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Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, January 20, 2006 12:38 AM
Hey folks - I need some help. The motor in my '98Z24 finally kicked it . . might have seized a rod bearing, I really don't know. But it taps like crazy and the local Simi Valley Dealership quoted $5300 for a new motor + install. I said no thanks!

I have a year 2000 LD9 sitting in my garage with about 20k miles on it, including the computer. The dealership won't install that motor because, according to their books, it's not listed as a replacement motor for a year '98. I know that it is the same engine, but I think the year 2000 is slightly different. The lack of an EGR in the 2000 motor is the extent of the differences that I am aware of.

So I have a couple of questions:

1. Does anybody know of or have personal experience with a reputable shop who knows enough about j-body vehicles to understand the swap listed here?
2. Is there somebody on here that is capable of doing the swap themselves within a reasonable time frame? If so, what would you charge, when would you be able to do it, and where are you located?

Thanks guys - I appreciate it.




Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, January 20, 2006 1:24 AM
I know a bit about the engine, but have no experience dropping in this style of engine.

Look around for some shops if you're brave enough, they're those shops that will take any job if the price is right...

I'm sure you know the risks...



Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:25 AM
the only major difference is the knock sensor , the 98-older is a larger 1 wire knock

and the 99-02 use a smaller 2 wire knock sensor


get ahold of dave and get the size you need to drill and tap the hole with for the 98-older knock sensor


all the rest will swap in no problem , ive got a 01 2.4 in my 97 (im using the 99 non-egr pcm)

unfortunatly the 00 computer you cant use with out doing the whole 00 wiring , dash , fuel tank


the egr passage should be free and clear , you will need to use your stock injectors , egr , and exhaust manifold and gasket , everything else off the 00 motor will work


id offer to do it for you , but i really doubt you wanna bring evrything to phoenix az , and dave lives out here now also , but we could do the swap in a weekend

last 1 i did i charged the guy 250 , but his was a auto and they are alot easier to swap motors in


if you got any other questions let me know , info is in my reg






Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:43 AM
so when u do the install do u get a cel for the egr?




Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:44 AM
Who is this Dave guy
I need to get the size also for the drill


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Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:27 AM
^^^ dave = owner of the site


i got your email tony







Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:36 AM
Didnt know thats who you were talking about lol thanks


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Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:34 AM
LOL , yeah anything mentioned with just the name DAVE around here is usualy him







Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:22 PM
the cav now runs again , yay hooooooo


tony contact chad over at gravana tuning , to get upper insert and intake


http://www.gravanatuning.com/







Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:25 PM
cool




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Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Monday, April 24, 2006 3:08 PM
JHOUND (Dracos) wrote:

Who is this Dave guy
I need to get the size also for the drill

I'm Dave.

You need to enlarge the hole with a 29/64 drill bit and then tap with a 1/2-20 tap. Be careful not to go too deep, the sensor is not supposed to be screwed all the way in to the block, it sits out probably 1/4".




"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about
the former." - Albert Einstein


Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Monday, April 24, 2006 4:27 PM
Tony, your part numbers:

Shield, Front Splash
1995-99, Z24 Model
22640830 (right)
22640831 (left)

Of course something is REALLY screwed up with gmpartsdirect, when I add one of those to my cart it wants to charge over $50 shipping.





"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about
the former." - Albert Einstein

Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:29 PM
Eric - I think I found an upper insert here that I got from Karo a few years back but never installed - so I'll be putting that in. But I am going to order an intake from Gravana - thanks for the link. The car runs great - thanks for doing the swap man - I am so stoked to be back in that car. The whole trip to Phoenix turned out to be a whole lot of fun - didn't realize that so many of you guys met up at your place to work on the cars - I still think I need to get a "vacation" house out there so I can go and play!

Dave - thanks for the part numbers. I also entered them into gmpartsdirect and got the $50 shipping charge on the one side - so I emailed them and asked them to fix it. They just replied today that it's fixed - so now it's like $9 shipping while the other is like $3. Got them ordered and on the way. I really enjoyed having little Joshua check the tire pressure for me 12 times - he's a natural! Best of everything for your new future little son - if he's anything like the first you'll have a couple of prodigy's on hand.





Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:53 PM
your more than welcome TONY


i was glad to help out !!


let me know when your ready for a header , in fact i know i can get you a coated 1 tommorow if you wanted 1







Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, February 19, 2010 11:15 PM
Has it really been 4 years?!

Eric, Dave, not sure if you still get email replies to this thread - but hopefully you do; I want to get back in touch. I may need to make another trip to AZ if you guys are still there.

I'm gonna find out what's going on with my '98 but I think it might be an oil pump issue or something . . not sure yet but I will find out though.

Eric - how's the GTO treating you (still have it?)

Dave - I may be able to help out with the server issue (saw the other post under "General").

Good to see the site is going strong and some of the "old-timers" still hanging around!!

Hope to talk soon . . Eric, Dave, do you guys still have my cell number?

AJE



Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, February 19, 2010 11:25 PM
theres a place in my town who will do a swap for 2k with motor. im in vallejo



Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Friday, February 19, 2010 11:33 PM
dang didnt even notice this was an old thread lol



Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:07 AM
whats happening !! hows the cav doing ? your old rod knocker motor is still sitting here , lmao

dave is still here too






Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:13 PM
we need to get a meet going .



Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:30 PM
The '98 rod knocker motor was a special option - limited production deluxe so you better hang on to that collector's item!






Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:15 PM
yeah its just gathering some more patina now , lol

hows the cav doing these days ? things are good here , my old phone died and dont have your # , and no way to retrieve it , and always up for more visits from people







Re: Need help: '98Z24 + '00LD9 install
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:36 PM
Same with my old phone!

Sent you a PM.



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