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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:11 PM
it all depends on how big you go on the tires as to the rear clearance issues...

tim... outbacks actually have the subframes spaced down and run a slightly longer strut with the lower perches mounted higher on the strut body.






Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 4:15 PM
Interesting...



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:26 PM
should also mention that camber will want to go positive with the strut top spacers. camber bolts would prob fix the issue.

wonder if you could run the std coilovers cranked up. would fix the camber issue in the front at least.. i'm not sure how much lift they would offer. (that and you could crank it down in the summer)



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:31 PM
Have you used those camber bolts before? How much change can you usually get with those?



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:36 PM
crash bolts? We cant be talking about that much camber change, I haven't seen much camber change in jounce or droop with these cars (or much at all with most mac strut cars since the instant center is at infinity because the link's dont intersect, blah blah blah more engineering stuff, lol. If you cant tell I just read the suspension section of the bible and am working on designing the rear suspension for the racecar). I'm sure just larger ovals in the struts would give you enough adjustment.


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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:52 PM
Maybe I'll have to throw my front struts in the mill.... lol



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:39 AM
Jookycola wrote:

1997 Cavalier ZR-24 Moab Concept

Hard to get any technical specs of this car now, but i'm fairly sure it's a 2 1/2 inch lift using longer shocks, regular oem cavalier struts with a strut spacer, and longer springs from a Lumina.

This is what i remember as well.




Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:45 PM
If you look at the wheel bolt circle compared to the bottom of the body, It doesn't look too far off from a stock cavalier... Looks to me that the lift comes because of the 17's and larger tires.


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Here's some inspiration



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:20 PM
so if i just throw some 24's on there i'll get a completely redneck/ghetto lift on it?????/



i keed, i keed...... i need to go get some big meaty ass tires for it soon......

on a side note i think i'll be keeping the 95-99 z wheels on it and just stuffing the biggest tires under it that i can. this bitch is going to see some mud this year



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:11 PM
talking from my experience with lifting subaru legacy's, the front could be aligned back into spec but that was with the factory camber bolts.

cramming larger tires under the car will make it sit higher but you'll likely run into rubbing issues pretty quick.

pic of my legacy for reference.


i ran 215/65/16 general grabber at2's on it.



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:06 PM
man you're crazy. haha. there's a guy who welded a cavalier body onto a bronco frame. just do that. haha

Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:23 PM
Lol... no...

This is a local project, known as the Slazer.






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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Monday, February 21, 2011 4:57 AM
Transporter7220 wrote:

Lol... no...

This is a local project, known as the Slazer.



That's might look kind of neat.....if the frame wasn't hanging 2 feet below the body...



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Monday, February 21, 2011 10:59 AM
Zs Z wrote:

Transporter7220 wrote:

Lol... no...

This is a local project, known as the Slazer.



That's might look kind of neat.....if the frame wasn't hanging 2 feet below the body...



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:02 PM
Any updates from anyone?




Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:05 PM
none. i'm going to start with finding the biggest meatiest tires i can find and find out how much/if any that changes the height/stance. it'll be a little while before i can change all four. if it raises it enough i may leave well enough alone. i really only want it to be able to get around close as good as an awd car would be able to in the mud/snow.



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:26 PM
Just be careful going too big, you start to get into really heavy tires, and that along with a larger tire diameter would make for a slug of a car.

A 4.11 FDR would be the way to go with this...



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:38 PM
So a strut spacer between the strut mount and the body seem to be the best route for this. 2-3" lift seems to be about the max someone should go with spacers. The half shafts and the front end seems to be getting into some interesting geometry if you go much higher than that. You could get another inch or two by spacing the engine cradle with spacers, but the trans mount may need to be tweaked.

The rear starts to get close to the front of the rear quarters if you go much more than 3-4". But that is a hell of a lift if you ask me.








Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:51 PM
Strut mount spacers sound like it will work...

Did Jay just start off a new trend?



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:48 AM
The brother and i are debating on turning my red 99z into a rally lifted car for @!#$z and gigglez.





Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:52 AM
RallyX events in your future?



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Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:44 AM
There is one about 1.5 hours from here....




Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:23 PM
i would say like 1.5" lift in the front, and leave the rear alone, just throw on some larger wheels/tires.



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:18 PM
Nah, Do front and rear buddy. I'm interested in seeing a cavalier dominate some rallyx



Re: What's needed to lift my car?
Sunday, March 20, 2011 7:35 PM
There are now 1.5, 2, and 3 inch coil spring spacers on ebay for cavaliers....just sayin



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