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swap question!!
Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:53 PM
i have a 97 z24 im looking to swap motor and trans from a 95 regal.... i have the donor car what will i need to get fabbed?? and what do i need other than motor trans computer and axels and harness??
im doing research so i know what to im looking at come build time ....

Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 16, 2012 5:36 AM
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=48579&t=48579

2nd thread stickied at the top of this section, and in all caps.

hard to miss...





i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 16, 2012 9:18 AM
Well, the first question is which engine do you have? the 3100 or the 3800?

Then, chose on of the first two stickies at the top, and go from there.





Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 16, 2012 3:33 PM
3800 out of 95 regal
Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 16, 2012 3:36 PM
the thing i didnt see was the axles .... am i keeping the 2.4 axles or going to the ones for the 2.2 or the ones out of the regal donor
Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:17 AM
What transmission are you using? 4t60e? I believe that the output shaft on those will accept the J-body axles, but I'm not 100% on it.

Just for the information on the swap in general, though, the ouput side of the transmissions do not vary between the 2.4 and 2.2 vehicles. The only difference in on the input side, because the engines have different bellhousing patterns. You just need to verify that the J-body axle will mate to the 4t60e transmission.

On another note, fitting that transmission in there will be tight. It's larger than the 4t40e found in the J-body.





Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:47 AM
Ok thanks..... My boy is doing his in a 3400 does anyone on here fab the lower mount for the 3400 swap
Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:24 PM
Shandall hines wrote:

Ok thanks..... My boy is doing his in a 3400 does anyone on here fab the lower mount for the 3400 swap


http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=59418&t=59418
Re: swap question!!
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:05 PM
One more question ? Tranny mounts?
Re: swap question!!
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:32 PM
Also just a question will the 2.4 tranny bolt to 3.4?
I know they 2.2 will
Re: swap question!!
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:48 AM
Sticky up top. Read it.







i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick

Re: swap question!!
Thursday, July 19, 2012 5:11 AM
Shandall hines wrote:

Also just a question will the 2.4 tranny bolt to 3.4?
I know they 2.2 will
From this thread, just a few posts up:
Mr. Quick wrote:

Just for the information on the swap in general, though, the ouput side of the transmissions do not vary between the 2.4 and 2.2 vehicles. The only difference in on the input side, because the engines have different bellhousing patterns.
People, if you can't read stickies, or even posts in questions threads, how do you expect to be able to do a swap like this? It takes an attention to detail that seems to evade many on these forums.





Re: swap question!!
Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:37 PM
thanks i think i got it now
Re: swap question!!
Friday, July 20, 2012 11:16 AM
OK 3800 MOUNTS IS THERE ANY CERTAIN MOUNT THAT YOU GUYS CAN RECOMMEND??
Re: swap question!!
Friday, July 20, 2012 1:48 PM
1st of all the 95 has a series 1 motor which is a gutless motor a 3400 in will make almost the same power as the series 1 SC 3800 motor. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME

2nd Every mount is custom 1 way or another even more so cause you have a 97.

just do a 3400 swap or spend the extra and buy a series 2 engine



JBO since July 30, 2001
Re: swap question!!
Friday, July 20, 2012 2:28 PM
Didn't even catch that your engine is a Series I...yeah, don't bother. You'll get the weight of a large V6 with the power of a small one, for an awful lot of work.






Re: swap question!!
Friday, July 20, 2012 8:24 PM
I'm asking as may questions as possible I haven't bought the car yet when I went to look at it I saw it wasn't the same motor so can u just give me a break here
Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 23, 2012 4:37 AM
Shandall hines wrote:

I'm asking as may questions as possible I haven't bought the car yet when I went to look at it I saw it wasn't the same motor so can u just give me a break here
If you're taking offense to people telling you not to bother with that engine, that's simply advice, and no reason to be offended. If you haven't bought it yet, find yourself another donor. Do a 3400 or a Series 2 3800. The 3800 is considerably more weight, and if it barely puts out more power than a lighter one that needs less work, why would you want to do it?





Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 23, 2012 9:32 PM
I understand that I've been reading a lot into this swap and after I looked at the car I knew it was the wrong motor.... No I didn't take offence at all if I thought I knew it all I wouldn't ask ... Even been on the furrow forum and found a guy that will do my harness for me once i get every thing together
Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 23, 2012 9:36 PM
Also what would be the best tranny to put behind the 3800?
Re: swap question!!
Monday, July 23, 2012 10:35 PM
Shandall hines wrote:

Also what would be the best tranny to put behind the 3800?


Are you serious!?





i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick

Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:27 AM
A tranny pre-op is the best tranny.



Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:35 AM
Lanman31337 - Cavfire wrote:

A tranny pre-op is the best tranny.
Bwahahahaha





Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:25 PM
I guess im just a big laugh but im serious ive read that the 2.2 bolts to it and abot 3 more so im asking before i spend money on somethibg i dont need ... Laugh im serious

Re: swap question!!
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:27 PM
The GM FWD V6 engines share the same bolt pattern as the OHV 4 cylinder engines ( the two found in the 3rd Generation J-body cars are the 2.2OHV and the 2200)

If you have a car equipped with an OHV engine already, you can retain your existing transmission. If you are swapping to a car with a DOHC engine, you need to swap your transmission as well.

Options for auto are the 4t40e (4 speed auto) that comes in the J, the 4t45e that comes the N body cars. 4t65e or 4t65HD these transmissions are found in W and C body cars, and the 3t40e which is strongly NOT recommended
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