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88 Wagon Update
Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:18 PM
Here is an update on the progress I've made. Been kinda slow with getting things done, but have to get this thing back together and ready to drive.
Oh and near the end of the video I show what I found to be great rear coil spring compressors for removal and install of the springs. Works great and quite cheap. A set comes with 4 too.
https://youtu.be/UfZ4EUkFd8I

Re: 88 Wagon Update
Monday, January 13, 2020 6:16 PM
The engine is in
Ran into another mount problem. This time a filled transmission mount. Going to have to make a jig to fill these things. It will be okay, but don't think it is ideal.

Video link
https://youtu.be/3W-qIYvbU5Y
Re: 88 Wagon Update
Tuesday, January 14, 2020 9:18 AM
I'm the one that posted on both Vids , Butch

Doug in P.R.


92 Pontiac Sunbird LE, 2.0, AT, Red / Black with Grey 152K miles. Hurricane Maria Survivor ! ( It takes a licking and keeps on ticking ! ).....in Salinas, Puerto Rico!




Re: 88 Wagon Update
Friday, January 24, 2020 3:04 AM
Looking good, love these old wagons.


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Re: 88 Wagon Update
Wednesday, February 05, 2020 10:23 AM
Thanks Jeffie.

Got the dash done and ready to install.

Work done to the dash prior to dying;
https://youtu.be/187Ay9YtVgw

A video showing what I used.
https://youtu.be/F3QRiuhob8I

Dash and all other parts dyed using SEM Color Coat Medium Beechwood, followed by a couple good coats of SEM Color Coat 13013 Satin Clear aerosol can.
https://youtu.be/Z5B5MgNnWbE


Very pleased with the results. The color match is nearly perfect.
Re: 88 Wagon Update
Thursday, February 06, 2020 3:15 AM
That came out surprisingly good, better than I would have expected.


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Re: 88 Wagon Update
Thursday, February 06, 2020 4:10 PM
Jeffie @ Driving Force Fabs wrote:

That came out surprisingly good, better than I would have expected.
Honestly, I felt the same way. Really wasn't sure what it would look like. I did small pieces first and those made me feel pretty good about this stuff. When the console came out with a nice even tone, my worries about how the dash would do faded quite a bit. I was really surprised 1 pint did everything. I did thin it a little though. The sprayer is the bomb (pun intended). As long as you do everything that will require some tilting of the bottle first thing while it is good and full, there were no problems with the way it sprayed.

The dash is in the car. I'll get another video once it is out of the garage and in good sunlight. Should be by the end of the weekend.
Re: 88 Wagon Update
Friday, February 07, 2020 6:10 AM
Looking forward to it.

I'm curious how this will age hopefully it holds up well, I'd love to be able to redo some interior plastics.


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Re: 88 Wagon Update
Saturday, February 22, 2020 7:10 AM
It is all back together now!

Got it done yesterday afternoon. Drives nice, runs great and everything that should be working is working. A/C is charged and working. Still have a few things that need to be done, later on. Window sweeps, run channels and getting power windows are the main things that still need to be done. These will get added later on though. I hope to find a nice door for the passenger side front. As you'll see in the video, the place that worked on the door and fender did a really poor quality job on them. I did the paint on them and it doesn't match. But the whole car needs paint, so no big deal really.

Here is a link to the latest video where you can see it out in the sun.
https://youtu.be/o0zb6Yv-AuE
Re: 88 Wagon Update
Monday, February 24, 2020 3:04 AM
She's looking really good, it's looking all around in better shape than my 99 and you even have me beat on the A/C lol.






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Re: 88 Wagon Update
Wednesday, February 26, 2020 6:25 PM
I just got back from NC. It ran perfect, everything as it should be.
I was most impressed with the way it drives in the twisty foothills. Even though it is rather high, it turns extremely well. Not really pushing it, but at a good clip it turns flat and very precisely. The balance feels great. Very fun to drive. It does ride a bit on the harsh side though. More so than either of the Z24's, both of which are heavier cars though. The wagon has Moog front and GM wagon cargo springs rear. The 92 (which is a the heaviest) is also a little harsh but not quite as much. It has Moog springs on all corners. The 88 (which has it's original FE3 springs) is smoother riding than the other too, but still drives sporty. The 94 RS (FE2) was a plusher riding car. I really didn't like that either. And while it was lower than the other two, still did not handle as well, due to the 'floaty' feel.

Got to get on the run channels sometime before long. Just didn't have the time to do every little thing before moving. I've had some for over a year now. That will be near the top of the list of things to do, another door or not. Lots of wind noise on the passenger side where I broke most of the original channel out. Annoying, it is.
I must admit I'm pretty please with how it came out. Not perfect or anything, but nice and not too much left to take care of.

I'll try to keep them up as along as I can get parts and I'm able. The 88 coupe will probably be the next to get a refresh. It has never been completely taken apart before.

Re: 88 Wagon Update
Thursday, February 27, 2020 3:32 AM
Keep it up my man.

I remember my 92 RS being a bit of a boat as well, my 85 vert felt more planted that that thing ever did.




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Re: 88 Wagon Update
Thursday, March 05, 2020 11:31 AM
Here is a short video of the engine sound in the wagon.
https://youtu.be/twYbKT4LuR4
Re: 88 Wagon Update
Friday, March 06, 2020 3:29 AM
Sounds like it's running pretty well.


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Re: 88 Wagon Update
Saturday, March 07, 2020 5:55 AM
That was the first time it was ran up at full throttle to its shift points, since installed in the wagon. I had applied full power after getting it in and all, but only to about 4,500. The mileage on the odometer is the correct mileage for the engine/trans/exhaust.
I normally don't beat on the cars much at all. Heck they rarely even see 4,000.
Driving it up to NC was uneventful. Slight pull to the right. I'll need to get a proper alignment. I set the camber with one of those magnetic camber levels. Did the toe with string, it's off a bit though. Still was able to get 30mpg going up there.
It has a set of Bosch 4304 platinum plus plugs in it. Never used them before. I've always used ACDelco copper and have 3 or 4 sets of them. The Bosch were among some new stuff that was in the trunk of the black Z24. So I just used them for the heck of it.

I really like this car and it will be my daily driver,,, well along with the S10, that is. I've got to find a door and swap the fender sometime. I know where there is a perfect phase 2 door, but I'll pass on it and hope to find a phase 1 somewhere.

Oh yeah, the A/C. I used everything off the RS. I'd replaced the compressor on it back in May 2016. All it needed was oil, vac and recharge. It seems to be working fine.
Re: 88 Wagon Update
Saturday, May 23, 2020 7:22 PM
butch nackley wrote:

Here is a short video of the engine sound in the wagon.
https://youtu.be/twYbKT4LuR4
I can't edit the post above with the original link.
I decided it might be a good idea to remove this video, under the Fifth Amendment.
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