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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, September 07, 2007 10:19 AM
I'm having a hard time understanding the axle situation.....

im doing the 3400 swap... and using a getrag 5-speed along with it

now im going to get the parts for the n-body swap here next week, so what do i really need here as far as axles go, so its done right?




Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, September 07, 2007 12:17 PM
5 speed axles from a 99+ N-body.




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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, September 07, 2007 1:21 PM
wait, i thought n-bodies never came with 5 speeds... right ?



Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, September 07, 2007 2:16 PM
Has anyone figured out if the N-body tierods are bigger than the J-body tie rods? I was looking at a full N-body setup the other day, and when the bolt is tight, it seems as if the N-body bolt fits nicely with room for the boot. When tightening my J-body tie rod bolt against the N-body knuckle, it comes down pretty far, almost completely collapsing the boot (I end up backing up a little bit). What possible damage could we be causing having the boot so collapsed?



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, September 07, 2007 2:19 PM
you could break the seal or tear the boot... causing the grease to come out and destroying the balljoint over time



Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, September 07, 2007 11:31 PM
Meckster wrote:

wait, i thought n-bodies never came with 5 speeds... right ?


Yes, the N-body (Pontiac and Olds) have always had a 5 speed version.

'99+ 5 speed axles N-body Axles
AutoZone
Duralast CV Halfshaft Left 9467 $69.99 (+$25.00Core)
Duralast CV Halfshaft Right 9466 $69.99 (+$25.00Core)

AdvanceAuto
Cardone CV Halfshaft Left 601336 $103.99 (+$50.00 core)
Cardone CV Halfshaft Right 601337 $103.99 (+$50.00 core)

And again, Tom (WrenchMonkey) just swapped a AutoZone DR Side N-body axle into his car, and when measured (laying on the ground, side by side) the N-body axle was shorter then the Hybrid (J axle, N outer) axle. We have not yet tried to use the Pas. side axle yet. I will probably swap axles after winter (if mine hold up that long).




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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:12 AM
alright... i guess im thinking of the 3800 cars then, my bad



Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Saturday, September 08, 2007 4:25 PM
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=3&i=125913&t=125913

plz help me out on a problem i have



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:15 AM
as for the f body y body caliper swapability i found this

Quote:

This is topic 13" C5 Brakes on my 2000 SS - PICS!!! in forum SSOA: "Back Porch" at www.chirpthird.com.


To visit this topic, use this URL:
http://www.chirpthird.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/f/3/t/014238.html

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Posted by Xsta Z 28 (Member # 740) on 10 November, 2003 11:15 AM:

This weekend I finished the install of my 13" C5 Corvette brakes on my SS. Install went very well, and actually was easier than I expected. Worst part was SAWING the car!

By far, probably the best bang for your buck when it comes to a brake upgrade. You could actually save a little money on a LS-1 and reuse the OEM caliper since it is the exact same size, just use new 13" rotors for a vette, the adapters, vette brake line, vette brake bracket and pads.

I splurged and bought the Baer Eradispeed 2 peice rotors for a little more appearance "Bling".





Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, December 24, 2007 1:04 PM
Alright guys:

So, i have a loud thumping noise coming from the driver side when doing a soft right turn. After reading wrench's post, it seems like the n-body axle might be a solution. i think my inner tripod cv might be bad, seeing as both outer cv's are new on my hybrid axles. now, he only did the driver side, has anyone successfully done the passenger side? i know bobby was looking into changing both (and he also has an auto tranny). i really dont know whats up, but i've been driving with this clicking for a few months now and have no real other solution. i've done long trips with no problems, i just fear one day me getting stranded in the middle of the highway if something blows up.

any ideas? anybody swapped both full nbody axles? whats the worst that can happen with this clicking?



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:29 PM
UPDATE!!!!!!


Make 100% sure you use hte Nbody tie rod ends... the jbody ones are NOT safe to use there is too much play in them and cause a nasty clunk.




Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:32 PM
Guess I'll get those too before I do my swap.


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:14 PM
So recap. We can use the N-body alxe with the J-body control arm?

Also we need the N-body ball joint for the N-body spindles?







Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:26 PM
still TBD i guess. and yes.



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:38 PM
Damn i sure hope we can. I hated swapping the ends on my last swap . Biggest pain for me was getting them to reseal.





Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:52 PM
Phlatcav wrote:

So recap. We can use the N-body alxe with the J-body control arm?

Also we need the N-body ball joint for the N-body spindles?

yes..... use all n-body parts. Axles, ball joints, tie rod ends, spindles........




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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:44 PM
Then thats what I am gonna do then.





Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:57 AM
Well I just bought the rotors so now I have EVERYTHING I need finally.......yay!


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:24 PM
So how bout them new axles!

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!?!?!



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, March 14, 2008 5:31 AM
The axles are Awesome! sitting on the table.....................


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, March 14, 2008 5:56 PM
Couple questions:

1. Will this setup push the wheel out further than stock?

2. Are the wheel hubs that are dual drilled for two sets of studs for sure 5 x 100 and 5 x 115?

3. So if I wanted to use the stock wheels on the nbody hubs, I would just need to bore out the center on the stock wheels? Anyone done this? Comments?

Thanks.






Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:52 PM
1) I don't think it pushed mine out at all (at least, not enough for me to notice)
2) Nope, and in fact, I think I found somewhere that they might be 5X110.
3) No, because even if you did get the bolts and hub to work, the stock 16's WILL NOT fit due to the inward spoke design. I did a lot of measuring



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, March 17, 2008 8:05 PM
Thanks.

I just checked what the bearing fits on ebay... an 04- 05 malibu classic uses 5x 110 bolt pattern.

What I want to do is use 17 inch 5x100 rims (and if I can get the stock rims to work with spacers is a plus) and N-body brakes.
Are the OE hubs dual drilled 5x115 and 5x110? If so can you drill another set of holes 5x100? Would it be safe to have 3 sets of holes drilled?





Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:43 AM
The Malibu Classic is the old N-body..... it has a 5x115 bolt pattern, the new Malibu (and Malibu Maxx) uses the 5x110 pattern.







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SLO GOAT - '04 GTO 305whp
RACER X - '80 Chevette Quad 4 Swap

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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:12 PM
buy new rims. ive been there done that.



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