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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:31 AM
James, yup I found those pics

Also, I just pulled some 94 eagle Talon calipers off at the yard.. My 7/16-20 screws fit in there fine.. I can use those right? I mean physically they should be the same as the Neon ones right?











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:25 AM
Does anybody check this thread anymore?

Btw, is this still a must that we space out the rotors?













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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:56 PM
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Does anybody check this thread anymore?



yeah I do

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Btw, is this still a must that we space out the rotors?


as fas as I know thats a yes, I just got some 1/2" washers from Home Despot, works like a charm.






Re: Neon disc swap how to
Friday, September 28, 2007 2:35 PM
I did not mean to say Eagle talon calipers, lol.. Anyway, im 90 percent done with this swap.. Waiting on rotors and shoes..


Thanks cinny, so just 1 washer on each lug right?











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:45 PM
URGENT
Ok, seriously for the ebrack actuator.. How in the hell are you supposed to pull that spring back to put it on? Thats what the vid says.. My spring is too stiff to move back to put this on. Why does it look so easy in the video?












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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:22 PM
don't try to push the spring, use an allen key through the hole and pull on the cable you will get enough room to put the actuator in.


...and yeah one washer per stud



Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:44 PM
The hole on the caliper bracket where the cable goes through? What does the allen key attach to while im pulling the cable?











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 29, 2007 2:56 PM
on the end of the cable there should be a metal "loop" once the cable in inside the bracket put the allen key through the "loop" and pull the spring will separate from the end piece and you can put the actuator on. then release the pressure and remove the allen key, finish putting together the e-brake assembly.






Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:47 PM
I guess that way works too. I real just pulled on the cable and slapped the actuators in there, no fuss. The spacers are only required IF AND ONLY IF the rotor rubs on the backing plate. IF you can put the rotors on and tighten the wheel down without it rubbing on the backing plate then you dont need any washers.
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:22 PM
Joshua Dearman wrote:

I guess that way works too. I real just pulled on the cable and slapped the actuators in there, no fuss. The spacers are only required IF AND ONLY IF the rotor rubs on the backing plate. IF you can put the rotors on and tighten the wheel down without it rubbing on the backing plate then you dont need any washers.


I got the idea from that little tool for putting the drum springs back on, only that tool was too much of a hook so I used the allen key as my screwdriver was too large to fit.


let us know how ya make up Whitecavy








Re: Neon disc swap how to
Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:08 AM
Thanks, that allen key trick was a pretty good one.. Got the actuators on.. But damn, now im stuck on that top spring for the shoes, kinda difficult with little ol needle noses lol.. Bout to order me a pizza to gather more strenght, lol I have none left.. Ill keep ya updated.











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:51 AM
Joshua Dearman wrote:

The spacers are only required IF AND ONLY IF the rotor rubs on the backing plate. IF you can put the rotors on and tighten the wheel down without it rubbing on the backing plate then you dont need any washers.


x2. Mine may have only rubbed with the additional powder coat thickness, and I would definetely recommend a spacer on the axle side of the bearing iinstead of on on the wheel side, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Kinda sucks with blown up CVs and a bad input shaft bearing.......




Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, October 06, 2007 4:59 PM
For you guys with 03+ cavi's, I cut the springs and got that to fit in the back plate nicely, however this makes the cables too long to tighten them up. I was just trying to figure out a way to make the existing cables to work. I don't have any way to shorten the cables now, so I am just going to buy cables for an older cavy.
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:28 PM
other then cutting and shorting by replacing the end, I dont think there is a way.
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:46 AM
Quick question, my ebrake light is on when I start the car.. I have everything assembled up on jack stands minus the rotors.. Could my ebrake cable on one of my wheels not be pulled to the 'back' of the car all the way.? Thats the only thing I can think of.











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:25 AM
the ebrake engagement is only measured at the handle, regardless of where the ebrake cables are. so you've got a prob somewhere else.



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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:46 AM
Ahhh crap, thats weird,, Light Wasn't on before the swap.. Thx.











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:51 AM
Did you plug in all the wheel sensors? (the two you removed when fiddling with the bracket and wheel bearings?) For me, no wheel bearing measurement throws the ABS light, but for you it might be diff.



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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:03 AM
Oh my goodness, I feel like the biggest retard right now lol.. My drivers side plug wasnt plugged into the bearing Thanks man lol.











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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:46 PM
i'm going to be assembling my ebrake this weekend, i cant wait


Also, to those, make sure the washers you use to space out the rotor are all the same thickness, i had one side with one that wasnt perfect and the friggin wheel wobbles all over the place (i have since replaced it)


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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:01 AM
has anybody intergrated the neon parkbrake cables to the cavs' equalizer?

Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:43 PM
Most everybody just uses the cavi cables......I havn't heard of anybody mixing and matching cables yet I dont think.
Re: Neon disc swap how to
Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:44 PM
I used Neon cables with a Neon equalizer.




Re: Neon disc swap how to
Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:26 PM
So spent the whole afternoon working on the ebrake, and have some concerns

after watching josh's video, it doesnt seem to work properly putting the little arm that actuates the pads on the cable further down pushed up against teh spring/cable. i coudlnt do it, the spring was way to taut and the engagement for the ebrake would have been way too early, as the difference in the acutal cavalier end and where that is would cause issues IMO

so i modified the arm, the end to be specific, removed the U and managed to get the cable to stay on there without any issues.

did i do that correctly? did i miss somthing from josh's video? i was still having some problems tightening up the bearing, there's no room in there to tighten everything up. Any body have a pic of what their ebrake looks like? i'm not reaind through 21 pages again lol.

i also sourced pads/hardware from an older intrepid, seems they were exactly the same to the neon rears.


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Re: Neon disc swap how to
Monday, October 29, 2007 2:07 PM
I have a question also. Apparently the fittings i got with my kit are the wrong ones because they are not working at all with my ss lines and my calipers. I'm picking up two 3' union fittings from a performance shop tommorrow to hook up my ss lines to my stock cavi lines. Now I need to find out what size threads are in the caliper to determine what union fitting I need for them? They are 97 neon calipers. The guy at the shop said they are most likely metric. They dont stock metric size fittings there thats why he said to find out what size I need and he can order them. Some of the fittings he tried would screw into the caliper, but it would be a little sloppy. Please help me out, I'm so close to getting these things on!
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