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Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:04 AM
Hey everybody! Newbie here, glad to be a part of the community!

I have a '93 Z-24 and I was wondering if there are any huge problems with swapping my stock 3.1L out to a Supercharged Series I Buick motor?

My computer will run it as long as I ditch the MAF system and put in a 2-bar MAP.

Are there fitment issues other than fabbing up a couple mounts?


Thank you for your time and expertise!

Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwrIDJghl9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kljLLRwcHCE

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Tuesday, May 06, 2014 6:36 AM
So...basically no good reason!

Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:29 AM
Just couldnt find anything else about it, go for it if you want.

Found a 11 second Fiero running one, so it has to fly IMO.......................

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Friday, May 09, 2014 9:22 PM
Do it. And use an AWD Pontiac transmission. I've see it done in a Sunbird before with a series II.



Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:56 AM
god that has to be a beast. making AWD would eliminate traction problems. what pontiac AWD transmission are you referring to? as in Pontiac 6000 STE, those have to be rare by now. how do you make the rear drivetrain work, you have to somehow mount CV axles and all related hardware. that has to be some major modifications, but you would have a one of a kind sleeper. subarus would never see you coming lol

they should have made a factory freak Jbody. that would have been cool. it could have been a limited production special edition
Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Monday, October 13, 2014 5:37 AM
I agree! It would have been a great tech. demonstrator!

I'm gonna do it. It's been hectic lately so all I have done is procure a series 1 L67 from a junkyard.

At the least, I will get a limited slip for my transaxle.

Any suggestions? The only one I know of is here...
http://www.engineered.net/eplsd.htm

Thanks!
Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:25 AM
Or use an insert. TeamGreen is the best bang for the buck.



Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:30 PM
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=383500&t=383500
OR...
http://importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-chevy.html

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: Why not do a S1 L67 swap?
Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:29 AM
Well I have done this swap using a 3800 series 2 na, a 5 speed from a lumina z34, a turned down flywheel from a camaro, a reworked camaro wiring harness and ecm, I also modded but he front motor mount from a 3.3L Buick century.

This was a very fun car to drive, but traction under full throttle was almost non existent, and there was a bit more understeer to deal with.
Ran 8.90 in the 1/8th mile on drag radials on a soft take off.

So this is a very doable, and very fun project, just be prepared to do a little fab work and mix match of parts.

Also your ecm will have to be tuned to run that engine, along with possible modifications. The 3800 is sequintial fuel injection, while i believe the 3.1 may be batch fire.
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