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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Friday, April 29, 2005 8:11 AM
the reason its illegal is because its easy to use and cheap to get. 500 dollars for the amount of HP is a big increase. And 99% of the people who put N20 on a car are going to use it to race. They make it illegal to have it armed and ready to prevent street racing. If 99% of the people who use N20 are going to race, it only seems logically to make it against the law to use it on the streets. Further more, a cop cant look at your car and say ohh hes using N20 i gotta give him a ticket. A cop cant search your trunk without reasonable cause. Spay on the streets all you want, waste 5 bucks of N20 so you can merge a little faster, no one is going to notice. The law is there to scare people from using it on the street, they really cant tell if your using it, unless your some idiot who purges right in front of them.


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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Friday, April 29, 2005 11:37 AM
I know in the state of washington its has been told to me by a state officer that the only time it becomes a problem is when you have 600 LBS or more........10Lbs bottle as plong as it is properly fastend down u can have in the vehicle and it is identifed on the exterior of the vehicle
Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Friday, April 29, 2005 3:58 PM
Well chew on thins one I know that in sum state Diesel trucks can use NOS and propane and its legal i do kno thins cuz my dad uses it and I drive my car with it and have never gotten introuble 4 it if u carry more than 600LBS u need a permit
Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:16 PM
I don't want some punk being allowed to use nitrous next to me on the street. we have enough accidents already.


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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:27 PM
Derek724 wrote:

I don't want some punk being allowed to use nitrous next to me on the street. we have enough accidents already.


this is my point though... nitrous doesn't make a car dangerous. The driver does. Nitrous doesn't make a difference. Out of all the stupid streetracing jerks you see, swerving in and out of traffic, few to none of them are using nitrous. As i pointed out before, the kid in the, say, Subaru WRX could drive much faster and harder than the same kid in a J with a 50 shot of nitrous. Whether or not someone uses nitrous is essentially irrelevant, unless he is trying to make a 1 or 2 second difference in his track time.




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:33 PM
Ok, first and foremost, I agree w/ the fact that nitrous being illegal for street use is completely ignorant. However, the reason the laws are in place is because of the V-8's that already have 300+ hp stock. The laws were emplace a long time ago before modding of compacts, back when most of the modded cars were high school kids w/ a 69 Z28. You take one of those, add a 200 shot, and you got some serious power. If you take a J w/ a 50 shot, it wont be noticeable enough for anyone to tell from outside of the car. Stupid laws are emplaced and then never reviewed or revised. Just my 2 cents. Thanks.



Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Wednesday, May 04, 2005 6:53 PM
Q_Bert wrote:

Ok, first and foremost, I agree w/ the fact that nitrous being illegal for street use is completely ignorant. However, the reason the laws are in place is because of the V-8's that already have 300+ hp stock. The laws were emplace a long time ago before modding of compacts, back when most of the modded cars were high school kids w/ a 69 Z28. You take one of those, add a 200 shot, and you got some serious power. If you take a J w/ a 50 shot, it wont be noticeable enough for anyone to tell from outside of the car. Stupid laws are emplaced and then never reviewed or revised. Just my 2 cents. Thanks.


im not arguing with you, but just saying that thats a pretty dumb reason because you take a 300hp car and add a 200 shot of nitrous...........500 hp.....you take a 3000gt or an eclipse or a supra and make it 500 hp, no nitrous, same thing, a 500 hp car, why is nitrous treated different


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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:29 PM
rob wrote:

Derek724 wrote:

I don't want some punk being allowed to use nitrous next to me on the street. we have enough accidents already.


this is my point though... nitrous doesn't make a car dangerous. The driver does. Nitrous doesn't make a difference. Out of all the stupid streetracing jerks you see, swerving in and out of traffic, few to none of them are using nitrous. As i pointed out before, the kid in the, say, Subaru WRX could drive much faster and harder than the same kid in a J with a 50 shot of nitrous. Whether or not someone uses nitrous is essentially irrelevant, unless he is trying to make a 1 or 2 second difference in his track time.


