scott (section8cav) wrote:so i got my brackets in earlier today..tried to put them on and the bolts i have dont seem to be long enough, any suggestions on where to get a set and what strength to get?
You got yours already?... I'm confused when did they become available?
They didnt. i just felt like messing with you guys
Fluffy wrote:scott (section8cav) wrote:They didnt. i just felt like messing with you guys
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X2.... Trying to wait patiently here... and I shoulda known... Jeffie wouldn't send the wrong size bolts
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:3rd Gen J-body Track (in / mm):
Coupe:
front: 57.6 / 1463
rear: 56.4 / 1432
Sedan:
front: 57.6 / 1463
rear: 56.7 / 1440
Plates
3/8'' or 0.375''- 9.525mm
1/2'' or 0.5'' -12.7mm
Coupe's rear track with plates.
3/8'': 57.16'' / 1451.8 mm
1/2'': 57.37'' / 1457.1 mm
Sedan's rear track with plates.
3/8'': 57.44'' / 1458.9 mm
1/2'': 57.65'' / 1464.3mm
so accordingg to this, if i want my coupes wheels to be inline and neutral i should get 1/2 brackets because the 1/2's bracket puts it closer to the stock front right?
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okay so can someone please post up the stock part numbers for the equipment we are gonna need, i spoke to jeffy and hes said we need:
Calipers, Caliper brake ears, Pads, and rotors, Ive tried calling people and they keep asking me what the brake ears are? idk lol
so if you could post up the stock parts and that would be amazing
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What are brake ears? You mean caliper brackets? Just buy semi-loaded calipers, they come with them.
total list all below are saturn parts from a 1991 to 1998 SL2 SC2 or SW2
Semi loaded calipers (these include)
.........Caliper
.........Caliper Bracket
.........e-brake bracket
.........bleeder screw
.........banjo bolt
..........slider pins/bolts
Rotors (re-drilled to 5x100)
Rear brake line (the flex lines)
Pads
If you dont get semi loaded calipers you have to steal most of the list indented below calipers from the junk yard OR buy it.
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Okay great. Now my next questions is where can I find the rears semi-loaded? I've been calling around but no luck. Maybe because i wasn't sure what I needed exactly. So any rear setup with work with the brackets jeffies makiing. As u listed above?
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Any rears from those years and model saturns. The way I always look it up is 95 SC2 rears. That way no one can @!#$ up and get drum brake results. There was rock auto links in this thread somewhere.
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Any Saturn s-series with 4 wheel ABS will have rear discs
Edit:
Also, Fetter is getting his adapter brackets tomorrow, so we will see how he likes them
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Nope, after 1998 they still had ABS but no rear disks (or was is 2000 that it was phased out?) Whatever it was 3rd gens had abs but drum brakes only.
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2002 Chevy Cavalier LS Sport Coupe: In a Junk Yard
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when i went to the junkyrad, there was like 60 saturns and NONE of then had rear disc for this swap!!! WTF??? i didn't know these were super rare. only rear disc i have found on saturn was 5 bolts pattern, there was like 2 or 3...
I'm going to make it easy for the junk yard guys. If it has black plastic bumpers or door handles it wont likely have the brakes. But if they match body color its likely. Also I'm going to put down what saturns would have the brakes.
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2002 Chevy Cavalier LS Sport Coupe: In a Junk Yard
1995 Mazda Miata R-package Class=STR
Sponsored by:
Kronos Performance
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WPI SAE Risk and Sustainability Management Officer
i pulled mine off a newer saturn. 4 door v6
scott (section8cav) wrote:i pulled mine off a newer saturn. 4 door v6
I still dont believe those are right, but we did check and they had the same part number stamped in them as the new calipers I just got.
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WPI SAE Risk and Sustainability Management Officer
that would be good to know because i have saw a 4door v6 also with rear disc. it was 5 bolts pattern!
5x110.
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whatever the bolt pattern is, i just want to know if the caliper will work! that would save me the 250$ to get new one from rockauto
99 is when 3rd Gen hit I do believe
Magik1109 wrote:whatever the bolt pattern is, i just want to know if the caliper will work! that would save me the 250$ to get new one from rockauto
I know there were a few more at a local yard if somebody would be interested... I could prolly get them to anyone for 60+ shipping per set. This would just cover buying the brackets and my fuel to get there and back. They would need cleaned up and a new seal kit... I THINK there are two sets left there as of a month ago when I got mine, Could be more, or less, they update their inventory constantly. Lemme know. Otherwise rock auto reman semi loaded calipers and brackets are only 83 each, plus like 7 99 each for new hydraulic hoses.
i would take a set for 60$! That is if the one from v6 with 5 bolts would not work! cause i could get these for almost nothing
Magik1109 wrote:i would take a set for 60$! That is if the one from v6 with 5 bolts would not work! cause i could get these for almost nothing
If they are the right part numbers they should work... If not, I check this thread multiple times daily waiting for a Brackets are done-They cost this much-Send moey here post
just check the numbers on them. i posted pics a few pages back of the ones i pulled. just compare the pics of the calipers on here to the ones on the car your looking at. Mine came off a v6 saturn sedan v6, and i believe it was a 5lug pattern. 110 maybe .. either way..check the numbers on them and youll know. i WOULD verify these are correct calipers but SOMEONE needs to send me a bracket before i can do that :p
silly question but would it not be better to have a 5x110 rotor cut to be a 5x100 than to have a 4x redrilled to 5x?
and please, if possible explain why we couldn't have the same sunfire rotor/brake setup in the rear as in the front (since the bracket will be custom made anyway)