Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:DanteMustDie wrote:Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:"no one has said you can get 50 hp from P&P alone. if so quote me"
No but you did say cams and p&p net 176 whp
"the jbodyperformance cams claim 176 whp...think that was with a port and polish, which is mild."
ok so who in their right mings couldnt realize thats one example given? if anyone who uses their mellon they should realize thats one example. you can change cam specs, you can get more agressive ports and polishes. or do you just think theres only ONE way and specs for cams and p&p's.
so like said above, quote me where i said it, or simply quit trying to make other statements squeeze into what you NEVER read from me.
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here you go. stock ecos dyno somewhere around 125 whp to 130. I'll let you make the calculations.
no sh-T.... did you miss where i ALREADY said that or as usual, were you not reading or convieniently skipped over it?
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Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:DanteMustDie wrote:I didn't say it was impossible, but that no one had done it. Plus I was more referring to the fact that he said a "mildly" modified eco.
i know this.... none have done it yet, but not many ever will, cheap crowd on the whole.
and mildly modified.... questionable. but weight is a factor as well. thats free, costs nothing. dont need it, take it out. thats what i was more or less thinking of...
15 second car stock, 130 on avg to wheel HP... full interior avg driver.
the jbodyperformance cams claim 176 whp...think that was with a port and polish, which is mild. fuel mods and a reflash could put it in the low 200, high 100;s whp wise...
follow me instead of repeating stuff i ALREADY said. if i was wrong on their wheel HP, thats fine, but i am still being realistic in saying high 100;s can be achieved overall. and yes i;ve done the calculations factoring in 15% drivetrain loss. if you would like me to factor in an auto, let me know.
I did read the import fighter article. Now how do you think they tuned that eco ? They can play in the computer, that's why ! Until the HPTuners software is out, this is not something we can do !
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Sorry, your stuff doesn't add up. And get realistic a bit, easy stuff is what most people can do, and if was that easy, they'd do it. There are a lot of knoledgeable people here that own an eco and have tried an n/a setup. Since the stuff you speak of is so easy and mild, some of them ought to have tried it, no ? I know you're not used to not being right on this site, but man, what you're saying is less and less mild with each of the posts you make.
Please read above paragraph 5 times before making your next reply.
Quote:which is like saying we cant tune a car... even people using the Safc are getting some gains... but since you can get a reflash done......
Now how do you think they tuned that eco ? They can play in the computer, that's why ! Until the HPTuners software is out, this is not something we can do !
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And get realistic a bit, easy stuff is what most people can do, and if was that easy, they'd do it. Since the stuff you speak of is so easy and mild, some of them ought to have tried it, no ?
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whatever you say lol, you like argumenting about everything else while I just stated that doing all the work you enumerated is hardly mild for 99 % majority of people here and you can make a poll if you want, because 99 % of the people WILL agree with me. I won't waste my posts arguing with you since you will never admit ANYTHING on your part.
And don't be a smart-ass and tell me to get premium.
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Now how do you think they tuned that eco ? They can play in the computer, that's why ! Until the HPTuners software is out, this is not something we can do !"
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all the work you enumerated is hardly mild for 99 % majority of people here