Nitrous does make a car dangerous! I drive a 140hp/crank Cavalier everyday in medium traffic to and from work......I am use to the pedal after having the car for 2 years now, I know how to accelerate (auto) when I need to pass someone, I know when to brake to avoid hitting the ride in front of me.......Muscle memory, you don't think by adding a 50 shot or 75 shot to my ride is not gonna change my driving habbits? The car will suddenly have a boost of power that I am not used to which means I would have to adjust myself, my muscle memory to drive the damn thing. And please don't say "then you shouldn't use nitrous" because that will just tell me that it makes a car dangerous to a non user like me or I am not experienced with nitrous. Well to get experience....you have to use it.

Nitrous being illegal and 350 gto or 300 mustang being as fast as they are not being illegal is like saying my borla cat-back is loud officer but so isn't that mustang that just drove by with the flowmaster dual exhaust.

We get picked on I guess.


P.S. All this talk about nitrous, I wouldn't mind getting a kit.
Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:14 PM
You guys all still seem to be missing the point. Nitrous is illegal because it is only used for drag racing, period. Whether you are you are racing another car or are all alone the law considers wide open throttle to be drag racing. It has nothing to do with how much power a car has or what kind of car it is, it is illegal to race any car on the street. I am not saying i agree with the laws but that really doesn't matter. Anyone who can't understand this concept is a retard.


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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:14 PM
I'm not getting involved in this "argument"... even though I'd really LOVE to... lol


Nitrous Oxide is NOT illegal for use in vehicles in the Province of British Columbia. Yes, I've checked.

However, speeding is.. so what's the point?




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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:17 PM
Eh, I forgot to add this:

Quote:

from http://www.island.net/~cihp/modify.html#nitrous

Nitrous Oxide Systems
This method of adding extra horsepower on demand is commonly found in drag racing vehicles and motorhomes. Nitrous oxide gas is injected into the engine intake system for short term increases in power off the starting line or when pulling up a steep hill.

The system is not regulated by the Motor Vehicle Act and Regulations or by the standards used at Designated Inspection Facilities. The only restriction is in the use of the storage cylinder. Refill depots will refuse to fill a cylinder that has passed the five year tank certification period.

The danger here comes from not religiously following the manufacturers instructions for the installation and use of the system. Severe engine damage may result in only a matter of seconds when nitrous is not properly installed and operated.

The nitrous oxide used is adulterated by sulfur dioxide to prevent its abuse by inhaling. This gas causes severe nausea when inhaled, and the storage tank must be properly vented to the exterior of the vehicle using the braided lines specified in the installation instructions.


Drivers of vehicles equipped with nitrous oxide systems are required by the Transportation of Dangerous Goods rules to notify BC Ferries personnel of the installation prior to getting onto the ferry.


So yeah.. if you're in BC... it's legal!




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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:25 AM
haha BC is great cause lots of things are legal there... In ON it's illegal to have pretty much any compressed gasses in your car without a sign saying so. All our propane or natural gas vehicles have signs stating so.
And nitrous bottles of any size are illegal to be hooked up, you can carry them to the track but the lines can't be connected, People do carry their 20lb propane tanks to the local gas station to get them filled and don't have signs, so I dunno for sure on size.
Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, May 08, 2005 4:54 PM
Skilz10179 wrote:

You guys all still seem to be missing the point. Nitrous is illegal because it is only used for drag racing, period. Whether you are you are racing another car or are all alone the law considers wide open throttle to be drag racing. It has nothing to do with how much power a car has or what kind of car it is, it is illegal to race any car on the street. I am not saying i agree with the laws but that really doesn't matter. Anyone who can't understand this concept is a retard.


Don't you think that's being a little harsh? First of all, you say that it's illegal to drive with a car at wide open throttle? Now maybe I'm just rare, but if this is true, I've broken the law thousands of times trying to accelerate to 70 in a tiny on-ramp onto a crowded, New York interstate. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just want to see the law.

Second of all, I'm not sure if you've used a mild shot of nitrous in a j-body, and it's nothing like drag racing. It's like driving a slightly more powerful car. There's no reason nitrous should ONLY be for drag racing. If nitrous in our cars should only for drag racing just because of the power, then people shouldn't be able to drive around with V-8s.




