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Saab = Ecotec?
Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:57 AM
It's my understanding the Saab 9-3 2.0 engine is the Ecotec, what about the 2.3L Saab, is it Ecotec, Quad-4, or something else entirely?
I'm thinking it would be nice to just drop in the engine, harness, computer, etc from a wrecked 250hp Saab into an Eco J-body. BTW, are the various power ratings on the 2.3 Saab turbo as simple as boost settings or are there internal engine differences?

Re: Saab = Ecotec?
Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:47 AM
Ecotec Family

Family 0
A special low-displacement version of Ecotec is used on entry-level subcompact cars from Opel/Vauxhall. It features dual intake ports (hence the TwinPort name) with a choke closes one port in low RPM range, providing better air swirl pattern for higher torque levels, as well as better fuel economy. Cast-iron block, DOHC valvetrains.

1.0 L Straight-3 (998 cc): TwinPort, 73.4 mm (2.89 in) bore, 78.6 mm (2.94 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 60 hp (40 kW) and 65 ft.lbf (88 Nm) of torque.
1.2 L (1229 cc): TwinPort, 73.4 mm (2.89 in) bore, 72.6 mm (2.86 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 80 hp (59 kW) and 81 ft.lbf (110 Nm) of torque.
Family 0 engines are used in:

2001 Opel Corsa

Family I
Updated versions of low-displacement Ecotec, featuring TwinPort technology and aluminum block. A new version of 1.8L Family I engine, featuring Euro IV compliancy, DCVCP (Double Continuous Variable Cam Phasing technology, a variant of VVT) and ingegrated catalytic converter, will enter production Spring 2005.

1.4 L (1364 cc): TwinPort, 73.4 mm (2.89 in) bore, 80.6 mm (3.17 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 90 hp (66 kW) and 92 ft.lbf (125 Nm) of torque.
1.6 L (1598 cc): TwinPort, 79 mm (3.11 in) bore, 81.5 mm (3.21 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 105 hp (77 kW) and 111 ft.lbf (150 Nm) of torque.
1.6 L (1598 cc) (phased out): 79 mm (3.11 in) bore, 81.5 mm (3.21 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 100 hp (74 kW) and 111 ft.lbf (150 Nm) of torque.
1.8 L (1796 cc): 80.5 mm (3.17 in) bore, 88.2 mm (3.47 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 122 hp (90 kW) and 123 ft.lbf (167 Nm) of torque.
1.8 L (1796 cc): DCVCP, 80.5 mm (3.17 in) bore, 88.2 mm (3.47 in) stroke, 10.5:1 compression, 140 hp (103 kW) and 129 ft.lbf (175 Nm) of torque.
Family I engines are used in:

2001 Opel Corsa
2003 Opel Tigra
2004 Opel Astra
2004 Chevrolet Viva
2005 Chevrolet Niva
2005 Opel Zafira

Family II
The most powerful engines in the range, Family II versions feature aluminum block that is slightly different from other Ecotec families. They are used on top-level Opel/Vauxhall cars, and 2.2L engine comes as standard on many American models.


SAAB
Saab used a 2.0 L version in the Saab 9-3. It had numerous features, including special oil jets to cool the pistons, an oil cooler, and stronger pistons, connecting rods and cylinder head. The Saab engine also features electronic throttle control, as do many Ecotecs.


Turbo
Opel/Vauxhal offer turbocharged version of 2.0 L(1998 cc) Ecotec in a cast-iron block; it features 86 mm (3.39 in) bore and stroke, 9.5:1 compression, 175 hp (129 kW) and 195 ft.lbf (265 Nm) of torque.

This engine is used in:

Opel Astra
2004 Opel Vectra
2005 Opel Zafira

DI
A high-end direct injection version of the 2.2 L Ecotec is an option for:

Opel Vectra
Opel Signum

L61
The Ecotec 2.2, model L61 (or L42 for the CNG version), is a straight-4 automobile engine. Displacement is 2.2 L (2189 cc) with an 86 mm (3.38 in) bore and 94.6 mm (3.72 in) stroke. Compression is 9.5:1 or 10:1, delivering 135 hp to 143 hp (101 kW to 107 kW) and 142 ft.lbf to 152 ft.lbf (193 Nm to 206 Nm) of torque. The Ecotec line is manufactured in Tonawanda, New York, Kaiserslautern, Germany, and (for Saturn) in Spring Hill, Tennessee. The L61-powered Saturn ION replaced the Saturn-powered Saturn S-series.

There are a few variations to the standard L61. The new Chevrolet Malibu uses a version with electronic throttle control and a special unitized exhaust manifold and catalytic converter. The 2003 Saturn L-Series has a high output version with higher (10:1) compression and hotter camshaft. The Malibu and Saturn versions also use returnless fuel injection.

The 2.2 L Ecotec is used in the following cars:

2000-2002 Saturn L-Series
2002-2004 Chevrolet Cavalier
2002-2005 Pontiac Sunfire
2003-2005 Saturn L-Series (high output)
2003 Vauxhall VX220/Opel Speedster
2004 Chevrolet Classic
2004 Chevrolet Malibu
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt (140 hp/150 ft.lbf)
Oldsmobile Alero
Pontiac Grand Am
Saturn ION
Saturn VUE
Opel Astra
Opel Vectra
Opel Zafira

L42
The Ecotec 2.2, model L42 is the CNG version of the Ecotec 2.2. It delivers 129 hp (96 kW) and 129 ft.lbf (175 Nm).


LSJ
The LSJ is a de-stroked (to 86 mm) version of the Ecotec with an Eaton M62 Roots-type supercharger and air-to-liquid intercooler. It is rated at 200 hp and 149 ft.lbf, but dynamometer tests have shown 20% more power in actual cars.

This engine is used in:

2004 Saturn ION Red Line
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt

LE5
The LE5 is a larger 2.4 L (2384 cc) version of the Ecotec. Both the 88 mm bore and 98 mm stroke are larger, and Variable Valve Timing improves low-end torque. Both horsepower and torque will sit at 170.

The LE5 will be used in:

2005 Chevrolet Cobalt
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2006 Saturn Sky



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Re: Saab = Ecotec?
Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:52 AM
In Lehman's terms. The 2.3L is a Opel/Saab derived engine aka Ecopower or Ecotec.
The Eco in the 2003 9-3 is a all-new unit derived from the 2.2L found in the J.

I knew one day it will cause confusion, slapping that old name to this new engine. F-ing market ploy. lol





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