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97 cav rusted out frame picture
Monday, March 10, 2008 3:08 PM
So does everyones rust out here? The underneath is is great shape! But this spot just caused me to fail NY state inspection!

I have to have that entire thing replaced or get it fixed (welded) Dealer told me 900 bucks. HA!

I went to a little local shop and he is going to try and weld it wednesday and re inspect it.





99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles

Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM
If you were closer, I would give you my spare for like $100.



Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Monday, March 10, 2008 5:22 PM
It looks like a real pain to replace.. I am hoping it can be welded to get it passed NY inspection.


99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Monday, March 10, 2008 5:27 PM
wow , i will look at mine, we dont rust too bad here in wyoming, but this new junk they put on the roads is messing cars up, it is called ice slicer, i dont like it
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Monday, March 10, 2008 5:36 PM
We are all salt here in NY. The roads are WHITE from salt when the snow goes.

Overall the car in in great shape. Just starting to rust at the bottom of the doors. And under the car is great.. but this spot for some reason is junk. I am driving it the next couple days with no inspection haha. Hopefully the little shop wednesday can weld steel on it or something. I really don't want to change it.

This car is my money saver. My silverado is parked.


99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Monday, March 10, 2008 5:54 PM
yeah im sure they can fix it up for you, a good welder can do it easy, yeah my silverado has the 8.1 big block, i dont drive it much theese days,
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:25 AM
Mines got a rust hole behind/below the drivers door. Hasn't been getting bigger, but the car hasn't been being driven. I'll probably have to do something about it one of these days. But at this point it's not affecting the structure of the car. I agree though, salt FTL. And it starts to get pricey when you keep going to the carwash with the underbody sprayer once or twice a week.





Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:48 AM
I have seen a few now come in to our shop with holes like that, we are also in a spot where a lot of salt is used on the roads in the winter. Another spot where they all rust out is on the rear frame brace that connects the two rear frame rails, they always rust out there in the corners.



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Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:07 AM
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:28 PM
Mine isnt that bad, yet.



Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:37 PM
i would replace it not weld it. thast the main part of your subframe. a lift and 4 hours of your time you could have everything swapped over



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Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:30 PM
Wow, im praying i dont have that on my car. Im a little worried now. Our cars rust out really bad here. Even cars thats only 4-5 years old get rusty. Im going to check!
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:43 AM
Machzel08 (Teh Jew) wrote:

i would replace it not weld it. thast the main part of your subframe. a lift and 4 hours of your time you could have everything swapped over


I am living in an apartment and making offers on houses. If I don't buy a house in the next month I have to get a new apartment. I dont' have the time, money, or garage to change it out. I have alot of money sitting in the driveway as you can see from my signature. The cavy is my daily transportation. I dropped it off at the garage and he is going to put a filler piece of metal in there and weld it in place. Hopefully all goes well.

I am supposed to pick it up on my way home from work.. hopefully it will be done and will pass New York inspection!


99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:18 AM
I used to live in Michigan, tons of road salt and rust, North Carolina doesnt even snow here, so no rust, really nice thing about living here


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Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:20 AM
Done. He called. They bent up a thick plate of steel and welded it on there. They also painted it.

Reinspected it.. passed now.. good to go

He said 122 bucks. Picture coming when I get home.


99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:10 PM
Good to hear. Just went out to look at mine, perfect. A little rusty, but still very strong and no holes.
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:20 PM
must be a spot where snow ice and salt like to pack in, just looked at mine looks like it should surface rust but real good otherwise
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:55 PM
man im glad i live in texas, we never snow so no salt. i cant imagine how you guys can deal with that weather up there. nice you got it fixed though.

i remember seeing something on that tv show truck u. that there is a device that you put on your frame and it does not let rust build up. have you guys heard of it?



Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:02 PM
^ Yeah, they offer it for like 500-1000 here haha. I bet its alot cheaper online. But I also have seen vehicles rust with them installed.

Here it is.. they said they installed steel that was thicker than what GM used in the first place. He apologized for painting it red, he didn't have another color. Of course I didn't care.




99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:05 PM
Oh.. and stephen steele - This is how we deal with it



99 cav 2.2L 212,000 miles
97 cav 2.2L 110,000 miles
91 cav 2.2L 236,000 miles RIP
04 Silverado Z71 Ext.Cab 55,000 miles
01 Suzuki SV650 22,000 miles
97 Arctic Cat ZRT 600 6,000 miles
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:18 PM
Even with snowmobiles, Michigan weather sucks. Freezing ass in the winter & humid like a sauna in the summer. It's never really comfortable here at all.






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Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Friday, March 21, 2008 11:01 AM
stephen steele wrote:

man im glad i live in texas, we never snow so no salt. i cant imagine how you guys can deal with that weather up there. nice you got it fixed though.

i remember seeing something on that tv show truck u. that there is a device that you put on your frame and it does not let rust build up. have you guys heard of it?


We can buy that stuff here at Canadian Tire. It's $300 and warranties your car for 5 years free of rust.

Taken From Canadian Tire Website:
Provides total rust protection for the entire vehicle body, inside and out
Used by industry professionals in some of the harshest industrial conditions for 20 years (salt harvesting, mining, aviation, snow removal)
Prevents the onset of rust and inhibits the spread on vehicles that already have rust
Environmentally friendly (chemical-free technology is completely harmless to the driver and vehicle)
One-time installation includes annual checkups
Protects the entire automobile, not just the areas affected by undercoating
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Friday, March 21, 2008 2:22 PM
mines got a little hole there, passed inspection though, they didnt see it...gonna have to get it welded up...


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Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Friday, March 21, 2008 7:05 PM
Michael Antle wrote:

stephen steele wrote:

man im glad i live in texas, we never snow so no salt. i cant imagine how you guys can deal with that weather up there. nice you got it fixed though.

i remember seeing something on that tv show truck u. that there is a device that you put on your frame and it does not let rust build up. have you guys heard of it?


We can buy that stuff here at Canadian Tire. It's $300 and warranties your car for 5 years free of rust.

Taken From Canadian Tire Website:
Provides total rust protection for the entire vehicle body, inside and out
Used by industry professionals in some of the harshest industrial conditions for 20 years (salt harvesting, mining, aviation, snow removal)
Prevents the onset of rust and inhibits the spread on vehicles that already have rust
Environmentally friendly (chemical-free technology is completely harmless to the driver and vehicle)
One-time installation includes annual checkups
Protects the entire automobile, not just the areas affected by undercoating



Does that actually work? Its a little too expensive to buy just to try out.
Re: 97 cav rusted out frame picture
Friday, March 21, 2008 7:42 PM
steve white wrote:

Michael Antle wrote:

stephen steele wrote:

man im glad i live in texas, we never snow so no salt. i cant imagine how you guys can deal with that weather up there. nice you got it fixed though.

i remember seeing something on that tv show truck u. that there is a device that you put on your frame and it does not let rust build up. have you guys heard of it?


We can buy that stuff here at Canadian Tire. It's $300 and warranties your car for 5 years free of rust.

Taken From Canadian Tire Website:
Provides total rust protection for the entire vehicle body, inside and out
Used by industry professionals in some of the harshest industrial conditions for 20 years (salt harvesting, mining, aviation, snow removal)
Prevents the onset of rust and inhibits the spread on vehicles that already have rust
Environmentally friendly (chemical-free technology is completely harmless to the driver and vehicle)
One-time installation includes annual checkups
Protects the entire automobile, not just the areas affected by undercoating



Does that actually work? Its a little too expensive to buy just to try out.


Sounds like some form of sacrifical anode.



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