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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Saturday, September 03, 2005 7:30 AM
here you go NJ,

http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/PartDetails.php?partId=302&catId=302&catName=JP0302

BTW nice job on the sticky



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 05, 2005 2:06 AM
Xian G wrote:

ok that came out like crap I had columns made with each price in a column, 1 for dealer and 1 for parts direct


Can you give me a link to list on here?



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 05, 2005 2:06 AM
Xian G wrote:

ok that came out like crap I had columns made with each price in a column, 1 for dealer and 1 for parts direct


I mean a link for the LSJ parts as far as where people can buy them...



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 05, 2005 8:16 AM
I thought I posted this information on the org, but I just have it on ecotecpower.com. I made a list of all the Cam options for the ecotec. You can add it to the cam info above, or just use this link....

http://www.ecotecpower.com/forums/read.php?f=4&i=2325&t=2325





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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 05, 2005 8:20 AM
Great write-up btw, thanks.


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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 05, 2005 1:46 PM
Influx wrote:

I thought I posted this information on the org, but I just have it on ecotecpower.com. I made a list of all the Cam options for the ecotec. You can add it to the cam info above, or just use this link....

http://www.ecotecpower.com/forums/read.php?f=4&i=2325&t=2325


Good info. I'll add the RSM one...I don't think I want to list the LZM Cams & Mantapart ones because of 1. LZM Camshaft issues 2. Mantapart, you might not get your parts LOL

Thank you for the compliment...I'm still working on revising this build guide with a new section that will help alot... I'll post when it's updated.



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:18 AM
UPDATE!:

Ok everyone, I just had the thread updated.

I added 2 new sections called "ECOTEC Upgrades" which features the 2002 Fuel System Upgrade trick and Auto to Manual Tranny swap and the "NJHKs Tips" section which can be very helpful...the tips I give are from personal experience.

I also updated the "Head Packages" section.

I will be digging up more information that I can add like Limited Slips and Axles and where to purchase them.

Influx, I didn't add the RSM one cause it's not on their catalog anymore, they probably stopped making it...

Hope you guys enjoy the new info.



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:55 AM
Sorry NJHK for the delay. I would give you a link, but I was copying them from the parts catalog at my work, Saturn.
Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:40 AM
Xian G wrote:

Sorry NJHK for the delay. I would give you a link, but I was copying them from the parts catalog at my work, Saturn.


It's ok.



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:42 AM
UPDATE!:

I updated the Motor Mount section with install instructions

I added a "Drivetrain" section with LSDs & Axles.

I updated the Camshaft section with Install Instructions

and added a "Build your own turbo kit" section



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:18 PM
great info honda killa!.. ;D



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:45 AM
Perhaps with all this spare time you have. You might do an ecotec swap sticky. Including parts need for swap, aAnd maybe a trans. swap part list?
Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Friday, September 09, 2005 7:23 PM
I might be able to get a few more Torque Converter to list, if some one has a stock one available. Look on the TC for a 4 letter/number code, beginning with F and ending with B(i.e. F ? ? B).
These would be stock replacements, so they would only be good for mildly modded (N/A) cars. I do know they use either a Carbon Fiber or Woven Graphite clutch, so the choices are very limited, but I'll see what I can find.





Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Friday, September 09, 2005 9:19 PM
don't leave this behind

This is info I got when I talked with CompCams, they are established, and well known in the business. these camshaft are not listed on their web site.

Quote:


as promised here is the information for the grinds from Comp Cams. I got more information than I really expected. they have four different grinds, street, street strip, blower, and turbo. I'm pretty sure these are in order of how aggressive they are. I did not ask about codes but I will include more contact info later in the post.

