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NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PICS!
Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:26 PM
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These are 2.3 HO adaptor flanges to allow you to bolt up the 2.3 HO or LO intake manifold to the 2.4 Head. The only modifying needed to be done will be to the 2.3 Manifold which consists of slotting out and elongating specific holes. The adaptor Flanges are made of high grade Phenolic material, a much more expensive non heat transfering material which will keep incoming air/fuel cooler for better performance. For what you are getting it is a bargain you will not find any where else. Persision CNC machined, will save time money and better performance. The price is only 55$ and are ready to ship. Not advertising just letting everyone know of a new product and I know everyone wanted to see pictures.




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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:57 PM
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Looks nice. Do you have any pictures of this plate in use? I want to see exactly what you mean, or what needs to be done to use it. Thanks



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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:11 PM
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yay!!! cant wait to get mine...
just have to figure the egr things without simulaor!!!!!!!

thanx chris for giving us a good deal like this





Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:17 PM
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They look really good, I'd also like to see pics of them installed, so when you have those post them up! Unfortunately for me, I'm unable to take advantage of this at this time.


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:23 PM
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What width are these phenolic adapters?


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:41 PM
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Good stuff Chris.
Will def. have to get a m.o. out to you bro.
I never backed out.
Was just waiting for a reembursment deposit to my account.


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:45 PM
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I want to see exactly what you mean, or what needs to be done to use it. Thanks


Basically, his flange will bolt up to the 2.4L head.
Take off the 2.4L manifold and the flange slides right on there.

As for the LO/HO manifold,
Like it says over in the FAQ at NY jbodys, you have to slot out the bottom holes and drill the two inside holes 'lower'

The HO/LO manifold holes sit a little higer so your basically drilling to ge tthe thing to sit lower.
Its all in the faq.

Although, I'm still wondering about something....
Oh well will have to wait and see...
Folks with Exploited's flange are happy, and this one seems on the same level or better +/-.


-M


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:16 PM
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sweet cant wait to get mine







Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:36 PM
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Mastin wrote:

Quote:

I want to see exactly what you mean, or what needs to be done to use it. Thanks


Basically, his flange will bolt up to the 2.4L head.
Take off the 2.4L manifold and the flange slides right on there.

As for the LO/HO manifold,
Like it says over in the FAQ at NY jbodys, you have to slot out the bottom holes and drill the two inside holes 'lower'

The HO/LO manifold holes sit a little higer so your basically drilling to ge tthe thing to sit lower.
Its all in the faq.

Although, I'm still wondering about something....
Oh well will have to wait and see...
Folks with Exploited's flange are happy, and this one seems on the same level or better +/-.


-M


I realize this, but I want pictures of the product installed. I have always heard you had to cut the 2.3 flange off and weld on a 2.4 flange. Also the ports on the 2.3 manifol and the 2.4 adapter plate are still not going to match (correct?)



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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:51 PM
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you still have to cut the 4 holes on the 2.3 ho for the mounting

the idea of these were to match the 2.3 port to the 2.4 port alot closer







Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:54 PM
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If you look closer though, it seems that the 2.3 manifold still needs to be ported to have those two "bumps" there in the runners.

Still probably will buy one, just have to wait until the funds return to my bank account





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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:19 PM
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How are you going about selling these, a GP, website, clasifieds, personal contact. I am very interested, I have the exploited flange in aluminum and it conducts heat pretty bad. So, count me in.



Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:36 PM
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I am seeing a problem with these. There is no transition on the lower part of the flange. See how this flange has the transition at the bottom.






Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:17 PM
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^ isnt that the pic from exploteds post on the 2.3 th 2.4 adaptor flange



Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:26 PM
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I can see the transition thing. I just had to look more carefully at the picture

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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:31 PM
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I just need to remember what length of studs to use. Mastin do you remember? I know the stockers don't work.

I lost my cheat sheet.


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:49 PM
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Shifted wrote:

If you look closer though, it seems that the 2.3 manifold still needs to be ported to have those two "bumps" there in the runners.


yeah i noticed the same thing. i was led to believe that it was a direct swap with no modifications. oh well...more work to do.....


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 5:12 AM
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neat. I seen one on a car(well a exploited one) and it looked good.

I have a striaght 2.4l like this one pictured i got from exploited that i am not using. Someone can e mail with any offer.

Nice work, i will not get into detail on how cheap of pricing that phenolic stuff is .




Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 5:20 AM
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I will get a pic with it on the head.

As for the bottom not being tapered is because the 2.3 flange is larger top to bottom leaving a little space, about 1/16 of an inch. I went to a race shop that builds motorcycles located right next door to ask about this. They say it will not make a difference due to only air passed through, not fuel. The same amount of air will flow due to the 2.3s larger runners and plenum. If you are really concerned then just grind down the port on the head, but it will not make a difference. When I saw that I got kinda nervous as well but since it is the air, not fuel/air there will not be a problem.

What really sets this product apart is it being made of Phenolic material. As for the thickness it is made of 1/2 material.


I will get pics today of them on a head. I still have one head at the machine shop and one at my house which is a 2000, are they the same because I was using a 96-99 head at the machine shop. Either way I will get pictures up.

Thanks for all the comments.

Chris



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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 6:53 AM
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I think I want some.


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 8:53 AM
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Chris Fontana wrote:

As for the bottom not being tapered is because the 2.3 flange is larger top to bottom leaving a little space, about 1/16 of an inch. I went to a race shop that builds motorcycles located right next door to ask about this. They say it will not make a difference due to only air passed through, not fuel. The same amount of air will flow due to the 2.3s larger runners and plenum. If you are really concerned then just grind down the port on the head, but it will not make a difference. When I saw that I got kinda nervous as well but since it is the air, not fuel/air there will not be a problem.


well, i'm planning on putting and extra injector in each runner, as close to the intake port as i can. so i guess this will be a probelm for me. and somehow i dont think its that easy as "just grinding down the port on the head". but hey, i'll figure something out, i always do...


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 12:11 PM
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chris? any idea when they'll be sent out?


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 2:19 PM
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my money was sent out today Chris


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Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 3:59 PM
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Spilner521 wrote:

well, i'm planning on putting and extra injector in each runner, as close to the intake port as i can. so i guess this will be a probelm for me. and somehow i dont think its that easy as "just grinding down the port on the head". but hey, i'll figure something out, i always do...


Its easy, the material is like wood basicly, you can grind it down with a dremel, or even sand paper.

and the stud lenghts are found here. http://www.quad4forums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3252




Re: NEW PRODUCT:2.3 HO Phenolic Adaptor Flanges PI
Friday, May 27, 2005 4:20 PM
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5 M8x1.25 45mm bolts
2 M8x1.25 60mm studs


I wonder if I can get these at a regular hardware store. I should be able to I hope.


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