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Monday, May 09, 2005 12:17 PM
rob wrote:

Skilz10179 wrote:

You guys all still seem to be missing the point. Nitrous is illegal because it is only used for drag racing, period. Whether you are you are racing another car or are all alone the law considers wide open throttle to be drag racing. It has nothing to do with how much power a car has or what kind of car it is, it is illegal to race any car on the street. I am not saying i agree with the laws but that really doesn't matter. Anyone who can't understand this concept is a retard.


Don't you think that's being a little harsh? First of all, you say that it's illegal to drive with a car at wide open throttle? Now maybe I'm just rare, but if this is true, I've broken the law thousands of times trying to accelerate to 70 in a tiny on-ramp onto a crowded, New York interstate. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just want to see the law.

Second of all, I'm not sure if you've used a mild shot of nitrous in a j-body, and it's nothing like drag racing. It's like driving a slightly more powerful car. There's no reason nitrous should ONLY be for drag racing. If nitrous in our cars should only for drag racing just because of the power, then people shouldn't be able to drive around with V-8s.


I don't think i'm being too hash at all. Again, people don't used nitrous to merge into interstates. I've used plenty on nitrous on my car(10-15 bottles), a Zex kit and a NOS Pro Race Fogger direct port system. Accelerating too fast(drag racing) is against the law, no matter what kind of car/truck or what engine. I don't make the laws, go argue your Secretary of State if you don't agree with them.


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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:38 PM
anyone here been ticketed for nitrous use?




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Monday, May 23, 2005 8:35 PM
Nitrous is legal to have in your vehicle where ever you want and being connected and full here in MO. Now getting caught using it i guess would only be a problem if you were over the speed limit.


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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:10 PM
In texas you can have it but not use it on the streets (pubic highway.) You have an 03 Sunfire, you should have no problem getting to 70mph. If you are, you have bigger problems with your engine. Go get it checked out.

As for your comment about it not being explosive, wrong. It will explode. It's not combustable but it is flammable. Why do you think that it is injected into engines. If it was just for the cold effect, then CO2 would do the same thing but your engine can't burn CO2. CO2 is used to put out fires. Not being intoxicating? When was the last time you were at the dentist. They use NO2 to dumb you out for teeth work. Also, it will get you high quick. Almost as good as pure oxygen. And just to say again it will explode if ignited.

I found this for Maine...
Quote:

.Maine Nitrous Oxide: A bill has been introduced to expand permissible use of cars equipped with nitrous-oxide systems to include vehicles en route to a car show, off-highway competition or fill station. In 2003, working with the Maine Custom Auto Association, SEMA helped amend Maine legislation that originally threatened to prohibit the operation of vehicles equipped with nitrous oxide or other "power booster systems" (e.g. superchargers) on public roads. As enacted, the law currently permits vehicles to be equipped with nitrous-oxide systems if all canisters of nitrous have been removed or if the vehicle is en route to or from a racetrack.




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:11 PM
Found this for Arkansas...

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4/20/05 Nitrous Guys in Arkansas "breathe" a little easier...
Remember last month when Drag News reported on the new Arkansas “Eric’s Law” making it illegal to have a nitrous system on a street driven vehicle? We questioned the wording of the law defining if the use, or the mere possession of nitrous would send you to a possible 30 days in the slammer. Well the diligent folks at the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) took notice as well and after some extensive dialogue with Arkansas lawmakers, have lightened the law’s description to allow a highway driven vehicle to be equipped with a nitrous kit. The SEMA effort accomplished an amendment to the bill to protect manufacturers and hobbyists from a blanket ban. As amended, the mere presence of nitrous systems on passenger cars or motorcycles does not constitute a violation, nitrous systems must simply be disconnected when a vehicle is being driven on a public road or the nitrous oxide containers must be removed. Kudos go out to former Arkansas state legislator Jerry Allison, Wayne Styles of Centerville Dragway and Jeb Burnett of Deep Freeze Cryogenics for their efforts with SEMA in supporting the amendment..




