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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:36 AM
I want to let you guys know that its very popular to swap the F-body calipers onto the W-body cars (like my Regal).

Well instead of using F-body calipers you can also use C5 Corvette Calipers which are actually MUCH better then the F-body calipers.

The C5 calipers have longer cooler fins and smaller dual pistons for less squishy brake petal like we get in the W-body cars with F-body calipers.

Pretty much on the W-body cars you use the F-body rotor, F-body Caliper Bracket, F-body caliper bolts, F-body brake pads then use simply the C5 calipers.

I would have to say you J-body guys be able to get away with this as well if you are using an F-body caliper to bolt on it.

C5 Caliper VS F-Body Caliper


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, June 13, 2011 5:17 AM
that is one pretty regal wish it came out more


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:19 PM
how about equal lenght axels? does the n-body had this option? i would like to retain the equal lenght on my manual isuzu





Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, July 25, 2011 4:43 PM
anyone?



Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, July 25, 2011 4:56 PM
I don't think there are too many people actively playing with J and N bodies; you'll probably have to actually compare them yourself. I wouldn't be the least surprised if the N-Body axles are extremely close to the same as the J. The N is slightly wider, by about 1.5", but (if I remember correctly) it came with the Isuzu (or a compatible) tranny at one point in time.



Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, July 25, 2011 5:06 PM
but did any of the n-body came with equal length axels?




Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, July 25, 2011 7:00 PM
not sure what your asking......

The Isuzu had an intermediate shaft (early production 3rd gen J's had them). For the N-body spindle/knuckle swap, you can just swap out the outer axle, there for not effecting the rest of the axle.

The Getrag doesnt use the intermediate shaft, but I believe it can be used, just doesnt fit perfect.

The N-bodies that used the Isuzu trans, had the same brakes and suspension as the J-bodies.....






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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, July 25, 2011 7:18 PM
yeah i just wanted to swap n-body equal length axles. now i'll just get the outer swapped...

SpeedRacerZ wrote:


The N-bodies that used the Isuzu trans, had the same brakes and suspension as the J-bodies.....

so all 99 grand ams have getrag?




Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, July 25, 2011 7:30 PM
Yep, 99+ used the getrag....... although if you check the GM build records, idk how many N-bodies came with the 5 speed. I know my wife had a '01 Alero 5 speed, VERY rare.



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Monday, August 01, 2011 12:14 PM
JUCNBST wrote:

z yaaaa wrote:

hey guys... just curious if anyone has done just the n-body front swap? im planning on using all n-body stuff so i can fit 15" rims on for racing purposes...

also, has anyone made their set-up 5X100? is it even possible? my cruising rims are only one bolt pattern so thats why i ask, id like to retain 5X100 for my swap.

thanks.



I'm in the same boat, did anyone findout if you can get 5x100 hubs for the swap?


This. I dont mine re-drilling rotors.


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:43 PM
I'm looking at replacing my passenger side axle and it already has this swap. It's a 2004 5 speed and I can't figure out what one i need. I know you have to reuse the input side but what axle do I need?


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:32 PM
Hypothetically, if someone were to re-drill the hubs and rotors to 5x100 would a stock LSS or Z wheel fit?


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, August 12, 2011 9:15 AM
Leafy (Club Jeffie FEA man) wrote:

Hypothetically, if someone were to re-drill the hubs and rotors to 5x100 would a stock LSS or Z wheel fit?
It would fit with some major spacers, but not without them.



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, August 12, 2011 9:18 AM
I should add that one of the reasons they would not fit without spacers is the hub bores on the J are far too small for those hubs.



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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Friday, August 12, 2011 2:38 PM
Issue of the caliper being too wide just like any other brake caliper beside the stock one. The old issue of no backspacing on the stock wheels.


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:52 PM
whats the difference between the f-body rotors and the w-body one???




Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:19 PM
Depends on the model. The Police brake package used F body rotors. There was a kit you could buy to upgrade your W body to F body sized rotors.


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:22 PM
so for this swap, could i get f-body rotor? or i really need w-body?




Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:25 PM
Magik1109 wrote:

so for this swap, could i get f-body rotor? or i really need w-body?


you can get f-body. that's what i'm running.


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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:28 PM
Thats what I ran also, F-body Rotors and Calipers. W-body used 11" rotors, F-body 12".....




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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:34 PM
so i can just order camaro 2000 rotors, pads, calipers, brackets, and be good





Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:48 PM
FYI, the Impala rotors are the same as the F-body, so it doesn't really matter which application you chose. For simplicity, if you're buying the rotors and pads new at the store, you might as well just order the F-body ones. The holes are drilled wide enough to accommodate both bolt patterns. I originally did my swap using rotors off a 2000 Impala. They were most definitely 12"




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Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:14 AM
The above is correct. When I originally wrote this I was told there was an offset difference between F and W rotors, there is not however. OEM equipment is slightly different, with the two having different vein patterns.

Also, the J-Body ball joint "works" for a limited amount of time and will need to be replaced with a N-Body ball joint. Be extremely careful getting aftermarket ball joints as many of the N-Body models have a "tab" which protrudes outboard. This "tab" may contact the rotor. Seeing as most manufacturers don't put their name on these parts I couldn't name a particular brand that is known to work.


Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:12 PM
i bought moog ball joint for n-body with aluminum arms
i hope they will be fine



Re: N+W+F-Body Front Suspension Swap - How To
Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:09 PM
when ordering a set of wheels, i just need to order them for impala 2000? just wanna make sure it clear the brakes.
i have found some winter universal 16" rims on 1010tires.com
with the dual bolt pattern, it will also fit the rear.



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