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Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 8:51 AM
I have the GM supercharger and was wondering what header I should go with.

4-2-1 or 4-1



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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 8:59 AM
Either the Pacesetter Ceramic coated, or the DC Sports. Either one is good, if you dont mind cutting the exhaust a little you can save some $ with the pacesetter, if you want a direct bolt up get the DC Sports. We carry both @ www.TurboTechRacing.com


-Aaron
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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 9:16 AM
Turbo Tech Racing wrote:Either the Pacesetter Ceramic coated, or the DC Sports. Either one is good, if you dont mind cutting the exhaust a little you can save some $ with the pacesetter, if you want a direct bolt up get the DC Sports. We carry both @ www.TurboTechRacing.com


Did you mean the other way around. It looked from the description you have on your website that the Pacesetter is a direct bolt on and the DC sports eliminates the cat. You would have to weld if one in if you wanted to keep it. The ceramic coated pacesetter is cheaper than the DC sports as you mentioned.



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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 9:30 AM
Any kinda of F.I. you wanna get the gasses our as fast as possible.
Both designs are similar, but the 4-1 will be better for you.

Aaron,
Both headers in stock?
I wanna get in on all the exhaust stuff by the end of the week.

-M


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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 10:17 AM
Wade Jarvis wrote:
Turbo Tech Racing wrote:Either the Pacesetter Ceramic coated, or the DC Sports. Either one is good, if you dont mind cutting the exhaust a little you can save some $ with the pacesetter, if you want a direct bolt up get the DC Sports. We carry both @ www.TurboTechRacing.com


Did you mean the other way around. It looked from the description you have on your website that the Pacesetter is a direct bolt on and the DC sports eliminates the cat. You would have to weld if one in if you wanted to keep it. The ceramic coated pacesetter is cheaper than the DC sports as you mentioned.


It also states some fab required on the Pacesetter description. Which means you have to cut your stock exhaust, the DC Sports is a direct bolt on.


-Aaron
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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 10:17 AM
Mastin wrote:Any kinda of F.I. you wanna get the gasses our as fast as possible.
Both designs are similar, but the 4-1 will be better for you.

Aaron,
Both headers in stock?
I wanna get in on all the exhaust stuff by the end of the week.

-M


Mastin, Email me @ Aaron@turbotechracing.com you are interested in i will check stock and let you know.



-Aaron
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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 10:19 AM
id go with the pacesetter , i was happy with the increase it had with my 2.4 s/c







Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 11:53 AM
rk sport 4-2-1 FTW




Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 12:03 PM
z yaaaa wrote:rk sport 4-2-1 FTW

The RK Sport header costs more than the DC Sports one does from what I see...and you still have to cut in front of your stock cat and then weld the header to the cat. BS if you ask me...I wouldn't want to pay $450 for a header and still need to have something welded...and to the stock diameter cat at that.

It's such a pain that all of these exhaust products narrow to the stock size by the catalytic converter. Because of that it seems the only way to get as efficient of exhaust as possible is to go with a mostly custom setup - which is why it doesn't hardly make sense to drop the kind of change needed to buy a header like the RK Sport or DC Sports. I do like the idea of a 4-2-1 though...
Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 12:28 PM
Marcus Williams wrote:
z yaaaa wrote:rk sport 4-2-1 FTW

The RK Sport header costs more than the DC Sports one does from what I see...and you still have to cut in front of your stock cat and then weld the header to the cat. BS if you ask me...I wouldn't want to pay $450 for a header and still need to have something welded...and to the stock diameter cat at that.

