ready to order HAAS $2799 turbo kit stage 2!!! - Boost Forum
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Awesome, cant wait!!! Just wanted to share the excitement! Great kit, great price! Who else on here is ordering from HAAS or has already?
ok....so....you have this kit? or you're getting it?
I have been talking with HAAS via email and they seem like a solid company. I'm just trying to sort out exactly what I want, but I am 90% sure I will be getting this kit.
Mike Andrews, how much boost are you planning on running? Are you getting the 3 inch down pipe? I'm just curious how others will be setting up their kits. I figure if enough of us have the kit, we can help each other out. I was hoping to run 10-12 PSI using Haas' SAFC instead of their FMU. I'm going to go with the 3 inch down pipe. According to one of my emails from Haas they have an exhaust setup they are working on, but I donít have a price or release date.
If anyone else is planning on getting this kit, how much boost are you planning on running? Stock internals? FMU or SAFC?
I've been looking for a kit for my son. He's got the '03 Cavalier and I'm looking to get this for him for Christmas. I don't think I would have him set up to the 10 psi boost range, though he might have some fun doing it. Anyway, I saw they have their special going on, which looks like a great deal and I just read what Twisted wrote and I have to respond.
Apparently they switched their setup to include an EIC (extra injector controller) instead of the FMU. They told me it's fully adjustable (based on boost AND RPM) and it allows us to keep the stock fpr and injectors. Asuming they have the directions setup right and I can install the kit easily, this just seems to make the kit that much easier. No FMU to mess with, no injectors to mess with and the extra functionality of allowing user control right in the cockpit.
Maybe I'm just overly excited about this option, but it seems like for that price and amount of "extras" my son will be happy and I'll have a hard time not switching my 02 Supercharged for his 03 Turbocharged.
I am waiting until Monday (Nov 15th) because that is when the Christmas sale starts. $2799 for an intercooled kit and comes with everything in order to run 10 psi is best thing i have seen on the market. 10 psi is 100+ added hp. That is better than all of the other kits for the Ecotec. Just cant wait. I have to put a "fast" mustang back to sleep as soon as get my turbo kit on. Mustang drver is talking alot of crap for only 280hp. a 200hp ecotec should be able to beat him badly.
Cavys Rock wrote:
I've been looking for a kit for my son. He's got the '03 Cavalier and I'm looking to get this for him for Christmas.
World's greatest dad.
Wish my parents would have a turbo kit sittin under the tree for me. <br>
i live in my car....do u wanna adopt me and then buy me a turbo? lol...................lucky son u have!!! we need more dads pimpin out there sons rides.........if my son where older i would have him runnin major boost! but he's only 1........BUt WHAT IS THE BEST TURBO KIT??? My 1997 2.2L is @ 96k miles right now so i gotta rebuild from scratch ...what do u guys recommend?
BUt WHAT IS THE BEST TURBO KIT??? My 1997 2.2L is @ 96k miles right now so i gotta rebuild from scratch ...what do u guys recommend?
If i were you, i would order the HAAS 8:9.1 pistons, rods, and rings. I think they have a Sleeve kit also. I also saw that they had thicker copper head gaskets in a brochure that i saw back at the car show. I did see in that brochure that they had more than just the Ecotec parts. They had everything for the new and older Cavys.
Anyway, lucky kid, to have a father who will get him started in the racing scene at an early age. My father bought me my first car at 17. It was an old big 59 Caddy with a huge V8 and alot of power with 4 on the floor. It was fun to play with and race though. Still didnt have quite the power or technology as they do today. The best i ever got from the Caddy built was low 15s in the quarter and that was even with a twin carb setup. Wow what a difference from yesterday to today.
I've been looking in to buying this kit also. Are you sure that you don't need larger injectors if you want to run 10 psi? I'm on a college kids budget and my dad is definatly not going to buy me one for christmas, so what are the other neccesary components that don't come with the kit so I can plan on spending the extra cash? Would anyone recommend a Greddy Profec boost controller? <br>
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with 10 psi u WILL need bigger injecctors.
