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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:23 AM
Excuses are like a........

Well you know what I mean

The car weighs over 3000 without me in the car thats a fact

- you said you ran the 16 second run at the bash on 3 cylinders......

yes and rather impressive seeing as how I also had a full stereo load in the car that weighs more than 250lber

-you also said you could take off the supercharger belt and run 14;s and i can quote that.
weighing as much as a stock LS sport I have no doubt

That 15.7 with an intake and TB was 2 years ago theres been a ton of things done since

Bottom line, the car is built for stereo competition not for racing, and despite that its still faster than most ppl on here, performance has never been my focus alot of the reason I got the charger was to get the car back to stock speed, because it was so heavy from the stereo stuff it wasnt as much fun to drive. I'll never be as fast as I could be cause I will never give up the stereo stuff




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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:12 PM
the 2.2 liter is a potential powerhouse any motor is really. it is the dirty work and math
that no one respects .. my 2.2 is compimented with a t3/t4 hybrid turbo and a bunch of
internals.but my car is burdened with stereo components. i support the ohv



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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:06 PM
I seriously need to make the bash next year.

Those timeslips are a bit old! Mod list is too hehe!




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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:35 PM
Ok 1st off the Beatle guy, trust me man I know about drag racing and you are NOT the one that said that I am owned it was someone else, and yes I read your post.
I can put about 200 WHP to the ground that other 55 I am having problems with but that is why there is a A-VCR.

Event, I can care less about people here and there are only certain people that I talk to on AIM and stuff, there is bunch of newbs that can just piss you off here and that is about it.
You or someone else said about losing money buying new car with a different motor, well not me I just do MAD SWAPS.
If I still had my OHV when I started about 6 years ago with stereo and stuff I would have a 400+ WHP OHV right now or some insurance money for ""accidental""" fire that happened to my car.
I just kept on swapping and testing.

Someone brough up the owner of Car Customs, and lets NOT go there because he doesn't like that, but look at the weight/HP ratio there.
I make bogus claims, I do!!! I said that August 4th I would bring a 12.8 second pass but I didn't deliver, I was only able to make a mere 13.1 like it is not close enough anyways.
About my 12.5 I guess we will have to see, here REEEEEEEEEEALLY soon. Let's keep that open.
NO J EVER gets respest unless it is driven by Lisa Kube, Matt Hartford or this Gallardo guys, it is what it is.
Locally I mees with a lot of people and we do ROLL races here, so I DO have enough to put a 105mph car that has good traction and runs a 12.7 at least 2 cars behind from a 40 mph roll to 120. One more time traction is a problem.
WHY do I mess with MY car??
Not for the ORG, but for locals, when you have SRT's trapping low 120's, Civics in 115-120's, DSM's 125-135mph that is what drives you and let me not talk about V-8's around here.
The guys I know now is building a RSX after he blew up the K20 that trapped about 117mph, he is doing a K24 with a GT35R, and he used to run 17 psi, lets just say he WILL NOT be so considerable anymore, he wants to race me now. Should we even go there? Just because my car is a Cavalier and I have some respectable rides under my belt.
I raced a high 10 second Cobra that traps 125's, 3rd was pretty even and when he shifted to 4th he put about short bus on me, when he said he runs low 12. He gave me a roll too. lmao
That is why I am doing what I am doing, all the people here have street driven cars or weekend racers, Supras and 240s are out of control. RB swaps and stuff.
So one more time I don't disrespect OHV's I mean I used to own one, but should I be shot for switching and taking the easy ways out?? I think not.

It is pretty easy to put a Ecotec powered J, at least mine in 11's mph!!!! Which could be anywhere from 117+mph. But try to get that traction.
I could have about a month ago, but I went the tranny way and trying to get traction cost me about $2500, where I could have had a tractionless, wiesco, eagle, ferrea, ARP, clevite, 70 shot direct port, motor/car, that traps 11 sec mph but is near there.
One more thing, you cannot use trial and error against me and all the years, that I have spend with different power plants, but you CAN this 9-10 months of me owning Ecotec.
I thought I saw you giving props in one of your post saying I got it from 16's to ALMOST 12's, and if that is it, than thanks.
BTW, the motor is near the breaking point I guess, but I am working on my traction right now since the tranny is done right now, so slims my chances of NOT reaching my goal cause of raising the boost. $40 axle is pretty cheap, if these slicks start eating them up.

