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Seems like your the one bent out of shape, be it that you went and checked out my myspace.
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The truth of the matter is that all parts stores employ idiots. It's just not where the money is at so its hard to get good people who know thier ass from a hole in the ground. I ran an Autozone for about 18 months and it was the most 18 brain racking months of my life trying to fix everyone elses errors. About all of them sucking... I take slight offense, but not enough to get pissed about it, I just know the truth and that is that 5% of part store employees can usually blow you away with their knowledge and quality of service, the other 95% are there to sweep the floor and run overstock.
Now on the parts, I can promise that's not a W41 cam they're listing. I worked the hell out of the cross reference books and ran every quad car number I could find and nobody has anything bigger than an HO cam. That was probably my favorite part about being the boss during slow times, I could do whatever I wanted pretty much as long as someone else was holding down the fort.
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To share some insight on why parts stores often times have LOTS of people that have no clue.....
When I was looking to get a weekend/evening job on the side, I stopped into Advance, filled out an application, interviewed with the manager who promptly told me I was "overqualified for the position"
Personally I thought it would be GOOD to hire ASE certified techs with a few years working expirience....guess not....
.JerseyKid. wrote:Tinkles wrote:JerseyKid, im still waiting on those part numbers.
Hmmm born in 88' and is a college grad? It does seem like we have a know it all here.
Wait but your myspace says that your still in college, which is it? Im confused. 
BTW if you DO work for Mercedes, then y do you take offence to my opinion?
If i should be going back and forth with someone, it should be Luis, but he sounds like the 10% of Autozone employees that actually know what they are preaching. I wish he would move to my town so when i did go in there i wouldnt lose my mind.
Haha. Please, the 5 year old car jokes weren't worth responding too. Nice originality. 
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I went to Technical College, want a picture of my degrees? I haven't updated my myspace, because i couldn't careless about it. And who said i took offense to your opinion?
I didn't at all, i was just making a point.
You have not been all to the autozone's so it was pretty stupid to categorize everyone like that, i know a few kids that work at the local autozone, that would have been able to help the original posters questions.
::yawn::
I graduated technical school already too, and i was born in '88. And now im already one year into my computer science degree, at an actual college.
I'm back from the dead.
Currently Driving: RSX Type-S.
My Cavalier Burnt up :-(
Eh i dont update mine either. Bent outta shape? alittle. But he!! its been something that been buggin me for years. Also people tellin me about myself is one of my beggest pet pevs, so that didnt help.
Yea i know i changed my tone and yea i admit defeat.
As for tech school/college. Im not sure what u guys define as college but i see is as graduating12 yrs of highschool then attending a higher education institution. As for myself i did the whole highschool thing, but for my last 3 yrs i moved from the general eduaction everyone gets and went to the tech part of our school and did the automotive crap.
F^ck i need a ladder to get out of this hole.
It's what I tell all my customers that come through the door, don't trust our website. Starts more shouting matches than is helpful.
I can understand a parts store like autozone not knowing what I'm talking about, and having to have me help them find the exact part I want because there is a good chance that they don't know the ins and out of my specific car..... especially if I need something a little strange because my car is modded....
but......
When they get all snoody with me and tell me I'm wrong.... and say things like "that wont work" or "you cant to that like your saying" ... I start gettin pissed off.. Another thing that pisses me off is when they find out my Sunfire has a 4-cylinder in it and the roll thier eyes at me and look down thier nose..... besides..... the should already know that.... I wen't to car quest and asked them if they have a timing chain for a 1997 Cavelier Z24..... they asked if it had a 3800 in it
.... I was like @!#$ no.... it's got a 2.4 are you on crack or something...... He gave me an obviouse look that basically said "why the hell are you even working on that car" ...... damn it took everything I had not to tell him off and fill him in on the fact my car would smoke his pickup truck like it was sitting still and start cursing at him..... but I already had problems with the particular person in the past...
Basically.... if they actually try to help you.... and remember your the customer and are curtiouse..... and just give you the damn part you want... I can deal with some stupidity...
hmmmmm....... I've shopped at Advance, Car Quest, Autozone, Murrays, etc. and I don't recall ever having trouble with any of the employees. I occasionally have to guide them through their database to speed up the process, and I make sure to look at the picture it displays (if available) to ensure it's the right part. You guys must have some real crazy bastards by you to not want to sell you a part you specifically asked for, lol.
...Or maybe it's because I never tell them that I really don't have a 92' Beretta GTZ.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Luis Marroquin wrote:I work for autozone and usually find it the other way around, people that come in have no F'ing clue what they are talking about. I think alot of the times it depends where your located. I go to college in a small town where all of the people here make less than i do as a full time student working part time, and are complete idiots. As far as our database goes, yes you ALWAYS have to go through vehicle specification because thats how the parts are listed. Cross referencing on our system is a shot in the dark most of the times! Oreillys has a better system then autozone and i have worked for both, so i dont think that Tinkles you should categorize all employees like that even though most of the times its usually 16 kids that dont know working. I personally hate the job to tell you the truth and most times i help someone they are trying to mod something so i have to basically get an explanation so that i can help them better instead of guessing and throwing parts at the guy. When people come in with part numbers and specific parts then its cake and they go on their way! thats my .02.