It's such a pain that all of these exhaust products narrow to the stock size by the catalytic converter. Because of that it seems the only way to get as efficient of exhaust as possible is to go with a mostly custom setup - which is why it doesn't hardly make sense to drop the kind of change needed to buy a header like the RK Sport or DC Sports. I do like the idea of a 4-2-1 though...


the rk header i JUST sold wade was for $250, he got a good deal it has a reducer POS thing bolted to the collector to be able to use the stock cat... but WADE needs to buy a 3" magnaflow HFC and get it done right anyways




Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 1:25 PM
So far the problem with the dc sports one is that is gets rid of the cat. I am looking for a header I can bolt to the stock exhaust and then complete the exhaust later with a high flow cat. Right now I am building the engine and I do not have the money to do a full exhaust There are no emissions test where I live in Iowa so I do not need a cat. The only reason I would want to get rid of the cat is to put in another or a longer resonator if I did not like the sound of my full exhaust setup. As far as I know the cat quiets it down a litle anyway.

My real ? is with my setup is 4-1 better or 4-2-1



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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 1:29 PM
[quote=97trd(???™)]id go with the pacesetter , i was happy with the increase it had with my 2.4 s/c

Was the DC sports one you mention in this thread on a supercharged 2.4? I could not tell from the pics.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=2&i=321764&t=321764



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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 2:39 PM
no its on my n/a cav

but n/a i think my pacesetter made more butt power

rkcrappy's header has to many bends in it to flow enough , and it will heat up under the hood alot more than any other header for the 2/4 out there







Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 5:16 PM
z yaaaa wrote:rk sport 4-2-1 FTW

Yep, I vouche on that one. And your exhaust will have nice tone.
Also the oxygen sensor placement is well put too.

Besides, the design is similar found on the CTS-v R.







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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 5:28 PM
Yeah the sound of the RKSport one is AWESOME!



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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 5:37 PM
stans isuzu performance 4-2-1




Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 7:04 PM
Quote:

So far the problem with the dc sports one is that is gets rid of the cat. I am looking for a header I can bolt to the stock exhaust and then complete the exhaust later with a high flow cat. Right now I am building the engine and I do not have the money to do a full exhaust There are no emissions test where I live in Iowa so I do not need a cat. The only reason I would want to get rid of the cat is to put in another or a longer resonator if I did not like the sound of my full exhaust setup. As far as I know the cat quiets it down a litle anyway.


Actually, the DC Sports header comes with a flange so you can make your own section of pipe to connect the pipe. I am using now to go from 2.25" at the flange to a 3" opening at the cat




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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Monday, May 07, 2007 9:16 PM
Quote:

LAFNGAS

stans isuzu performance 4-2-1





I have one but they just cost way to much.



Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:55 AM
Paul Tjepkes (N/A MADNESS) wrote:
Quote:

LAFNGAS

stans isuzu performance 4-2-1





I have one but they just cost way to much.




x2
Id love to go with that header but way too much in price. I think like $600 for it (correct me if Im way off) but you get the idea!

I believe the 4-1 is the best way to go for a SC car.


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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:33 PM
it put down 5whp more then a rksport one, "the" best header for a 2.4 period




Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:01 PM
LAFNGAS wrote:stans isuzu performance 4-2-1



where can you get this?

Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:50 PM
LAFNGAS wrote:it put down 5whp more then a rksport one, "the" best header for a 2.4 period


can u prove this? id like to see it.....




Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:06 PM
z yaaaa wrote:
LAFNGAS wrote:it put down 5whp more then a rksport one, "the" best header for a 2.4 period


can u prove this? id like to see it.....

Agreed.... Again!
Are you basing off what the Stan's/Isuzu website says?

http://www.iperformance.biz/header/quadfour.html
http://www.iperformance.biz/dyno/header02.html
Quote:

The Dyno Shop in Louisville, Kentucky, on their DynoJet dynamometer, with the RK Sport header on October 26, 2001 and then again at the same facility on February 16, 2002, with the Iperformance header.


Because the RK Sport 4-2-1 header was not available in 2001. So the one they compared it to was the 4-1 RK Sport header.

Carry on.




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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 6:29 PM
Hmm,
Forgot about the RK Sport deal.


Jason: check your pms.

Will have to re-research the RK sport deal.

-M


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Re: Which 2.4 header should I use with GMSC
Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:30 PM
rkcrappys 4-2-1 header is still a large pile of crap

stans and dc's are alot better designs







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