Has anyone found a way to obtain production numbers by model, year and transmission type?
My 2001 Cavalier Z24 with 5 speed manual seems to be a pretty rare model.
Hopefully it will appreciate in value over the years, or am I being naive?
While looking nationwide for months for another third generation Z24 with a manual trans, I have been unsuccessful.
My 2000 Z24 convertible is an automatic, and I read somewhere that all Z24 convertibles that year were with an auto trans.
Any links would be appreciated.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TOO....
Why are these simple numbers difficult to obtain?
I REALLY want a 2.4 Manual Trans last generation Cavie. More so than a C4 VettVette I'm keping my eyes open for.
My 98 sedan with the 5-speed that I totally lucked out and found 3 years ago is one of very few I have ever heard of. I have always wondered how rare it might be. It is almost a unicorn based upon my experiences. With only one or two exceptions, all manual cavs and Sunfires I have seen have always been either the Z24s or the very stripped down barebones coupes with the matte black bumpers. Having the actual Lordstown production figures would be very helpful for this site and would attract more people here in these quiet J-body times.
BTW, I was on my way back from a work trip last week and was filling up near Hagerstown, MD at about 7PM and there were 3 third gen cavaliers there. There was an older 95-99 coupe, a Z24 that still looked pretty good (probably babied for 15 years and then sold or passed on to someone) and one later 2003-2005 coupe. It is rare to see that many all at once any more. My friends thought I was nuts to even notice and bring it up.
I have a nice condition 2004 4-d2004 4-door Manual transmission. I don't know howhow rare but I've been parking it in these couple MN winters. It spent most it's life in Kansas so the rockers aren't rotted out out (yyet)...
What happened to this site? People don't seem to post here much anymore..
It's all numbers. There were hundreds of thousands if not millions of us out there on the road still 15 years ago. Now it is probably just tens of thousands where only a percentage of those who own them are still really into them. Most of the J-bodies out there are now just extra cheap wheels to folks who just want them to get from point A to B. They don't care much if their dashes are cracked or the clearcoat has all sloughed off as long as they keep going but when they finally don't it's off to the crusher instead of fixing. That was why seeing 3 cavs all at once at one gas station last week was such a rare site. It was normal 15 years ago but not now. It is getting harder even just finding 3rd gens in junkyards now. In another 10 years or so they will be getting to be as rare as a 78 Monza is now.
Thebig drop off in traffic to this site reflects that. To me the biggest tragedy of this of all is the loss of excellent and extremely useful postings with pictures that are now just dead links where the pics used to be.
I'm going to try to keep my 4 Dr manual in good condition. I'm also going to search like hell for a 2.4l manual cope (z24). If I have to I will settle for a 2.2l with engine upgrades. I have owned 4 cavies.and intent on adding one more to my 4 door.
If I decide to sell my 2001 5 speed Z 24, i will post it here first.