Bob Guptill wrote:why metal? id use like a water cut plastic or something like some of the intake spacers made for cars

Good thinking. Something like nylon would be nice and light.
Madjack probably wants to see an oak spacer




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OHV notec wrote:

Bob Guptill wrote:why metal? id use like a water cut plastic or something like some of the intake spacers made for cars

Good thinking. Something like nylon would be nice and light.
Madjack probably wants to see an oak spacer

oh sweet jesus, lol

I was going to ask the same, why not aluminum. It's not under any great load, it won't rust and it'll match the head and/or the valve cover. If you're only raising the valve train 0.100", then 1/8" should be plenty tall enough, unless you're going to put a groove in the rail for another gasket.


John, I think I found you spring, Crane 37830-16, for Ford 4.6 &5.4L 2 valve V-8. I looked at the mild taper going up the spring and the diameter of the top, it is a single spring and looks close to the same height, so I decided to check their catalog and found this spring. The specs are as follows:
O.D top: 0.967", bottom 1.096"
I.D. top: 0.636", bottom 0.765"
Seat pressure: 85 lbs @ 1.640" (96 lbs @ 1.600" as on the 2200)
Open Pressure: 250 lbs @ 1.040"
Coil bind: 1.000"
Rate: 275 lbs/in.
Max Lift: 0.620" (0.580" on the 2200)

Damn, I wish I had looked at the latest Crane Cams Catalog before now. It's been a couple of years since I checked out their catalog and the latest is dated last year. I don't know what the OD of the valve guide is above the spring seat. I've been looking into everyone elses Ford Modular Motor springs and they either didn't come close to fitting (too tall or too short) or were too light of a rate.

Jason, if you still have access to that head, could you measure the guides above the spring seat, these springs just might fit without machine work.

Phil, see what I mean about discovering stuff. Once you think you get something figured out, something else comes along and like me it's after you started buying parts!

So now it looks like we have the Comp Cams 26981 springs for the 2.2L OHV and possibly the Crane Cams 37830 spring for the 2200(pending fitment testing/ measurements).

John Benham wrote:

OHV notec wrote:

Bob Guptill wrote:why metal? id use like a water cut plastic or something like some of the intake spacers made for cars

Good thinking. Something like nylon would be nice and light.
Madjack probably wants to see an oak spacer

oh sweet jesus, lol

Nahh, the oil would soak through. But thanks foir the thought!

Count me in for a spacer too!!!

Also madjack you have a pm.

MadJack wrote:

John Benham wrote:

OHV notec wrote:

Bob Guptill wrote:why metal? id use like a water cut plastic or something like some of the intake spacers made for cars

Good thinking. Something like nylon would be nice and light.
Madjack probably wants to see an oak spacer

oh sweet jesus, lol

Nahh, the oil would soak through. But thanks foir the thought!

Maybe a highly waxed piece of oak! then the oil wouldn't soak in... lol. I can't be making jokes. I used a wood spacer on my intake manifold before too... haha. Fun times.

My post disappeared. Hmmph!

I'll take 2 please, in plastic to reduce heat transfer to the valve cover.

-->Slow

I just talked to the maching shop and they have never worked with phenlic so i dont know what else to use.

I making mine out of stainless

why is everyone worried about transfering heat to the valve cover!?

Anyway you can make them in aluminum for us that want them?

I don't what they are made of, I perfer aluminum, but I will take what i can get, also what size are these going to be?

madjack I got your PM I don't know why you did not get mine, I sent another let me know if you got it?

keep the info comeing. I too am looking at doing my valvetrain.


DRIVE HARD OR DONT DRIVE AT ALL!!!

if we were on a honda forum everyone would want them made out of duct tape haha

Phil Lindsay wrote:why is everyone worried about transfering heat to the valve cover!?

So I won't keep burning myself while working on it lol. I'd prefer nylon for the low weight and cost, but aluminum would be second.




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The valve cover radiates heat to any part directly above it. On most engines, it's the intake manifold. And anything that helps reduce underhood temps is a good thing.

You're aware of the distinct possibility of galvanic action between the stainless spacer and aluminum valve cover damaging the cover? It's more likely in areas with a lot of humidity and / or more road salt.

-->Slow

Ehh, just use red oak and some polyurethane!

im interested to see how the gasket is dealt with.....especially on such a thin spacer. does anyone know how deep the facory groove is?

Well I could do aluminum, then fuse it to the inside of the head, then the stock gasket could be used!

how soon could you get these done?

I HAVE THE DESIGN DONE, JUST WAITING FOR TAXES TO GET THE MONEY.

Show design plz??!!

Its on my home computer, so if I remember tonight I will bring it to work an upload it!

What is it done in??

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Well I could do aluminum, then fuse it to the inside of the head, then the stock gasket could be used!

Why not machine a groove in the spacer like in the cover then use a 2nd gasket?

-->Slow

i'm WAY more interested in what we might be able to use for springs...been looking for some, and the comp cams springs would be great...when will you guys know if they will work?