Bill wrote:Cavaliers never came with this package, um what about the 03-05 Ls sports that had the leather wrapped shift knob .
Bill wrote:so really then the one in the Ls sports is just imitation or an add on.Bill wrote:Also, what's such a big deal about a lumbar adjuster e brake handle etc also i don't think pontiac is really anything great Give me a chevy any day of the week over any pontiac.
JBO FAQ wrote:The main differences are the exterior and interior styling. The main body of the two cars is virtually identical, right down to the frame. There is a distinct difference in the rear quarter panel and tail end sheet metal between the Cavalier and Sunfire coupes, but the sedans are identical. The mechanical equipment remains the same for both cars, and both cars have essentially the same equipment available.
To GM, the Cavalier is positioned as the more "value-based" car, while the Sunfire is seen as the more "performance-based" car. It is because of this that the Sunfire receives things such as more sound-deadening material and thicker padding in the dash and seats. Some minor options, such as courtesy lights and assist straps are only found on the Sunfire. Also, the Sunfire GT receives a dual-muffler exhaust system, while the Z24 does not.
According to a phobia list member who works at the Lordstown plant, the Sunfire also receives slightly higher-quality materials than the Cavalier does. For example, bumpers on the Cavalier are made from cheaper thermoplastic olefin (TPO) while the Sunfire receives reinforced injected molded plastic (RIM) bumpers.
Bill wrote:Good point blucavvy, however we have had some pontiacs in the past and they have not been the best cars we have had better luck with chevys granted both are gm products.
Bill wrote:Good point blucavvy, however we have had some pontiacs in the past and they have not been the best cars we have had better luck with chevys granted both are gm products.Bill wrote:as far as chevy vs pontiac don't even get you started fine, you can have your sunfire i would much rather have a chevy even though they are both gm products as i just explained we have had pontiacs in the past and they have not been the greatest cars in the world we have had better luck with a chevy so i will stick with what i have had the best luck with.J TO ENVY wrote:Were these Pontiacs used?
Bill wrote:maybe not all, but i personally would never own another one, if you love pontiac that's your choice but as for myself personally and as i said that is just me. You can agree disagree etc whatever you want with me and we can still remain friends.
J TO ENVY wrote:how many problems i've experienced with my precious little cavalier, right and not one single person on here has problems with theirs.Bill wrote:maybe not all, but i personally would never own another one, if you love pontiac that's your choice but as for myself personally and as i said that is just me. You can agree disagree etc whatever you want with me and we can still remain friends.
I just think it's ridiculous! It's like dating one person, than that person cheats on you and after that you swear off dating anyone ever again and become a hermit. It doesn't make sense! You had one bad experience with a car that is the same damn thing as your beloved Chevy!
We were never friends to begin with.
After searching for posts that you have started on here, I think it's funny to see how many of them are about problems you've experienced with your precious little Cavalier .
Wow! Just wow!
Hypocritical much?!
Bill wrote:i have had one bad experience with a car that is the same thing as my chevy, the Pontiac bonneville is the same thing as a chevy cavalier. news to meBill wrote:As for never being friends to begin with fine by me your choice.
Bill wrote:how many problems i've experienced with my precious little cavalier, right and not one single person on here has problems with theirs.
Darkstars wrote:It's not so much this question that makes you stupid.... its just you in general
Are you aware you've been nominated for the 2008 douche bag of the year and your actually do quite well in the competition? Although you've been posting less which is taking some attention away from yourself.... But yeah, bottom line, you ARE stupid
carry on
J TO ENVY wrote:you had one bad experience with a car that is the same damn thing as your chevy the pontiac we owned was a bonneville if i had owned a sunfire yeah that would be the same thing.Bill wrote:maybe not all, but i personally would never own another one, if you love pontiac that's your choice but as for myself personally and as i said that is just me. You can agree disagree etc whatever you want with me and we can still remain friends.
I just think it's ridiculous! It's like dating one person, than that person cheats on you and after that you swear off dating anyone ever again and become a hermit. It doesn't make sense! You had one bad experience with a car that is the same damn thing as your beloved Chevy!
We were never friends to begin with.
After searching for posts that you have started on here, I think it's funny to see how many of them are about problems you've experienced with your precious little Cavalier .
Wow! Just wow!
Hypocritical much?!
blucavvy wrote:j to envy-looks to me like u agreed with me a few posts earlier that sunfires and cavaliers are basically the same car and yet you come off with this pontiac>cavalier bs. what is that? it's the same vehicle!
JBO FAQ wrote:The main differences are the exterior and interior styling. The main body of the two cars is virtually identical, right down to the frame. There is a distinct difference in the rear quarter panel and tail end sheet metal between the Cavalier and Sunfire coupes, but the sedans are identical. The mechanical equipment remains the same for both cars, and both cars have essentially the same equipment available.
To GM, the Cavalier is positioned as the more "value-based" car, while the Sunfire is seen as the more "performance-based" car. It is because of this that the Sunfire receives things such as more sound-deadening material and thicker padding in the dash and seats. Some minor options, such as courtesy lights and assist straps are only found on the Sunfire. Also, the Sunfire GT receives a dual-muffler exhaust system, while the Z24 does not.
According to a phobia list member who works at the Lordstown plant, the Sunfire also receives slightly higher-quality materials than the Cavalier does. For example, bumpers on the Cavalier are made from cheaper thermoplastic olefin (TPO) while the Sunfire receives reinforced injected molded plastic (RIM) bumpers.