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:30 PM
I just called the Abilene Police Department and asked them, they told me.

It's more or less classified under FDA and drug law.

It is illegal for you have have it if you are under 18. Controlled Substance (FDA)

It's illegal for a minor to purchase it. Controlled Substance (FDA)

Cannot have it hooked up/connected/armed in your vehicle (TXDOT)

Only carry 15 lbs or less in a vehicle with a permit (US DOT)

It is consided a hazmat item if over 15 lbs. But they said this also goes for Gasoline over so many gallons and Propane over so many lbs. (US DOT)

You can carry it to or from shows/drags/ or to get it filled. (US DOT)

Anybody with a drivers/learner's permit may not carry it in the vehicle (US DOT)

They made sure to let me know this....

The reason NO2 is seen as not allowed on the streets is becuase 95% of the time the person getting cited for it is street racing, speeding, or has it hooked up. It's not NO2 that gets people busted, it's what they are doing with it. Texas looks at NO2 as a power adder, must like a Turbocharger or Supercharger.

So to sum it up, you can have it just don't use it on the streets. Also, don't get caught selling it to a minor. It's a Distributing a Controlled Substance violation. SO not good fo you.

Cops are very helpful if your not an ass.




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:32 PM
Sigh...

Nitrous Oxide is not flammable right out of the tank. Do you think your dentist would stuff explosive materials into your head? Not likely. What if they nicked an existing filling with the drill? Spark and your head go boom? Ha ha.. there's headline for ya.

BTW combustible = flammable. So your claim of it being combustible but not flammable is hogwash.

Once you shove Nitrous Oxide in the engine... under compression and extreme heat.. it splits into oxygen and nitrogen... the nitrogen is inert, but the oxygen is (obviously) used in the combustion process.

Until you put it in the engine... and compress it.. and heat it up... it does nothing.

(I've actually held a propane torch to the purge on my nitrous tank... no fireballs... much to my dismay)






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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:41 PM
Got them switched... NO2 it combustable not flammable. They do not equal each other. Thet are two very seperate things...

Quote:

The U.S. Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) defines a flammable liquid as "any liquid having a flash point below 100 deg. F. (37.8 deg. C.), except any mixture having components with flash points of 100 deg. F. (37.8 deg. C.) or higher, the total of which make up 99 percent or more of the total volume of the mixture. Flammable liquids shall be known as Class I liquids."


Quote:

The U.S. Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) defines a combustible liquid as "any liquid having a flash point at or above 100 deg. F (37.8 deg. C), but below 200 deg. F (93.3 deg. C), except any mixture having components with flashpoints of 200 deg. F (93.3 deg. C), or higher, the total volume of which make up 99 percent or more of the total volume of the mixture."


They put lots of things in you that can explode / light on fire. Nitro Glycerine is used as a medicine and an explosive. Just depends on the way it is prepared.




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 1:55 PM
OH and this is from the MSDS of Nitrous Oxide.

Quote:

5. FIRE FIGHTING MEASURES

FLASH POINT: Nonflammable

AUTOIGNITION TEMPERATURE: N/Av

FLAMMABLE LIMITS: Nonflammable
LOWER:
UPPER:

EXTINGUISHING MEDIA: Use what is appropriate for surrounding fire.

SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING INSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT: Wear self-contained breathing apparatus and full protective clothing. Keep fire exposed cylinders cool with water spray. If possible, stop the product flow.

HAZARDOUS COMBUSTION PRODUCTS: None

UNUSUAL FIRE AND EXPLOSION HAZARDS: Supports combustion of other materials, particularly when heated. Cylinder rupture may occur under fire conditions.




Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 2:01 PM
Ok, you're right... combustible /= flammable... but in this case... when it comes to Nitrous Oxide... it's NEITHER!

So I was 0.01% right




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Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Sunday, June 12, 2005 2:06 PM
0.01% Thats all good.



Re: is nitrous legal for street use in YOUR state?
Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:43 AM
Dont think so........being legal for street use
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