift will be removed at Moraine, Ohio, during 2006, with timing to be based on market demand.
Capacity-related actions affecting stamping, Service & Parts Operations and powertrain facilities include:

The Lansing, Mich., Metal Center will cease production in 2006.
The Pittsburgh, Pa., Metal Center will cease production in 2007.
The Parts Distribution Center in Portland, Ore., will cease operations in 2006; the Parts Distribution Center in St. Louis, Mo., will cease warehousing activities and will be converted to a collision center facility in 2006; the Parts Processing Center in Ypsilanti, Mich., will cease operations in 2007. One additional Parts Processing Center, to be announced at a later date, will also cease operations in 2007.
The competitiveness of all unitizing (packaging) operations at the Pontiac, Drayton Plains, and Ypsilanti Processing Centers in Michigan, as well as portions of the unitizing operations at the Flint, Mich., Processing Center will be evaluated in accordance with the provisions of the GM-UAW national agreement.
St. Catharines Ontario Street West powertrain components facility in Ontario, Canada, will cease production in 2008.
The Flint, Mich., North 3800 engine facility ("Factory 36") will cease production in 2008.
Given the demographics of GM's workforce, the company plans to achieve much of the job reduction via attrition and early retirement programs. GM will work with the leadership of its unions, as any early retirement program would need to be mutually agreed upon. GM hopes to reach an agreement on such a plan as soon as possible.

"These are difficult moves that will affect thousands of dedicated GM employees and families, as well as state and local governments," Wagoner said. "We will work our hardest to mitigate that impact."

There will be a significant restructuring charge in conjunction with this capacity announcement, and also with any related early retirement program. The details of these charges will be provided when available.

Wagoner also said the company has further accelerated its efforts in structural cost reduction, raising the previously indicated $5 billion running rate cost reduction plan in North America to $6 billion by the end of 2006. In addition, GM continues to pursue its plans to target $1 billion in net material cost savings. In total, the plan is to achieve $7 billion of cost reductions on a running rate basis by the end of 2006 - $1 billion above the previously indicated target.

"Our collective goal remains the same: to return our North American operations to sustained profitability as soon as possible, thereby helping to ensure a strong General Motors for the future," Wagoner concluded.

General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM), the world's largest automaker, has been the global industry sales leader since 1931. Founded in 1908, GM today employs about 325,000 people around the world. It has manufacturing operations in 32 countries and its vehicles are sold in 200 countries. In 2004, GM sold nearly 9 million cars and trucks globally, up 4 percent and the second-highest total in the company's history. GM's global headquarters are at the GM Renaissance Center in Detroit. More information on GM can be found at www.gm.com.

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Forward-looking Statements

In this press release and in related comments by General Motors management, our use of the words "expect, anticipate, design, estimate, forecast, initiative, objective, plan, goal, project, outlook, priorities, target, intend, evaluate, seek, impact" and similar expressions, including references to what the future implementation of our restructuring plan and the tentative health-care agreement with the UAW will achieve, and when, in terms of cost savings and capacity reduction, is intended to identify forward-looking statements. While these statements represent our current judgment on what the future may hold, and we believe these judgments are reasonable, actual results may differ materially due to numerous important factors that are described in GM's most recent report on SEC Form 10-K, which may be revised or supplemented in subsequent reports on SEC Forms 10-Q and 8-K. Such factors include, among others, the following: the ability of GM to realize production efficiencies, to achieve reductions in costs as a result of the restructuring and health-care cost reductions and to implement capital expenditures, all at the levels and times planned by management; the pace of product introductions; significant changes in the competitive environment; changes in laws, regulations and tax rates; the ability of the corporation to achieve reductions in cost and employment levels to realize production efficiencies and implement capital expenditures at levels and times planned by management; changes in relations with unions and employees/retirees and the legal interpretations of the agreements with those unions with regard to employees/retirees; shortages of and price increases for fuel; labor strikes or work stoppages; market acceptance of the corporation's new products; additional credit rating downgrades; and changes in economic conditions, commodity prices, currency exchange rates or political stability.







