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Cheap way to get negative camber.
Monday, July 23, 2012 4:04 PM
Alright, i managed to find a thread on cheap ways to adjust the camber NOTE: This is NOT for street use, this is for dirt track use ONLY.
I've been searching around for the last 15 minutes or so, yes, i have used the search bar before i get one of those "Search!" trolls, however, i have not been successful in finding the information i was looking for, maybe just looking in the wrong places and searching the wrong words.

I remember reading something about reaming out the holes in the front strut and using some grade 8 bolts, washers, and a welder to tack the bolts and washers to keep everything in place, but i would like to read all of the information on it, i do remember all of the details for the rear wheel.

So if anyone could tell me here or link me to the thread that has that information it would be greatly appreciated.



96 2.2L, #66 on the dirt track

Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Monday, July 23, 2012 4:24 PM
I gained about ~1.5" negative camber from swapping to unmodded N-body control arms.



Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Monday, July 23, 2012 5:01 PM
Or you can get an eccentric bolt kit for the strut to knuckle...



Buildin' n' Boostin for 08' - Alex Richards
Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Monday, July 23, 2012 5:16 PM
Or just slot the top hole on the strut instead of messing with the spindle.



Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Monday, July 23, 2012 8:06 PM
Tinkles(KGM) wrote:

Or just slot the top hole on the strut instead of messing with the spindle.


lol yep



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Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:06 AM
buy camber bolts...

with the vibration and forces exerted on the suspension on a dirt track, i'd rather have a cam bolt holding your wheel/knuckle in place then an "engineered" cheap solution.

the bolts aren't THAT expensive.



Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:04 PM
Tinkles(KGM) wrote:

I gained about ~1.5" negative camber from swapping to unmodded N-body control arms.

Sweet, and nice to know.
strat81 wrote:

buy camber bolts...

with the vibration and forces exerted on the suspension on a dirt track, i'd rather have a cam bolt holding your wheel/knuckle in place then an "engineered" cheap solution.

the bolts aren't THAT expensive.

Agreed.





Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:18 AM
strat81 wrote:

buy camber bolts...

with the vibration and forces exerted on the suspension on a dirt track, i'd rather have a cam bolt holding your wheel/knuckle in place then an "engineered" cheap solution.

the bolts aren't THAT expensive.


Could go either way with this. Some of the bolts out there aren't as strong as the factory bolts. In this type of environment, I could see them possibly shearing. I think a combo of slotted holes, bolts and some weld reinforcement would work best.
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Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:25 AM
James Cahill wrote:

strat81 wrote:

buy camber bolts...

with the vibration and forces exerted on the suspension on a dirt track, i'd rather have a cam bolt holding your wheel/knuckle in place then an "engineered" cheap solution.

the bolts aren't THAT expensive.


Could go either way with this. Some of the bolts out there aren't as strong as the factory bolts. In this type of environment, I could see them possibly shearing. I think a combo of slotted holes, bolts and some weld reinforcement would work best.
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Welding anywhere near the bolt holes is a bad idea... in fact unless you plan to heat treat afterward you should'nt weld on any suspension componants.

Get camber bolts... be done with it :-)



Buildin' n' Boostin for 08' - Alex Richards
Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:55 AM
James Cahill wrote:

strat81 wrote:

buy camber bolts...

with the vibration and forces exerted on the suspension on a dirt track, i'd rather have a cam bolt holding your wheel/knuckle in place then an "engineered" cheap solution.

the bolts aren't THAT expensive.


Could go either way with this. Some of the bolts out there aren't as strong as the factory bolts. In this type of environment, I could see them possibly shearing. I think a combo of slotted holes, bolts and some weld reinforcement would work best.
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if you're buying a quality part, i highly doubt you will shear them. (moog's are all of 11 bucks on amazon) rallyxing my wrx, I ran the factory camber bolts and never sheared a bolt.



Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:19 PM
So in the front i could just use a control arm from an Alero? That works fine for me as i plan on getting the strut and spring from one for the stiffer spring here on the weekend.



96 2.2L, #66 on the dirt track

Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:25 PM
Adam L wrote:

So in the front i could just use a control arm from an Alero? That works fine for me as i plan on getting the strut and spring from one for the stiffer spring here on the weekend.


Yes, the 99 model year was the only year to have aluminum control arms.



Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:28 PM
Does it have to be one with the aluminum control arms or can it be any Alero? I really don't care if they're aluminum or not lol



96 2.2L, #66 on the dirt track
Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:55 PM
Any will work.



Re: Cheap way to get negative camber.
Monday, July 30, 2012 2:58 AM
Alright, thanks for the info. I like the control arm swap a lot more than the idea of reaming out the holes in the strut.



96 2.2L, #66 on the dirt track
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