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14" Steel Wheel Center Caps
Thursday, March 19, 2015 11:22 AM
I have these Steel wheels with hubcaps, http://www.wheelsandcaps.com/p-23389-steel-wheel-rim-14x6-8011.aspx

I'm wondering if these would fit in the center , http://www.ebay.com/itm/151364980269?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#ht_539wt_896

I currently have the lug nuts that hold on the hubcap and wheel and a black plastic cap screws on to them.

I guess the center caps fit a 87 Fiero and other models............................

Thanks, Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!





Re: 14
Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:06 AM
Well I just looked up/Googled "1983 Fiero steel wheel" and the Fiero's wheel didn't appear to be the same as the one you but in the box above... :-(

BUT it does appear the eBay seller offers Hassle Free Returns! so I mean hey maybe its just worth a shot? But yeah the wheels I found weren't the same as what you posted above, so I'd be skeptical how well they might fit.
Re: 14
Sunday, March 22, 2015 5:27 PM
The caps are ending on Ebay so I posted the pic instead.

I dont think the center part of the wheel changed from the first gen to the second and the lug nuts should hold them on if not .....the black screw on caps should.

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:05 PM
this parts diagram CENTRIC Part # 12162018 located here https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php under this listing 1985 PONTIAC FIERO 2.5L 151cid L4 : Brake/Wheel Hub : Rotor says that PONTIAC FIERO (1984 - 1987) uses a
5 x 3.94 = 5 x100 mm bolt pattern. With the flanged lug nut on our cavy's . that center cap isn't going any where,and the lug nut will really bring'em out. Your 92 sunny will you love for it,enjoy
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Re: 14
Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:21 AM
Orlen is going to grab for me the First Gen center caps on the red Cavy he is going to pick if they are still available when goes to the yard.

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Sunday, June 21, 2015 8:31 PM
Well here is some solid proof that these caps will in fact bolt up if anyone is interested in using them.

There are 2 styles that fit one is Chevy and the other is Pontiac.

I recommend using the 1st gen lug nuts with the chrome Chevy cap, it fits the metal backing plate safer.




On the Pontiac Cap I recommend using the 3rd gen lug nut with the plastic screw on sudo bolt covers. Pleasing appearance and nice snug fit with no chance of falling off.



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Re: 14
Monday, June 22, 2015 11:11 AM
Thanks for the Info and taking the time to mock them up Orlen, the black Pontiac ones will do, a nice silver with a clear coat on a gloss black wheel is what I'll probally do. ( Old GM COPO or cop car look)

Doug in P.R.



92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Monday, June 22, 2015 1:41 PM
Hey, I like your way of thinking!!

Those black lug nut covers will really pop against the Silver Center Cap, and the Cap will blend in beautifully with some trim rings to boot! You got it going!!

Gotta share some photos of the progress!!



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Re: 14
Monday, June 22, 2015 5:30 PM
Here it is so far Orlen.........................

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Monday, June 22, 2015 5:35 PM
More.................... ( dont mind the mess...... house still under construction)

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Monday, June 22, 2015 7:18 PM
Sweet!!

Looks like you are going after the 1st gen GT look.

Think I have a few photos of one for inspiration:
















Keep up the Great Work!! Your J is beginning to be rather unique , kinda like my own - so if you do decide to rob a bank, DON"T make this the getaway car. They'll find you in a flash!!



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Re: 14
Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:42 PM
Yes , Orlen ,and these other 2 also......................

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:45 AM
As a logical follow up to this thread I thought it would only be fitting to give the 3rd gen standard 15" steelies a check to see "what if?"

Glad to report that these will work as well!










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Re: 14
Friday, June 26, 2015 4:14 PM
Just picked up 3 of the black Pontiac ones, need one more junky looking one for cheap................

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Thursday, July 02, 2015 11:07 AM
92Sunbird PuertoRico wrote:

Just picked up 3 of the black Pontiac ones, need one more junky looking one for cheap................

Doug in P.R.


Just picked up 2 more so I'm good.......................pics when done.

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Friday, October 16, 2015 4:30 PM
Caps are done and on, but the black plastic covers for the lug nuts are too long ,

Orlen ,do you have a part number or year the shorter ones are from?

Thanks, Doug


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Saturday, October 17, 2015 12:47 PM
92Sunbird PuertoRico wrote:

Caps are done and on, but the black plastic covers for the lug nuts are too long ,

Orlen ,do you have a part number or year the shorter ones are from?

Thanks, Doug


I found them Orlen.

I need the 29 mm ones, I have the 44 mm one. ( but found some new on RockAuto )

but probally take the cheaper way out with these Ebay covers ....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201391056565?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Sunday, October 25, 2015 2:06 PM
Here's the pics Orlen, and the Dorman site comparision. The ones I have are like Dorman 611-609 9 44 MM long ,the ones I need are like Dorman 611- 605 29mm Long

http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-18143-611-609.aspx?origin=keyword

http://www.dormanproducts.com/p-16028-611-605.aspx?origin=keyword

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Sunday, October 25, 2015 2:11 PM
More pics

I used some leftover Duck brand tailight repair tape and a silver Sharpie paint marker to make new center emblems.

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Sunday, October 25, 2015 2:14 PM
As you can see in the pic below , the 44mm ones stick out too far.

Doug in P.R.
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Re: 14
Friday, November 27, 2015 5:11 PM
Had some spare time during Turkey Holiday to play around , and some very nice weather. Put together a set of the 14's with the stock Pontiac centers. Painted them simple aluminum silver, personally pleased with the result. Wheels are sporting 185/70's












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Re: 14
Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:47 PM
Good Job Orlen, where did you get the Jetzons from? I had those on my first car ( 62 Bel Air) on the rear only ,in my old street racing grounds in Rochester Ny ( white letter of course) way back in the mid 1970's.

Friend had a wholesaler that let use bypass the middle man for tires back then.

Didnt think they still made them anymore..................................?

Doug in P.R


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 14
Monday, November 30, 2015 9:35 AM
Doug I picked those old tires up cheap at the local yard earlier this year. I've had a very hard time finding the 185/70's there. I have all different kinds of sizes and wanted to see just how well the 185's looked on here. So it is hard to tell how old they are, but they still got some tread on them and hold air so they will get some use during these sour months we have to endure. Still keeping an eye out for you some lug nut covers when I get over there - will get some more yard time after the holidays are behind us!



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Re: 14
Monday, November 30, 2015 2:42 PM
This will help you on date coding your tires Orlen..........
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=1

No hurry on the caps , take your time......I have alot of it



Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 143 K miles.Slowly getting back to a halfway decent car............in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




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