Street 113200 set (113201 int / 113202 exh ) grind # ECO XE252HR-11

Grind Specs 8758/8759 HR111

INT
Max Gross Lift: .423
Cam Lobe Lift: .250
Advertised Duration: 252
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 210
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: BTDC: -5
BBDC: 38

EXH
Max Gross Lift: .419
Cam Lobe Lift: .248
Advertised Duration: 256
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 212
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: ATDC: -6
ABDC: 38
These specs are for the cams installed at the following maximum lift centerlines: INT:110 EXH: 112


Street /Strip 113300 set 113301 INT/113302 EXH ) GRIND # ECO XE258HR-11

Grind Specs 8760/8761 HR111

INT
Max Gross Lift: .440
Cam Lobe Lift: .260
Advertised Duration: 258
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 216
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: BTDC: -2
BBDC: 41

EXH
Max Gross Lift: .436
Cam Lobe Lift: 258
Advertised Duration: 262
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 218
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: ATDC: -3
ABDC: 38

These specs are for the cams installed at the following maximum lift centerlines: INT:110 EXH: 112


Blower/Super Charger 113250 (113251 INT/ 113252 EXH) GRIND # ECO XE252BHR-13

Grind Specs 8758/8761 HR113

INT
Max Gross Lift: .423
Cam Lobe Lift: .250
Advertised Duration: 252
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 210
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: BTDC: -7
BBDC: 43

EXH
Max Gross Lift: .436
Cam Lobe Lift: .258
Advertised Duration: 262
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 218
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: ATDC: -5
ABDC: 37

These specs are for the cams installed at the following maximum lift centerlines: INT:112 EXH: 114


Turbo 113150 SET (113151 INT/113152 EXH ) Grind # ECO XE246THR-13

Grind Specs 8756/8755 HR113

INT
Max Gross Lift: .423
Cam Lobe Lift: .250
Advertised Duration: 248
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 204
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: BTDC: -10
BBDC: 34

EXH
Max Gross Lift: .419
Cam Lobe Lift: .248
Advertised Duration: 244
Duration @ 0.50 Valve Lift: 200
Valve Timing @
0.50 Valve Lift: ATDC: -14
ABDC: 34

These specs are for the cams installed at the following maximum lift centerlines: INT: 112 EXH: 114

Below is an explanation of how to read this and what everything means. and yes this IS the short version. Camshafts are a critical component of you valve-train. if you go with / ask for the wrong thing, you could end up with a poorly running engine, instead of a beast.





Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:17 AM
I called Comp Cams for prices on those... From Comp Cams themselves, they run $480.00 for any of the pairs. They also said that Summit Racing & Jegs should sell them, but I couldn't find any listing on either site.
Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:36 PM
Cinny sent me diagrams of the ECOTEC motor and transmission...I'll post them as soon as I get a chance to host them on Photobucket.



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 12, 2005 5:32 PM
Awesome write up NJHK!!!

This will be very helpful since I am currently rebuilding an Eco right now.

Thanks




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13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 12, 2005 6:09 PM
ECOTEC wrote:

Awesome write up NJHK!!!

This will be very helpful since I am currently rebuilding an Eco right now.

Thanks


Thank you for the compliment.

I will update this with the diagrams soon...I just need to stop being lazy.

Good luck with the rebuild.



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 12, 2005 6:47 PM
anyone who wants electrical wiring diagrams for the Ecotec let me know by email or AIM, and I will try to find it.










Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Monday, September 12, 2005 9:34 PM
Cinny wrote:

anyone who wants electrical wiring diagrams for the Ecotec let me know by email or AIM, and I will try to find it.


Cinny when you find it, e-mail it to me (it's in registry)



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Friday, September 30, 2005 7:32 AM
I have the GM Sport Compact book on my computer. It has alot of information and Part #s about the ecotec.
Balance Shafts 88958615 $319.72 from GM parts direct
Intake Manifold 88958629 $800.86" "
Billet Rods 88958618 $875.00" "
Thats it for now.

Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Saturday, October 01, 2005 6:29 AM
GM Ecotec supercharger kit p/n: 17800003

What about piston sleeves? I've been looking, but can't seem to find any.
Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:28 PM
does anybody know why the stage 2 supercharger wont work with the automatic transmission
Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:31 PM
Gordon Westbrook wrote:

does anybody know why the stage 2 supercharger wont work with the automatic transmission


Umm damnit! I forgot...I'll try and find out...



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Re: Full ECOTEC Build Guide w/PN and Links
Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:32 PM
NJHK (Sexual Chocolate) wrote:

Gordon Westbrook wrote:

does anybody know why the stage 2 supercharger wont work with the automatic transmission


Umm damnit! I forgot...I'll try and find out...


I just found out...

Clearance issues with the blower and the transmission



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