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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 9:26 AM
unions are part of the problem


the biggest is the unions are only out for themselves , if they really cared about the people they are susposed to represent , they wouldnt force you to strike , where you DONT GET ANY PAY

but yet you still gotta pay your dues , while your on stike making money ?????????


time to go with scab labor







Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 11:03 AM
[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM&00s/c sedans™)]unions are part of the problem


the biggest is the unions are only out for themselves , if they really cared about the people they are susposed to represent , they wouldnt force you to strike , where you DONT GET ANY PAY

but yet you still gotta pay your dues , while your on stike making money ?????????


time to go with scab labor

You really have no idea how a Union works, do you?? You're showing nothing but total ignorance, so I say you don't. When a Union goes on strike, it's usually because neither side can reach an agreement. Whike on strike, the Union gives you strike pay to help you get by.. MORON!!!





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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 11:32 AM
wow like 10 cents a hour , BFD so you get to walk the picket line , job like that makes me happy


im from cali , and my mom worked union , she lost 20-30 thousand dollars while out on strike


unions are like insurance , mobs , our government , all rip offs







Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 12:52 PM
i think they should take a cut from all the top dogs who like to give themselves rasises even if a company is going down. drive around in the luxury cars and cutting peoples jobs instaed of cutting back their pay and their staff. one of the business here was starting to go under and a company took it over. the 1st thing they did was cut the top dog staff about a third. too many people at the main office making big bucks to jack off. 2nd was to have them take some cut in pay. since coroprote was all buddy, buddy and family members they give each other nice raises fairly regular. while they gave the workers at the stores 10-20 cent raise once a year if that for an evaluation($.20 times a 40 hr week = $8 a week times 52 weeks = $416 a year) . and when you hit top pay thats it. top dogs in companys meanwhile dont know what a top pay is they need more money the put in for a raise and bada boom. worse case they will do it the following year, and we all know it would be more then $400 for a year more like a $1000+. so if GM would cut back on their checks that would solve alot of it. enron guys were making a ton of money though the business was drowning badly. they continued giving themselves raises.

i hate to see ones lose their jobs but that politics for you at the top levels. they'd rather cut people lose then take a cut in their $50,000++++ a year jobs. besides the more people they cut the more they save which means the more raise they can give themselves is what it boils down too.




Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 1:45 PM
^^Well said!
If it wasn't for unions our salaries would be no different then the ones found over the boarder and you would see lots of exploitations.

Unions, healthcare is not the issue here for GM's down fall (and a very weak excuse to that), it is very simple, poor products for the market inwhich consumers are noticing and therefore not reluctant to buy.
And in the end, this is the end results.^^





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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 2:15 PM
2 words
"LEAN MANUFACTURING"
Toyota and Chrysler already are ahead on this. It is the future.


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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 3:05 PM
Turbo Tech Racing wrote:2 words
"LEAN MANUFACTURING"
Toyota and Chrysler already are ahead on this. It is the future.


And that is why GM is doing what they are doing.

GM in some cases has 2 shifts in 3 plants that are building the same thing. They can put 3 shifts in 2 plants that will be smarter.

This is just many steps that GM is going to be taking to get there plants at 100% pruduction. If need be and they have to make more vehicles we will just work OT.

And this is when you will see the Rebates actually go away These rebates somwhat backfired on GM. People were to buy GM with the rebates over the no rebated Asian vehicles. It just amazing when GM rebated Toyota and Honda seen increases in sales. :shrug: Atleast it helped keep the economy rolling.





Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Monday, November 21, 2005 4:13 PM
Poor People, Damn Shame!






Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:35 AM
I know as much as the next guy on here but when legacy cost and healthcare cost amount to $1500-2000 of the total price of the car, than you have a problem.

Unions at one time were needed but are not now. Unions don't help out the worker to what is need but what they want. Unions take the credit when things go good and pass the buck when they are bad. Unions have wanted too much and have bankrupted GM. Frankly, the quality of GM products are crappy and (being a die hard GM fan) have made me re-think of buying GM products but I would not like to buy jap cars but the quality is better and it cost less and most are assembled here in the US. GM has been around a lot longer than Toyota and others so they will have more legacy cost (people on retirement / pension). Those funds were miss used and there is no longer any money to cover it (management fault). Like Delta's situation.

