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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:57 PM
i will be keeping an eye on this one for sure. i really like the design. i havent been around long enough to see any of the RKS carnage, but i have heard of it and seen pics of their design. these look much much beefier. intrested in road test results for sure. i would love to see some installed pics.

will these support a factory style ball joint? im also intrested in how that camber adjustment on the ball joint works, and could it be had without?

after how well the fender braces turned out, i'm more than intrested in these. price isn't a huge concern for me when it comes to quality suspension parts.




Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:18 PM
AWESOME looking parts Mark. Are then lighter then the aluminum grand am ones?



Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:21 PM
It looks to be reinforced along the tube. From the look of it, on the pics, overall it is a much better design than RKSport's. Nice to have options.
Has it been road tested?
No aluminum for the material? Usually using a softer material you have to form it in a calculated manner in order to have the same strength as steel.
Not busting balls, just curious.
GL too.

BTW these were the RKsport ones.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=3&i=100724&t=100720&p=1








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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:23 PM
Those control arms look nice. What about a spherical bearing insert for the grand am control arms ?




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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:33 PM


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:42 PM
why are the holes for the ball joints slotted out so much?


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:45 PM
I'm definately on the interested list...

1.) Josh G. (Black)
2.) Vince (Not sure on color yet, as well as funds after STD coilovers)
3.) Pj DaFlyinSkwirl (possibly two sets depending on price)
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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:08 PM
1.) Josh G. (Black)
2.) Vince (Not sure on color yet, as well as funds after STD coilovers)
3.) Pj DaFlyinSkwirl (possibly two sets depending on price)
4.) binzer (black is fine)
5.) wayders- no powder, also depending on price
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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:30 PM
@!#$ it up.


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:30 PM
1.) Josh G. (Black)
2.) Vince (Not sure on color yet, as well as funds after STD coilovers)
3.) Pj DaFlyinSkwirl (possibly two sets depending on price)
4.) binzer (black is fine)
5.) wayders- no powder, also depending on price
6.) NaviCavi - also no powder and depending on price
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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:40 PM
1.) Josh G. (Black)
2.) Vince (Not sure on color yet, as well as funds after STD coilovers)
3.) Pj DaFlyinSkwirl (possibly two sets depending on price)
4.) binzer (black is fine)
5.) wayders- no powder, also depending on price
6.) NaviCavi - also no powder and depending on price
7.) Jon D
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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:49 PM
1.) Josh G. (Black)
2.) Vince (Not sure on color yet, as well as funds after STD coilovers)
3.) Pj DaFlyinSkwirl (possibly two sets depending on price)
4.) binzer (black is fine)
5.) wayders- no powder, also depending on price
6.) NaviCavi - also no powder and depending on price
7.) Jon D
8.) Whitecavy (Red) - price pending
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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:51 PM
look great mark




Re: Tubular Control Arms
Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:09 PM
Question for Mark-OEM...
When and if you decide to make these, can they be done without the slotted ball joint mount plates?

Re: Tubular Control Arms
Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:13 AM
The slotted ball joint allows for more camber adjustment. Making these even on a JIG there can be slight differences. With the amount of welding we put into them, the more we take away for the slight adjustments needed the more likely the error if that makes sense.

Chris- I think these arms are going to weigh a little more.

Road testing results will be posted as soon as we can get them to the customer

Once the arms are confirmed, we will spec the pricing and make them as affordable as possible.

Mark-OEM


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:24 PM
OEM wrote:

The slotted ball joint allows for more camber adjustment. Making these even on a JIG there can be slight differences. With the amount of welding we put into them, the more we take away for the slight adjustments needed the more likely the error if that makes sense.


Okay. I do understand what you're saying.
I'm still very interested in these. I'll be looking forward to see how the road-testing shakes out.

Re: Tubular Control Arms
Friday, April 01, 2011 8:32 PM
wow those are amazing mark great job!



Re: Tubular Control Arms
Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:20 AM
Look great, cant wait to see test drive results.

1.) Josh G. (Black)
2.) Vince (Not sure on color yet, as well as funds after STD coilovers)
3.) Pj DaFlyinSkwirl (possibly two sets depending on price)
4.) binzer (black is fine)
5.) wayders- no powder, also depending on price
6.) NaviCavi - also no powder and depending on price
7.) Jon D
8.) Whitecavy (Red) - price pending
9.)John B. no powder pending final price
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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Saturday, April 02, 2011 8:15 PM
Very interesting. Funds are down right now due to recent circumstances. But I would love new control arms.

What will the road tests consist of?



Re: Tubular Control Arms
Sunday, April 03, 2011 4:11 AM
Looks good. Not a bad design.

OEM wrote:

We do not want to use Poly bushings in the rear, poly in that spot is not correct for that application (from our perspective)


I'm curious to know why. And why then use poly in the front bushing instead of a spherical bearing? Also- how much camber adjustment do the slotted holes allow for?



Re: Tubular Control Arms
Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:28 AM
Mark, you have a PM.

And you're 100% right that a spherical is the right bearing for that application.


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:14 AM
OEM wrote:

Well after a long thought process on how to build the best and beefiest J-body arms I am happy to say we have accomplished our goal. After looking at a few designs in the past and seeing where they failed we have put extra care and consideration into these point and addressed them with the utmost concern. What we have developed here is the strongest set of arms out for the J's Period. We used only the strongest materials and best welding techniques to accomplish this goal. These arms are completed and will be set out for testing in the next week or so before we have them listed officially for sale. A group buy might be inorder if there is enough interest. Enjoy

SPECS:
    1" DOM steel tubing 3/16" Wall
    1/4" Cold Roll Steel gussets
    Polyurethane Front bushings with Yellow zinc plates sleeves
    Rear Spherical Bushings
    CNC 6061-T6 Rear Bushing Housings with zinc plated Screws
    CNC Cold roll Steel Rear Bushing Holder
    Plasma Cut Gussets(Heat treats in the Process)
    3/8" Plasma Cut Ball Joint Holders with Camber adjustment
    Tig Welded Tube Joints
    MIG Welded Gusset Joints




Please keep this thread clean, no bashing. If you wish to bash make a new thread so we can keep this one clean.

Thanks

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how much and do you have seals to keep the crap out the bearing?


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Monday, April 04, 2011 6:10 AM
The price for these will start out at $550. If we run a GB special, we will shoot for $400-475. We wont know until we have all the results in. Should have results and a solid price after a few weeks of testing.

Mark


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Monday, April 04, 2011 6:36 AM
I'm really surprised with as much stuff as you do in aluminum you didn't make these in it as well.

I know it would drastically change price but I know there are people out there will to fork out the funds for light parts.


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Re: Tubular Control Arms
Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:19 PM
the issue with aluminum is where its wleded its weaker. welding steel doesn't take as much strength out out of the raw material aluminum is worse if you weld aluminum where the weld is and for get the amount of the surounding area is i think its 30% weaker then raw aluminum thuse way you see aluminum stuff gusetted to hell to spread it out. those in aluminum would be THICK AS HELL. look at how beefy the alumnum N body arms are compared to the stamped steel



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