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LOL i just to be a manager for autozone and i hear you on the people that they hire they dont know crap about cars, then they hire store managers with no auto and or autoparts experience what so ever and insted of them giving me the position to be a store manager they made me teach the new store manager how to do the job, also another reason why i left autozone it was because i was sick of all the customers comming to me cause they knew i knew about cars and the rest of the employees didnt do @!#$, it was so bad that i would go on lunch and customers would wait till i came back from lunch for me if i wasnt there.
About the autozone system for looking up parts its actually very easy and you can find alot of info and parts on there you just have to know how to use it, also i bet you didnt know you can also order FLASHED ECUs with the supercharger reflash done to them brand new for 130 bucks, see all you have to do its know the system.
Before anybody ask how can you order a flashed computer from autozone, well here is the answer: everyone that gets the gm reflash done on their car, the reflash stays stored under the vin of the car that it was done so basicly that vin has the history on what that computer does now, so if you can get the vin from someone who have the flash done to their car all you need to do is go to autozone have the sales person look up a computer for a 00 J and he has to call the cardone tech line and give them the model, year and vin number and thats it, once you get it, then all you have to do is do the passlock deal and there brand new computer with the reflash.
i cant belive no body thought of this on here, such an easy answer cause if you think about it what about when your computer goes bad? well you dont have to go to the dealer, just order one from the autoparts store with your vin number and there flash and ecu all in one.
Not all the people that works at autozone are that stupied
as for the cams, well there is really not that much difference between the 2 cams plus remember to upgrade everything else along with the swap so you can use them to their full potencial. here is the cam specs
HO: .410" lift 212* duration
W41: .410" lift 218* duration
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ok......that ordering a reflashed ecm using someone elses vin doesnt make any sense
if i reflashed my car...... me or the person that did it for me are the only ones that know .......... theres not some huge database out there that keeps track of all the tuning thats done to every car on the planet
Weebel if someone gets the flash done by the dealer it wil change the vin on that car so trust me on this, call gary and have him give you my number and ill explain how you do this. I sat at the dealer with one of the techs and looked all this up, if my computer ever goes bad all i have to do is go to an autoparts store and order a new one for my car with the vin from the ecu that was put on my car, not by the vin thats on the car, then since that computer was flashed by the dealer the vin from that computer is saved as that computer its for a supercharged car, so when you go somewhere and order a computer for that car and you give them the vin from that computer you have on your car now that is boosted the people that you order the computer from now have to program that computer that you are buying with the vin that you gave them for that ECU.
Anyways call me and ill explain more( plus my 99 grand am was reflashed) and all i had to do was put a 00 computer that was it ill explain that one also i dont want to ruin the guys post.
Also i bet you didnt know you can flash a 97 with the GMSR, i bet alot of people when they see this now are going to be like how do you do that its imposible, lol well cavaliers are not the only cars with the 2.4.
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I don't know why you wouldn't use the same Vin number though.... that just seems like more work than it's worth.... but compaines do stupid crap all the time I guess..
So aperently your saying that all the GM dealerships store that type if information in a shared database that parts stores have access to then..... thats kinda creepy.
Ok weebel...... this is not that hard at all, i sent you a messege, get back at me and i will explain ok.
Also a vin number its like the social security card for cars, anything that has been done to that vehicle from let say, recalls accidents, color change, type of engine, owners ..........etc etc........ can be found or known by the vin number, so if you go to the dealer and reflash your car, lets say you have a 00 sunfire for example, when you go there to get the flash done they will check the vin number to make sure that your car is a 00, then if they are a smart dealership they will also connect the tec2 to your car and verify that the computer has the same vin number, now from this point he goes and connects the tec2 to the computer at the shop once everything checks out and the reflash can be done to your car. Ok now that thats all set and done, this is when he goes and calls the GM tech line to get the approval or ( vci number for the reflash ). once he calls he has to give them the vin number so that they can verify that it is the right year for the program, once Ok'd then the GM tech line people will send the vic number for your application ( wheter is an automatic or a 5 speed ) to the dealership so that the dealership can download it into the tech2 so that they can start the flash, once flashed you are done.
Ok now here is what they do at the gm tech line, the reason they ask for the vin is so that they can keep records and update the records of that vehicle, the reflash is an update to your car so anything that your vin used to say like ( 2.4L ld9 auto bla.. bla ..bla... it will say now 2.4 ld9 supercharged auto bla ..bla ..bla) now your car vin will say all this stuff plus since its an update to your car this will be recorded for any other company that you may want to go and get parts from , what your car has now.
