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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Saturday, May 17, 2014 12:44 PM
You may have mentioned this on Facebook somewhere, but I'm wondering what you did with the IAT sensor? How much room is there in that area?



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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Saturday, May 17, 2014 12:51 PM
I ended up buying another intake manifold. threading the IAT hole is a permanent modification, so eventually I'm going to swap manifolds.

I bought a GM 3 bar TMAP that is going to go in the stock location (need to slot the mounting hole to clear the TVS)
I'm also going to ditch the pre blower IAT and just run post blower and wire that to the PCM. I'm tired of having redundant sensors.


I also sold the racepak IQ3 dash and am working on something different. I re-installed my black cat gauges for now. I'll post up when I get the new setup in one piece.





Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Saturday, May 17, 2014 12:59 PM
DaFlyinSkwirl (Pj) wrote:

I ended up buying another intake manifold.

I was really hoping to not hear that :/

I'm wondering if I could thread a small elbow in there and rig up the sensor that way.



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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09 PM
Why did you ditch the iq3? Going with individual gauges?



Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:23 AM
jason norwood wrote:

Why did you ditch the iq3? Going with individual gauges?


a number of things...

-I can't quickly read and mentally comprehend numbers at a quick glance.
-glare issues.
-wash-out issues with heat and cold.
-OBD2 module that is extremely weak and overly expensive (this was the BIG one)

Racepak makes a great product and has a lot of flexibility... but IMO, it's marketed more towards cars that are running stand-alone controllers or carb'd guys with EFI conversions.

the long answer?


Racepak components talk to eachother via a can-bus network they dubbed "VNET". every readout that is monitored needs to have a VNET ID. Kind of like it's assigned spot in a train. The instructions transmitted are always in the correct order.
The problem with an OBD2 interface that needs to conform to this is that every single thing the PCM reports on the OBD2 port NEEDS to have a VNET ID. Our PCM (which is pretty weak) can output at least 50-60 numbers... either translated or raw voltage.... and the Racepak IQ3 can only comprehend 32 at the max with the most up to date firmware.

Their solution? Arbitrariliy pick 12 possible PIDs to be displayed and that's it. 4 of them are relevant to us. And, when you log with HPT, you need to unplug the module anyway and you lose those 4 displays on the IQ3.

So I sold most of the racepak equipment already. I've used that to fund another gauge setup which I think is going to be far more useful and clean as hell looking.

analog gauges are much better to be read at a glance. Tach especially. I don't think I EVER looked at the digital sweep bar and instead just used the sequential shift lights to always nail my shifts.





Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:12 AM


=)





Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:24 AM
This just further necessitates a photo-shoot with your car and kyles.



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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Monday, May 26, 2014 5:36 AM
^ yep, x2



Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Friday, May 30, 2014 6:24 PM
Starting the new gauge layout





I used diamond grit dremel accessories to cut and grind the carbon fiber. Worked really well.


Finished up. Just need to make sure it fits, install the LEDs and wire it all up.


If I end up not looking the aeroforce gauges I'm going all analog.










Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Friday, May 30, 2014 6:26 PM
Looks fantastic. That being said, I bet you end up going all analog.



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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Friday, May 30, 2014 9:05 PM
Y3llowCav wrote:

Looks fantastic. That being said, I bet you end up going all analog.


I honestly won't be surprised if this does happen. I'm kind of over the digital screen thing






Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Monday, June 02, 2014 8:06 AM
this makes me want to keep my engine and blower and finish the build in a new shell. missed the christening of this thread in the boost section. thought you were going turbo for awhile.


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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Monday, June 02, 2014 4:23 PM
s1lver_N1p (forum_Naz1) wrote:

this makes me want to keep my engine and blower and finish the build in a new shell. missed the christening of this thread in the boost section. thought you were going turbo for awhile.


I got as far as bolting the manifold and turbo in place. After which I noticed that the drain position was interfering with the bolt to hold the housing onto the CHRA. Attempting to clock it did not help. I mounted the turbo inverted to help with the drain position, but then the exhaust outlet was interfering with the body and fabricating the downpipe/ wastegate dump to fit would have been impossible.

So I sold the turbo crap and went s/c instead. Then OTTP ran this GP and I jumped in on it. The M62 was on the car for about 6 months lol





Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:23 PM
got some new tires Bridgestone Potenza RE-11s

got the tune better (still not completely dialed in)
got the alcohol injection working great

hit the track. I cannot get this car off the line for @!#$, but it obviously has killer top end.



my IAT2s are terrible too, but a bag of ice on the supercharger helps a lot between runs. My very first pass (right off the street, having driven almost 2 hours from work to get there) was a 13.4.

the car has way more potential in it based on the trap speed. I'm looking at LSD and perhaps some drag radials or slicks for the track.





Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:46 PM
Nice. Im sure you're going to get in the 12's easy. Keep up the work pj. I'm watching on facebook and hear still.







Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:26 AM
Hook up a purge button for your meth. Will allow you to purge/run the meth while sitting still. and bring down the IAT's. You obviously do this is small amounts or it bogs the motor down too much, but does make a difference.



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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:27 AM
Addicted to meth wrote:

Hook up a purge button for your meth. Will allow you to purge/run the meth while sitting still. and bring down the IAT's. You obviously do this is small amounts or it bogs the motor down too much, but does make a difference.

I keep meaning to do this. Would be really helpful.



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Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:35 PM
Y3llowCav wrote:

Addicted to meth wrote:

Hook up a purge button for your meth. Will allow you to purge/run the meth while sitting still. and bring down the IAT's. You obviously do this is small amounts or it bogs the motor down too much, but does make a difference.

I keep meaning to do this. Would be really helpful.


I have thought of this... actually have a cruise switch in the car that I was thinking about using as the purge button.





Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Monday, July 14, 2014 4:57 AM
Not a bad time for not dialed in and not getting traction. Keep up the good stuff Pj!



Re: HavBlue - now with TVS
Friday, September 19, 2014 7:51 AM
Nice setup ! I was considering using the Harrop , but that kit didn`t become available soon enough for my budget ,so I hope to break 13 s with my m62 once I get it tuned .


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