One more thing with this long ass post, my goal for now is 12 psi what I am running and a 70 shot direct port or single we'll see, which I am going to use on a built motor ONLY, which SHOULD bring my MPH to about 117, and when HP Tuners come out with their stuff, 18 psi and 70 shot, so I should be right around 400 WHP and 121-123mph traps which is plenty for 11's in a daily driver.
But I might die tomorrow who knows.




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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:58 PM
Good luck man! That sounds tits!


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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:35 PM
All I need is another year with this motor. lol
I have ALMOST used up one right now about 2-3 months shy off it.
Thanks for props./



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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:45 PM


thats my friends 96 2.2 in has cav. all motor work not turbo or anything over 300 hp

i have a 2.2OHV and its not the slowest motor out there. i have had no major proplems with it and it runs fine. my friends all have the 2.4 motors and i can keep with them fine.



Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:35 PM
Rodimus Prime wrote:Excuses are like a........

Well you know what I mean

The car weighs over 3000 without me in the car thats a fact

- you said you ran the 16 second run at the bash on 3 cylinders......

yes and rather impressive seeing as how I also had a full stereo load in the car that weighs more than 250lber

-you also said you could take off the supercharger belt and run 14;s and i can quote that.
weighing as much as a stock LS sport I have no doubt

That 15.7 with an intake and TB was 2 years ago theres been a ton of things done since

Bottom line, the car is built for stereo competition not for racing, and despite that its still faster than most ppl on here, performance has never been my focus alot of the reason I got the charger was to get the car back to stock speed, because it was so heavy from the stereo stuff it wasnt as much fun to drive. I'll never be as fast as I could be cause I will never give up the stereo stuff


dude dont bring in the "my car is built for stereo" stuff....

half the times you say you are laying off stereo and doing all racing...

then the other times you;ve said the complete opposite....




your car weighs over 3000 lbs?....sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssso

thats your choice. you spent all the money to add a supercharger, if you wanted all stereo you wouldnt have the supercharger really. but if you wanted it to bring it back up to speed...ok.... but why are you always bragging about your times,and saying "i could take the belt off and run 14;s" and such...


in your post you said

Quote:

Bottom line, the car is built for stereo competition not for racing.........alot of the reason I got the charger was to get the car back to stock speed


but then earlier said a few weeks ago......

Quote:

Got the clutch and flywheel, got the MSD working, got the big brake kit, got the supercharger. Only thing I failed to accomplish was finishing the fuel system for the supercharger and getting some drag radials. No big deal just means I won't be racing. That will probably disappoint some others more than it will me. I know racing the car would not be a good call.


plans drag radials on a car meant for stero?!

its starting to seem, when it runs good, you are all over it... when it runs slow, its a sound car...

not to mention at many sinisterj;s meets and even around donovan at the bash last you were kinda fed up with audio for a bit and pledged to be S/C by next year, which you reached your goal, congrats.... but for a good stretch of time you put stereo on the back burner...


hell heres a few more quotes from you...


Quote:

There is one hope that might work though. I could pull the o2 sensor and that might richen me up like I was before I fixed it, I could also run the msd or the stock ignition if I was a little richer. Traction would still be a problem but maybe with a softer launch I might still be able to crack a low 15. I still have a personal best of 15.7 to break. I must admit I'd be disappointed in nothing less than 14s but with what I have to work with I dont think its attainable right now


Quote:

I ran 15.7 almost 2 years ago with just an intake and throttle body. I know the car is much faster now. People must seriously be insane to think that my car will run consistant 16s. I'd smash any car running 15s or 16s with little effort.


i know when you ran that 16.1 you stripped the car purposefully JUST to run at the track... you said you couldnt get traction, but thats mostly driver or car setup.



Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:39 PM
i havent gotten below a 2.4 60 ft time for over 2 years thats a good part of why it wont run at a strip very well, hell ive even launched from 1500 and it slipped, my ideas have swayed back and forth about what i want to do with the car (even getting rid of it)



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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:43 PM
ok, well that comes down to the driver....

its like i want to get better in pro wrestling. i dont sit around and think....should i do this, or go back to semi pro football....

i make the effort to find a training center and train. only way you get better is to train.



Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:12 PM
I LOVE my OHV. I thought about putting a LD9 or L61 in it, but decided that I'd rather stay with the underdog. I love my OHV. That is all, carry on....



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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:22 PM
SunCavi_L61T3/T04E wrote:All I need is another year with this motor. lol
I have ALMOST used up one right now about 2-3 months shy off it.
Thanks for props./


And you will still lose to the OHV

You get no respect b/c you don't deserve it, you come on here thinking you are Gods gift to J-bodies b/c you did this or that

I NEVER brag about my set-up or what I MIGHT run

But I now I am going to, I will own your ass so bad next year it won't be funnny, and whats even worse is mine will be a show car too, full interior, full body kit, etc

And don't go into the blah blah of Ive put so much into my motor............

I did it right the FIRST time, you have gone through how many motors, how many nitrous set ups, how many turbo setups?????

Shut your mouth, you are arrogant and thats why I noone but your "peeps in da souf" respect you

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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:34 PM
Rodimus Prime wrote:i havent gotten below a 2.4 60 ft time for over 2 years thats a good part of why it wont run at a strip very well, hell ive even launched from 1500 and it slipped, my ideas have swayed back and forth about what i want to do with the car (even getting rid of it)



Rodimus, now for the record, i have no problem with you, never have, and hopefully never will. But that 60' time is horrendous. I know ecos that do better than that stock, and none of the base supercharger kits available right now are capable of being THAT uncontrollable off the line, even with stock tires. My car makes at least 200 whp, and i can cut 2.0 60' times on the bone stock RSA tires. The same ones that come stock on LS sport cavs, only mine aren't as wide. You need to try adjusting either your tire pressure, your launch strategy, or most likely both.

And seriously, who races with a huge stereo system in? Everyone i know who has sub boxes takes them out at the track. Hell, i'll leave all seats but the driver out of my car. If you're going to race and then not want people to talk smack, you can't be racing half-assed. You wouldn't show up to a track meet wearing a medicine ball chained to your ankle, would you? I mean if you want the best of both worlds, then fine, but don't expect to excel in racing if thats the case. Not without a buttload more money into that drivetrain at least.




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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:35 PM
SunCavi_L61T3/T04E wrote:I am OWNED???Since when is 13.6 for ONLY LN2 close to 13.1 Cocky OHV owners.

My 2.2 ohv's 1/8th mile time is faster than your Eco's 1/8th mile.
My 8.4 to your 8.6






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13.2 @ 108 mph
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Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:00 PM
RoboGeek wrote:Here...

You wanna see a N/A 2.2 thats bored, custom cam, 14.7:1 and 348 HP on methanol?
Its dry sumped, Hilborn injected and every bit as cool as it looks..



No, its not falling out. Thats leaned over for weight transfer...
Amazingly the stock mount bosses still exist. Its almost a bolt in for a street car.

And yes.. that is at Jacksonville..

RoboGeek, is that 2.2 using the stock crank and main caps? Do you know which cly head he is using, the 94-97 or the 98-02 head? That is pretty f*cking impressive for a all motor 2.2 ohv!!!!!!!! Gotta love the methanol

01sunfire wrote:

thats my friends 96 2.2 in has cav. all motor work not turbo or anything over 300 hp

Are you saying that Joe Alemida's car put down over 300hp on motor? If so, you are wrong. He didnt put down anywhere near 300hp on motor. I think he put down numbers in the mid 200's on nitrous tho.






275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:24 PM
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:and none of the base supercharger kits available right now are capable of being THAT uncontrollable off the line, even with stock tires.


very good point...
didnt rsm make the statement that their car is setup up for autoX which is part the reason the boost is in the upper rpm range...