So if your computer in your car ever goes bad now, all you have to do is go to an autoparts store and tell them you need a computer for your car and the ONCE THEY FIND YOUR COMPUTER ON THEIR SCREEN THERE WILL BE A NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE TO CALL IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET THE COMPUTER FOR YOU BECAUSE THEY DONT JUST STOCK A COMPUTER FOR ANY NEWER CARS, SO ONCE THEY CALL THAT NUMBER THEY ARE GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR VIN NUMBER, ONCE YOU GIVE THEM YOUR VIN NUMBER THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT YOUR CAR HAS BEEN FLASHED SO IN THAT ORDER THEY WILL HAVE TO GET YOU THE SAME PROGRAM YOU HAVE IN YOUR CAR NOW, ( GMSR ) AND SEND YOU A COMPUTER THAT WORKS FOR YOU APPLICATION.(...... FLASHED ECU.......)
Sorry for the caps but it was they point i want it to get across, anyways on this note now lets say you have another 00 sunfire and you want the supercharger reflash done to it , you dont have to go trhu the hassel of going to the dealership to get it flashed, all you have to do is go to the autoparts store and get a computer for your other ( flashed sunfire ) and once you get that computer all you have to do is install it on the sunfire and do the passlock relearn and there you just have another sunfire with the GMSR.
This is a great way for people to do when they dont have access to a dealership or the dealership dont know what the hell they are doing, all you would need will be a VIN number from anybody with the same plat form of your car and has the reflash done and like i said above give them the vin number from that car and you will get the computer , very simple , so for people from canada this would be something they can do if they cant get it done at the dealership or have a hard time finding someone that can do it.
00-02 gmsr + 00-02 jbody / passlock realearn=
I hope this wasnt that to hard to understand cause im not doing this again..........
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I treat all autoparts employees as idiots, as the true stars who do deserve a much better chunk of life always make themselves stand out (in a good way).
Then I get chatty with them, and don't look at me clueless when I want '99 strut bearing plates instead of '02 plates, and instead ask me a VALID question (Q: Were they a better design?) instead of arguing me for eternity over why I want "older" parts in my "newer" car (goddam Canadian Tire).
Seek your local "good ones" out. They're there, you just have to find them.
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2002 Sunfire -->
- Ractive steering wheel
- ASA 17" EM9 + Nexen N5000 215/45/17 (steelies for winter)
- D-Spec Lowering kit @ 1.4" (issues currently
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- Rockford P250.1 + MTX MZS1004 + Panasonic CQ-C8313U head unit
- Barely legal tint.
Tinkles wrote:JerseyKid, im still waiting on those part numbers.
Hmmm born in 88' and is a college grad? It does seem like we have a know it all here.
Wait but your myspace says that your still in college, which is it? Im confused.
BTW if you DO work for Mercedes, then y do you take offence to my opinion?
If i should be going back and forth with someone, it should be Luis, but he sounds like the 10% of Autozone employees that actually know what they are preaching. I wish he would move to my town so when i did go in there i wouldnt lose my mind.
who's stocking who?
Thrice . wrote:haaha..Part Source employee's in Canada aren't much brighter.
so are most of the people on this forum. why would you expect people not on the internet to know any better? people will always go by what they either
a) know from first hand expirience
b) have been told and have never argued
c) what they think they know or have read on a forum
I have had very little problems with part source employees. i have been to a few of them and there is one i go to regularly because of the service i get from them.
firemachine69 wrote:I treat all autoparts employees as idiots, as the true stars who do deserve a much better chunk of life always make themselves stand out (in a good way).
Then I get chatty with them, and don't look at me clueless when I want '99 strut bearing plates instead of '02 plates, and instead ask me a VALID question (Q: Were they a better design?) instead of arguing me for eternity over why I want "older" parts in my "newer" car (goddam Canadian Tire).
Seek your local "good ones" out. They're there, you just have to find them.
Amen to that!
1997 RedR - ZedR
Rule No.1: Always talk to the oldest guy that works there that speaks english with the clearest of American accents as possible. They will always know what you're talking about & looking for.
Rule No.2: Don't mess with the kid unless you want something trendy, late-model relative or have what you want and are ready to checkout.
It don't get any plainer than that regradless what parts store you're shopping at.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Nickelin Dimer wrote:Rule No.1: Always talk to the oldest guy that works there that speaks english with the clearest of American accents as possible. They will always know what you're talking about & looking for.
Rule No.2: Don't mess with the kid unless you want something trendy, late-model relative or have what you want and are ready to checkout.
It don't get any plainer than that regradless what parts store you're shopping at.
Its almost exactly the other way around where I live...... the old guy doesn't know crap about cars (but is friendly), there is a younger guy thier that has a modified WRX that will actually help me find what I wan't because he's into modding too... although he doesn't know much about my car, then there is this middle age woman that cant help but to give you a hard time.... then eveyone else falls into your "average" catagory....
Personally... I like to go to Napa in town..... they have a huge warehouse here and there is this younger guy that will actually let me stand behind the counter with him so we can fiqure out what I need... plus I've never gotton a wrong part from them..... the only reason I ever go to Autozone is when they have something Napa doesn't or they are a bit cheaper..
Don't even get me started on those bastards at Car Quest here in town again...