Thanks guys for the compliments. Although my son is getting the kit on 'his' car, I still bought the car too, so it's still MY car until he's older and off to college. He's just the one driving the car. Sorry, no more kids needed around this house, so no adoptions.
Some information to everyone about the whole injector issue above. I have already talked with them and done the research. No, you won't need bigger injectors. That's the point of the EIC. It lets you keep everything stock, everything being the injectors and fpr. With the kit from HAAS, it includes the EIC and extra injectors. This of it this way:
The stock injectors and stock fpr are working together at a vacuum into 0 atmospheric to run the engine in idle and into low RPM's (non boost). There is no need for adjusting this because that's the way the engine is suppose to run. Once the boost kicks in you need something to compensate for the fuel (obviously). You can have bigger injectors and a adjustable FPR to conpensate for the extra fuel needed proportional to boost only; which is a pain in the butt to hook up. OR you can have an EIC which is two bigger injectors added to the stock setup helping with the fuel and is fully customizable to what your engines needs are. The EIC has the adjustments in the car which allow you to add fuel at almost any stage of the vacuum/boost spectrum in an adjustable quantity. The other added benefit is that it is based on boost AND RPM's, so it's adding based on what your car is doing, not just what the turbo is doing. It's an electronic microprocessor working with your car, not just a mechanical unit working with the boost levels.
I hope this helps some people out. For Dark Eco, nice looking car. A boost controller would probably be all you need since it sounds like you want to run higher than what HAAS ships out at.
dark eco, i would recommmend starting out at the preset boost level when u get the kit and slowly work your way up as u learn more about the system and how to tune it properly.
Thanks guys, I'll let you know how everything works out. I hope that the kit stays on sale for a while because I'm not going to have the money until after christmas. I can't spend all my christmas money on myself! Even though it is tempting. <br>
Since it is in this post and some of you dont know, I put in another post what an EIC is. The post is "turbo fuel setups".
Hey Mike one newbie question: If this kit comes with EIC do I need to get an extra fuel pump, since it is essentially a seperate system? <br>
When i was ordering my kit from HAAS, they said that the fuel pump came with the kit and i think its says that on their website too. Yep, just checked and that is what it says. You wont need 2 fuel pumps. You just tee into the fuel line and run another line to the extra injectors.
Is this kit everything needed for the system? Will I have to buy extra parts? I am buying my ecotec very soon and this kit seems like an awesome deal.
also with the the EIC, is there any messing around with it or is it plug in and it will add the right amount of fuel? <br>
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EIC is not plug and play. You still need to choose a duty cycle and fuel pressure for the injectors. The guy in the other thread is wrong. You can't just slap an EIC with a set of 480cc injectors and expect your tuning problems to go away. You still have to tell the EIC how much fuel to supply, and adjust the feed pressure accordingly.
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Shifted is right, you will still need to adjust it to what you want. HAAS told me that the EIC comes preset at a little rich but adjustments for fine tuning will have to be made and simple instructions on how to use it will come with it. Its pretty simple to use anyway. Its alot easier to use than most other set-ups.
No, there are no other parts to buy. If there was, i wouldnt have bought it. It is a complete kit.
is this kit for the ecotec or is it also avaliable for the 2200 non-ecotec motor
Do you mean the "Hahn kit ", or is someone else in the market ?
I think they chose a similar name to confuse uneducated buyers.
Haas is a type of avocado.
I have been talking to Haas via email, and if I could find out who else would be interested in buying the 2799 kit, we could get ourselves a discount together through me. He told me to get back to him on how many were interested from here, and from that he will tell us what kind of discount he can give. He said he can get us a discount for 2 or more, but the more, the better the price, so who would be interested in goign in on that with me? <br>
there is another Josh solomon on here... he had a yellow turbo ecotec
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