steven burton wrote:and please, if possible explain why we couldn't have the same sunfire rotor/brake setup in the rear as in the front (since the bracket will be custom made anyway)
One main thing is the emergency brake, there would be no way to hook it up using that kind of caliper, thats mainly why only neon swaps were useable, that and the Granny Am/Alero IRS swap because they have the internal drum emergency brake. In this saturn setup its all in the caliper, don't have to worry about the drum style components wearing/breaking/working properly. The Saturn calipers auto adjust themselves because its like a mini master cylander in each caliper to compress the piston. no fine tuning needed like the neon or otherwise.
Thanks! I gather the grand am calipers wouldn't work with sunfire front rotors using a custom bracket? (assuming grand am calipers would fit over the rotors..)
steven burton wrote:Thanks! I gather the grand am calipers wouldn't work with sunfire front rotors using a custom bracket? (assuming grand am calipers would fit over the rotors..)
No, the grand am IRS swap is basically putting the grand am/alero rear subframe (suspension arms mounts etc.. onto the Jbody... body. you would have to use the grand am 5x115 rotors because it retains the grand am wheel hub. This swap works well with the NWF swap because it gives you 5x115 on all four corners, and you can use a set of specific rims, most people that do one or the other have to get rims with dual lug patterns to have matching rims on the car. Info on both swaps are stickied at top of suspension forum...
steven burton wrote:and please, if possible explain why we couldn't have the same sunfire rotor/brake setup in the rear as in the front (since the bracket will be custom made anyway)
The main reason is that that setup would provide too much braking in the rear which will cause it to lock up and possible put you into a slide/spin.
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Let's hope there are enough S-series out there for the amount of J-body's. I've been to most of the auto wreakers in the area and it looks like no one here liked to spec up their Saturns...
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PingPong wrote:Let's hope there are enough S-series out there for the amount of J-body's. I've been to most of the auto wreakers in the area and it looks like no one here liked to spec up their Saturns...
New/Reman units are always available .....
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Roofy wrote:PingPong wrote:Let's hope there are enough S-series out there for the amount of J-body's. I've been to most of the auto wreakers in the area and it looks like no one here liked to spec up their Saturns...
New/Reman units are always available .....
This... And also like I posted up above my local pick n pull should have two sets left if anybody doesn't want to fork up for a set of new.. The only other things you would need are the hoses, rotors, and pads as I wouldn't reccomend using salvage on those.
They are coming
Just keep an eye out in the GP forums around the end of the month
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I need my brakes bad Jeffie... realll bad. Only one piece is missing... you are holding them hostage...
And really, my shizzy drums are about to rattle my car apart cause they are shot so bad.
Jordan wrote:I need my brakes bad Jeffie... realll bad. Only one piece is missing... you are holding them hostage...
And really, my shizzy drums are about to rattle my car apart cause they are shot so bad.
Just open em up hose em down with some PB Blaster. Bam! No more squeaking =)
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damn, some nice cncing going on there... prolly work real well for a battery tray to.
i only see holes for ONE caliper.............FAIL
Looks great Jeffie. I can't wait to get mine. So in theory with the way those look you could still leave ur rear drums on till you got the parts to do the swap.
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Wow I was expecting them to get water jetted. I guess you determined you needed higher tolerances than that.
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looks good Jeffie! i'm getting antsy at the prospects of seeing this completed. I can also see the difficulty in having a personal life and making all of these. Hats off to you for making these available for everyone.
Waterjet holds tolerances very well, as long as the machine isnt wore out
All the parts we've gotten from the water jetter over here you can see how tight circles are made up of a bunch of tiny straight lines. I'm going to guess the guys we have do ours just have a really old controller that doesnt have super high resolution.
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Leafy (Club Jeffie FEA man) wrote:All the parts we've gotten from the water jetter over here you can see how tight circles are made up of a bunch of tiny straight lines. I'm going to guess the guys we have do ours just have a really old controller that doesnt have super high resolution.
Thats the file type my friend. DXF and DWG files from corel attach millions of nodes. You have to send in as a PDF or an AI file and then they can convert from there. My waterjet does that. Waterjet and a CNC mill work off the same type of programs, G-code. Its the file type that you send it that makes it run smooth or choppy. Also depends on machine some new machines can do auto correct and delete multiple nodes. This speeds the time of production aka makes them more money.
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Ahh now I'd never run into that since I normally machine with parametric models. Although I do use dwg files for the laser cutter and I dont notice the effect, at least not as much.
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durandall05 . wrote:Jordan wrote:I need my brakes bad Jeffie... realll bad. Only one piece is missing... you are holding them hostage...
And really, my shizzy drums are about to rattle my car apart cause they are shot so bad.
Just open em up hose em down with some PB Blaster. Bam! No more squeaking =)
Yeah my brakes don't squeak. My drums are shot, in turn ruining what was left of the shoes. makes my car shake when braking. pb blaster aint gonna help budd. And i'm not gonna blow money on new drums n all waiting for the brackets..
