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180ø Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 9:15 AM
I saw this 180 Degree Thermostat on TurboTech Racing's website. Has anyone done this? I hate how my car thermostat will heat up when I'm idling (my old Jeep and Honda stayed at a constant temperature). It's nice and cheap at $15. Is it worth it? Is the instal hard?






Re: 180ø Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 10:19 AM
listening



Re: 180ø Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 10:21 AM
dammit i want one for the eco



Re: 180ø Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 10:38 AM
The stock one is 180 degrees. I would just do the fan switch mod or look for a 160 degree one.



Re: 180ø Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 10:39 AM
Brett wrote:The stock one is 180 degrees. I would just do the fan switch mod or look for a 160 degree one.


You don't want your car running that cold. 195 degrees is optimal temperature and is completely normal.





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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 10:55 AM
Shifted (KickAzz) wrote:
Brett wrote:The stock one is 180 degrees. I would just do the fan switch mod or look for a 160 degree one.


You don't want your car running that cold. 195 degrees is optimal temperature and is completely normal.


Yes that is very true because the ECU will never think that the engine is fully warmed up and always run rich. Hot engines are also generally more efficient (power and fuel economy) than a cooler engine



Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 11:03 AM
195 is stock in ALL J's and put a 180 in there and drive it around in the winter time you think that a 15 degree difference wotn make much but it will take about 10 more minutes to get the car warm enough to drive... i did that in my old 2.2 and i switched it out a little later....

and like said above the ecu will stay in closed loop mode and your car wont run right...





Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 11:05 AM
^ Actually it will be in open loop mode, but close enough





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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 11:47 AM
lol
my bad
i forgot





Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 12:33 PM
I have heard it is not a good idea not to use a 180 degree termostat.


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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 1:12 PM
i have one sitting around never got around to installing it because i didnt knowhow i couldnt figure it out....guess its not worth putting in anyways


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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 1:48 PM
I have a 96 Z24 and in the owners manual it says the 2.4's have 180 stock and the 2.2's have 195 and I know for a fact that they are 180 so importfightercavys wrong about all cavys coming with 195 but your car did come with a 195 cause its a 2.2, not sure if they changed in later dates though and a thermostat change for a 2.2 is easy but a 2.4 much harder cause the waterpump is in the back and thats where the thermo is upside down
Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 1:59 PM
^ The thermostat is suppose to be on the side of the head like the 2.3 isn it?

As for the car not running right, it's BS! I've been running without a thermostat for 2 years and everything is fine.



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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 5:41 PM
what do you have to do to get it on a 2200? i couldnt find where it was at? or at least how to get to it


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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 6:44 PM
its not actually on the block on the 2.2.....righ in front of the rad all the hoses kinda come together...a little of to the left hand side i guess...thess a housing there...the thermos in there


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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 6:56 PM
oh really thanks


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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 8:02 PM
I've got a 180, no problems here. can't say for sure if it made any difference inpower though, put in as part of the rebuild. No problems warming up though, atleast in 40 degree weather. I've put them in most of my prior vehicles, they seemed to make a little more power, but that was on the subjective butt dyno!





Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Monday, March 14, 2005 10:03 PM
mine is a 180 stock but runs at 195 i just put one of those bottles of i used hyper lube radiator cooler(there are a few comps that make them tho) and now my car runs at 180 and doesn't go much above 195 on a hot day in trafic.



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Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:11 AM
From my experience, every cavalier I've come accross has a 180. However. That doesn't mean they all came with 180's. And I'm sure some mechanic somewhere decided 180 was too cold and told some poor parts guy, "Give me a 195." Thinking he was doing someone a favor.
As far as buying a thermostat for a cavalier from somewhere other then the dealer, I'd never do it. I went through four on my girlfriends car in less then a month cause the car never heated up on the highway. I went through a regular murray, 2 ultrastats, and a failsafe all by murray. Didn't fix the problem till I went to the dealer and spent the fifteen there and got one.

and unless you have an alluminum block, and an alluminum head, 195 is NOT hot. that is why your fan doesn't kick on until about 210 or so. They are made to run when they are warm, not cold.

I would never use an additive in my cooling system. If there is a real problem Fix it. otherwise, understand why your car does what it does before you change it.
Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:27 AM
^^ well my 2.2 ecotec stays at 195 and its all alluminum block...





Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:08 AM
I have a 2001 2.2 i was looking around for a thermostat and the guy at the parts store told me that it was crazy because my car came stock with a 180 degree.

Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:54 AM
importfightercavalier wrote:^^ well my 2.2 ecotec stays at 195 and its all alluminum block...

and heads too



Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:59 AM
the stock one is 180 degrees. believe me, i took it out, and stamped right on the back is "180"

go to an auto parts store and ask for a replacement thermostat, it'll be 180.

the only way to get your car to run cooler is to drill a small hole in the center of the stat, so that there's a small amount of coolant constantly running through the radiator. nobody makes colder than 180 for J's.






Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:16 AM
i meant a 195 degree thermostat. What is the thermostat that is in your eco? Bet it is prolly a 180.
Re: 180� Degree Low Temperature Thermostat
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:26 AM
i bet its not
my car never runs below 195 once its warmed up



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