(aside from the fact that roots usually hit boost faster from what i;ve learend over the centrifs)

you really shouldnt have that much wheel spin off the line from power.



Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:44 PM
pssshrods

I can't wait to be ripping around with my built 2.2, I have enough fun as it is with bolt ons.






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Re: Wah
Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:45 PM
^^^ You'll see on centrifugal dynos that the power increase is basically a duplicat of the original hp curve, but as if it was copied and tilted on a steeper angle... the majority of the power gain isn't realized til above 4500 rpm.


My guess is that Rodimus is probably just revving up and then dumping the clutch, which is a great launch strategy..... if you're on full slicks running 6 psi of pressure in them.

ON any kind of street tire, you need to let the clutch out slow enough where you don't spin, and fast enough where you don't bog. AND you have to do basically the same thing with the gas pedal at the same time. But anyway this is getting vastly off topic.




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Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:31 PM
Adler wrote:
RoboGeek wrote:Here...

You wanna see a N/A 2.2 thats bored, custom cam, 14.7:1 and 348 HP on methanol?
Its dry sumped, Hilborn injected and every bit as cool as it looks..



No, its not falling out. Thats leaned over for weight transfer...
Amazingly the stock mount bosses still exist. Its almost a bolt in for a street car.

And yes.. that is at Jacksonville..

RoboGeek, is that 2.2 using the stock crank and main caps? Do you know which cly head he is using, the 94-97 or the 98-02 head? That is pretty f*cking impressive for a all motor 2.2 ohv!!!!!!!! Gotta love the methanol

01sunfire wrote:

thats my friends 96 2.2 in has cav. all motor work not turbo or anything over 300 hp

Are you saying that Joe Alemida's car put down over 300hp on motor? If so, you are wrong. He didnt put down anywhere near 300hp on motor. I think he put down numbers in the mid 200's on nitrous tho.


Actually, thats a Pontac SuperDuty Four. It's a race version of the Pontiac 2.5L "Iron Duke." It is a 2.2L destroked engine, with a 2 valve OHV confguration. 348HP is also kind of conservative for the HP rating. These same motors used to power the NASCAR Goody's Dash Series cars(@2650lbs) at Daytona to 165+ MPH, with a 2 bbl carb and a restrictor plate using 107 octane race gas.





Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:36 PM
^^^^The Dash motors were make over 300HP with only 12:1 CR. These are the motors that got me interested in building my 2.2L.





Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:48 PM
take off the supercharger belt and run 14;s
I really hate ti bring this up again, but why don't take off the belt and sell the supercharger. Or would it have to be there for encourgement. I mean seriously man, do you really beleive the things that come out of your mouth or do you do it for attention. I don't want to make this post about you but untill you actually learn how physics work with a car or can actually prove your not a dumbass when it comes to cars please don't post your opions about anything car related. I like you when I talk to you in person for the most part but you say alot of things that make me feel like everyone's intelligence in the world goes down just hearing it.



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Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:09 PM
While I'm currently running an OHV and I love it for what it is, I will most likely be swapping in the Eco in about a year. It's not a knock on the OHV, as I feel that it is a good engine, but the Eco is newer and there is more support for it.
Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:51 PM
thats the motor the kid showed me i never saw it in person so he could have been makeing everything up. i no he had the cav i saw a pic of that put never saw it run or anything just storys on how fast it was and that it was all motor. thats the pic he sent me. so i dont know



Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:26 PM
My car is kinda fast......I love my 2.2.....errr....does boring the block make it a 2.3??
anywho....Nitrous soon to come!

The 2.2 was build so long because it's reliable....bought my fire in 95 brand new and through the harsh life she has lived the only really bad thing was blowing the stock clutch....along with a few pushrods after the head upgrade.

Few more bugs and she's cherry!!




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Re: OHV owners UNITE
Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:32 PM
Iceberg 2.2 wrote:does boring the block make it a 2.3??


You can bore your block to make it a 2.3 but it won't actually make it into an actual 2.3 HO motor.



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