Curtis Walker wrote:If Steve goes, Street tires vs street tires, then it would be fair.
I cant run on street tires, the car will spin through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear.
soooooo:
turbo 2.2 ohv on slicks vs turbo v6 on drag radials...or slicks if you guys cant work something out.
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
Yea, i will be playing bookie that night, so if anyone wants to make some bets i am your man.
Me and Steve should line them up too.
Might be a good race? I'll be on street tires. See ya'll at sonic tonight!
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Yeah, then Brian vs the wagon, both on street tires. No point too line up with a car on slicks.
See, Adler wants over 2x the boost, Full LSD, and 2X the traction, while the wagon only has 30% more displacement...
Curtis
91' Turbo Z24
http://www.turboz24.com
um....
everyone please take note I've had no real part in this car vs. car discussion.
i have enough entertainment just driving the wagon on the street.
did i mention i've never even raced the critter on a track before??
Have you seen the turbo wagon?
14.069 @ 98.91mph
229.1hp & 261.7ft/lbs @ 6psi
no tuning time
Curtis Walker wrote:Yeah, then Brian vs the wagon, both on street tires. No point too line up with a car on slicks.
They can run for FUN! Whoever wins, wins. Unless anybody is going to put money on it who really cares the outcome and what anybody is bringing to the table. Run what yah brung and hope it's enough!
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Curtis Walker wrote:Yeah, then Brian vs the wagon, both on street tires. No point too line up with a car on slicks.
See, Adler wants over 2x the boost, Full LSD, and 2X the traction, while the wagon only has 30% more displacement...
Awww come on Curtis, you are the one who is always calling me out. You are always saying that the wagon would beat me at the track. Dont back out now! I am not wanting to run for money, I want to run for fun.
The wagon also has a cam with better headwork than I do, and its a V6. I also think that the wagon put down more power than I did.
Run what yah brung, even if that means mounting your slicks on a different wheel so they can be used on the wagon.
turbo 2.2 ohv VS. turbo 3.1 v6 August 12th
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
Maybe I can finish up my car and you can run mine slicks vs slicks, hell I'll even drop the boost too 6 psi so it's equal displacement under boost.
Curtis
91' Turbo Z24
http://www.turboz24.com
who wants some of the cobalt
tidbits...
the cam is mild, as is the port work.
stock internals, open diff, rated hp last autumn of 229.1 @ approx 6psi...
since i've been reading miata forums for the past few weeks/months, i guess i missed how i've suddenly gone from maybe showing up to support friends to actually racing the wagon.
it's high weirdness like this that makes me not want to even bother. i have friends running drag boats that day anyway. i can go watch that & not worry about folks bickering about my wagon.
best,
jux
Have you seen the turbo wagon?
14.069 @ 98.91mph
229.1hp & 261.7ft/lbs @ 6psi
no tuning time
jux wrote:since i've been reading miata forums for the past few weeks/months, i guess i missed how i've suddenly gone from maybe showing up to support friends to actually racing the wagon.
it's high weirdness like this that makes me not want to even bother. i have friends running drag boats that day anyway. i can go watch that & not worry about folks bickering about my wagon.
best,
jux
Blaaaah...just put some slicks on your car so we can run each other on the 12th
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
i need to get some street wheels and tires before i even consider track-only tires.
...plus the miata is begging for some upkeep parts. slicks just aren't in the budget right now.
the wagon's a street car anyway. wouldn't slicks be overkill for it?
Have you seen the turbo wagon?
14.069 @ 98.91mph
229.1hp & 261.7ft/lbs @ 6psi
no tuning time
Just stick with your DR's. You may not be able to 60ft. as good with them as slicks. But with some practice they should be pretty good. IMO
Besides you need some coin left over to prep that miata for autox.
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the 'vert is already perfect for tire tire class in C stock. just needs a fresh timing belt, water pump and a fresh alignment (i'm much lighter than the previous owner).
I'm curious, though, just how SCCA would class the wagon. I saw a jetta wagon running in Equip Rapide last weekend, so my interest has definitely been piqued.
Have you seen the turbo wagon?
14.069 @ 98.91mph
229.1hp & 261.7ft/lbs @ 6psi
no tuning time
jux wrote:the 'vert is already perfect for tire tire class in C stock. just needs a fresh timing belt, water pump and a fresh alignment (i'm much lighter than the previous owner).
I'm curious, though, just how SCCA would class the wagon. I saw a jetta wagon running in Equip Rapide last weekend, so my interest has definitely been piqued.
Eh who knows the rule book for SCCA is HUGE. My guess is with turbo + suspension mods you would be looking at some race prepped class which would be UGLY. Just come race with the BMW club where it is run what yah brung and more importantly more laid back, you get more runs then SCCA too.
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jux wrote:the wagon's a street car anyway. wouldn't slicks be overkill for it?
My car is a street car and I still run it on slicks
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
run heads up like planned.. don't be a fag now,
410Hp 404Ftlbs : )
need i say more?
jeez...is that even worth a retort? no wonder i don't read here much anymore...
Have you seen the turbo wagon?
14.069 @ 98.91mph
229.1hp & 261.7ft/lbs @ 6psi
no tuning time
I have an idea....
Heads up
Adler
13 psi
slicks
full LSD
Built motor
2.2
Wagon
6 psi
street tires
Open Diff
Cast rebuild kit
3.1
.............Adler wins due too 60'.
No need too actually race now.
Curtis
91' Turbo Z24
http://www.turboz24.com
Wow what a turn of events. Looks like someone lost their balls. Why you trying to back out now after all the @!#$ talking? Quit being a bunch of pussies. Run what ya brung.
<-- Trys to think of anytime Jux has EVER called anybody out or talked crap for that matter...hmm don't recall makes it kind of hard for him to "BACK OUT" maybe I missed something?
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didnt miss anything either. never seen jux issue a battle.
That's cus Jux never has issued a challenge.
Hey Adler, wanna run a mostly stock SRT-4??? I put it all back to stock accept for a boost controller. Stock air box, stock exhaust(I even added a muffler), stock computer, stock wastegate actuator. I'll run ya, you on slicks and me on street tires.
I might just show up if someone will run me. Otherwise I'll just lower the boost back down to 5 psi, fill up with 87 octane, and stay at home.
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91 Cav "GT"<-- R.I.P.
91 Cavalier Wagonstein - Turbocharged wagon goodness
You can take my rifle when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
91 Cav wrote:Hey Adler, wanna run a mostly stock SRT-4??? I put it all back to stock accept for a boost controller. Stock air box, stock exhaust(I even added a muffler), stock computer, stock wastegate actuator. I'll run ya, you on slicks and me on street tires.
I might just show up if someone will run me. Otherwise I'll just lower the boost back down to 5 psi, fill up with 87 octane, and stay at home.
I'll line up with yah.
Hell I will line up with anybody. Win or lose there will still be somebody faster then me.
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