Also GM needs designs that can excite people but to say that is the whole reason would not be correct. GM got to big and people want to much on both sides labor/management.

But no matter what we say people are going to need to learn to do something else and I hope some took advantage and got some degrees or anything to better them selves so that they can provide for their families.



Quote: no ofence man but if you have so much experience in all that why does your car look like crap?

Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:09 PM
Unions are still needed they just need to take a step back and re evaluate their Roll and how to approach it.

Right now as it stands with GM slashing these Jobs to run leaner. GM is looking to save $6 Billion. GM is also looking to save $1 Billion in '06 is scrap/waste costs. Also if UAW follows through with the New HealthCare plan then GM is looking to save $15 Billion in '06. So that right there is $22 Billion in '06 alone.

Also GM is looking to sell 50.1% of GMAC to get GMAC out of GM's Junk Stock status because with GMAC number alone makes it a very profitable buisness and not Junk bonds.

GM is finnaly moving towards 100% or more Capacity in the US it is about time. Even though it might mean a layoff for me for awhile.





Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:42 AM
IMO to use the healthcare as a excuse for GM's downfall is lame and weak. Top corporate official will never admit to their screw-ups of product judgement. Just like a plant, if you want to cure the problem, start at the root, in this case corporate management.

Case in point to how GM has it all backwards....

As of right now there is a whopping 110 day supply of Cobalts ( 50-60-day supply is healthy) and yet GM has run seven Saturdays of overtime at its Lordstown, Ohio plant. In other words they are building cars and the market is not moving them.
Yet you look at the Solstice's plant in Delaware doing no type of overtime or extra shifts and yet the market is asking for them in high demand.
Point being, this is another point as to how GM's management does not see the market. Here you have a hot seller (Solstice) and yet they are not building to the demand, which is ridiculous because if there is a 6-12month waiting period, those Solstice customers will look else where---mainly Mazda's new MX-5.
Yet still GM decided to over flow dealers with slow selling products, which mostly sells to fleet---which in return is heavily discounted and low profiting for GM. Also by overflowing the market you're almost required to do the rebate trend again in order to sell, and in the GM is right back where they started----Profit cutting & product degrading rebates.

And this is one of many of GM's screw-ups.




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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:15 PM
Maybe GM should try trimming some of these people? So many VP's wow.

http://www.gm.com/company/investor_information/corp_gov/officers.html

Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:00 PM
No @!#$, people buy imports Toyotas, Hondas and this is what hppens.


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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:20 PM
Mr. Goodwrench

the main reason GM is pushing OT at plants like Lordstown is because they are getting ready for a huge strike from UAW against Delphi.





Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:33 PM
Unions are ahuge problem in american industry today. they need to be regulated, many union members can back me on that. this past year theirs been a mass exdous of unions from the AFL-CIO...or whatever it's called. their is alot of in fighting in actual unions right now over reform. People want change, but union heads are corrupt and stubborn.

but it's not just labor, it's executive level too. GM needs to not only cut jobs from hard working americans. but seriously needs to cut the fat in it's front office. GM wastes more money on unimportant exceutive jobs and those jobs rediculous salaries than anything. and more so than the workers, the legacy costs of retired executives is even more ugly. The entire company is a big pig. they need to realize the wave of the future is "LEAN MANUFACTURING"

Also i very much agree with Goodwrench. fire the guy that ok'd the Pontiac Aztek, and not a supercharged J-body....when the sport compact market was uber hot about 3 years ago, and all the other stinker product from the last 5 or so years. as well as people that don't have a "simple" understanding of supply and demand. And i feel Wagoneer needs to be fired or forced to retire like his bloated VP staff.






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Re: GM Announces Plans To Close Facilities, Slash
Friday, November 25, 2005 11:09 AM
NfamousZ24 wrote:Mr. Goodwrench

the main reason GM is pushing OT at plants like Lordstown is because they are getting ready for a huge strike from UAW against Delphi.


That tid-bit I was not aware of.
ty



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