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LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 02, 2004 7:22 PM
per request i will try this again..

exactly what the title says. anyone know of any BESIDES phantom grip? if so i like to hear them. this, amongst other things, will determine the route my car takes. thanks in advance. <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 02, 2004 7:40 PM
also i know there was a LSD in some SCX's but im not that lucky..

i wondering if there is one i can buy? i know quaife makes one for the new getrag. any ideas guys? <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:38 PM
not sure what fits, but mantapart has a couple listed in the beretta section of there website. one is a thoresen and i believe the other is an auburn. both are expensive. <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:30 PM
yeah i thought mantapart had a torsen but it says only for the HM282. i sent them an email to ask if it will work, i will post the responce. i dont think the auburn is an actual dif. thanks for the reply. i will post when they reply. thanks again <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:31 PM
wow i just read what i typed and the fact that i repeated myself really bad... god im tired LOL <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:30 AM
What's wrong with the PG? <br>

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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:06 AM
i want to go with an ACTUAL differencial. Not put little springs inside my crappy isuzu differencial. id rather pay the extra and do it right the first time. also it looks like mantapart no longer has these difs. so for all the info i have the only ACTUAL LSD's we can get are either in the GP for the Isuzu Quaife's or needle in a haystack for the scx torsen lsd's or quaifes for the new getrag (00+). if anyone wants to add they may feel free <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 09, 2004 11:37 AM
Quaife , they make a differencial for your tranny here's the e-mail they sent me back last week i was asking them about the Getrag Tranny which they don't carry yet. but they do carry the isuzu tranny. Karo is using this LSD right now on his car.


Jason,
If the gear box you have is designated as a F25 or F23, then we do have a
differential for you. If it has another transmission code, let me know and I
will see what we may have.

Jason Alvarez
Quaife Aftermarket Manager

Karo's tranny


Transmission Modifications:
• B&M Racing Short Throw Shifter
• Cryo-Treated Gears
• Cryo-Treated Transmission Case
• Drive Shaft Shop Stage II Axles
• Miller Performance Built Racing Transmission
• Quaife Limited Slip Deferential <br>

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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 09, 2004 12:29 PM
Firepower wrote:Quaife , they make a differencial for your tranny here's the e-mail they sent me back last week i was asking them about the Getrag Tranny which they don't carry yet. but they do carry the isuzu tranny. Karo is using this LSD right now on his car.


Jason,
If the gear box you have is designated as a F25 or F23, then we do have a
differential for you. If it has another transmission code, let me know and I
will see what we may have.

Jason Alvarez
Quaife Aftermarket Manager

Karo's tranny


Transmission Modifications:
• B&M Racing Short Throw Shifter
• Cryo-Treated Gears
• Cryo-Treated Transmission Case
• Drive Shaft Shop Stage II Axles
• Miller Performance Built Racing Transmission
• Quaife Limited Slip Deferential


thank you for your reply...

but i think i might have to clarify myself. i dont want one for my isuzu which i have now. i am weighing the 00+ getrag swap over the new venture. i know they make one for the 00+ getrag. i was wondering about the new venture (from a 93-94 quad 4 application) which is an easier swap and hes been done and well documented.. <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 09, 2004 10:51 PM
sorry misunderstood you
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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:26 PM
you can get a Clutch packed LSD from Engineered Performance

i have the EP LSD in my 5spd NVG transmission.

ask for Jeff he is the guy who does the LSD's at EP.

these diffs will work for any 89-94 HM282/NVG 5tm40/ NVT 550/ old style Getrag/Muncie trans.

they are also working on Isuzu LSD's as well.

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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 16, 2004 8:49 AM
thanks for all the info guys! <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 16, 2004 11:13 AM
nvg made trannys for j bodys?

chirs <br>

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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Monday, August 16, 2004 11:32 PM
nope.. but they can be made to work rather easily and of course are much better than the isuzu. <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:31 PM
v6h.o. wrote:you can get a Clutch packed LSD from Engineered Performance

i have the EP LSD in my 5spd NVG transmission.

ask for Jeff he is the guy who does the LSD's at EP.

these diffs will work for any 89-94 HM282/NVG 5tm40/ NVT 550/ old style Getrag/Muncie trans.

they are also working on Isuzu LSD's as well.


but i thought he didnt want CRAPPY SPRING products




call it what you may, it gets the job done... <br>


Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:44 PM
LOL i never said those products were crappy at all.. i said my ISUZU dif was crappy. the dif is what im woried about so i wanted to replace that. i know about the older one in the storm but i was hoping for some info on the new venture. thanks again for your inputs. <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:47 PM
v6h.o. wrote:you can get a Clutch packed LSD from Engineered Performance

i have the EP LSD in my 5spd NVG transmission.

ask for Jeff he is the guy who does the LSD's at EP.

these diffs will work for any 89-94 HM282/NVG 5tm40/ NVT 550/ old style Getrag/Muncie trans.

they are also working on Isuzu LSD's as well.

Do you have a price on that unit? I'm considering swapping over to it. <br>






Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:56 AM
Jrobz23 wrote:LOL i never said those products were crappy at all.. i said my ISUZU dif was crappy. the dif is what im woried about so i wanted to replace that. i know about the older one in the storm but i was hoping for some info on the new venture. thanks again for your inputs.


i know... just playin around...

but hey seriously... on the price that you would normally pay for a quaife or something, have you considered beefing the isuzu up?

or do you just want it gone completely. <br>


Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:37 PM
i would like it to be gone.. if i one day get to the point of needing a beefed trans i would rather beef one that is worth beefing..

its lookin like a F23 swap w/ quaife, seeing as im not lucky. i just need to now find the time, space, and a good welder <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:52 PM
I would swap in an HM282 or an old 550, better tranny to begin with, not to mention better ratios! Only different I know of is slightly different shift linkage which just needs a fabbed simple bracket to work. Worth lookin into cuz I know I can pick em up cheap as hell. <br>


Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:27 AM
i dont wanna go through the work of the hm282 when the nvg if much easier swap for us w/ the slave setup and all. i still dont know. if i can find one of those torsen units this decision will make itself. and probably for 1/2 the price of the quaife alone. in that is probably the plan. up until i really need it, look for the torsen. if none present themselves, then go the other way.. <br>


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:50 PM
have a torsen unit, will fit the nvg t550 internal slave clutch release. Ron
Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:20 PM
We have the HM282 in my '98 Z. I did get ahold of a Torsen LSD which was "suppose" to fit the HM282 from the Grand Am, etc.., but it does not fit. Just FYI.

I also believe the EP "LSD" is a phantom grip type thing as well. Just from looking at the pics on their website, that's what it seems like.
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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Friday, August 20, 2004 6:22 AM
Here is EP's response to

The Engineered Performance limited slip differential is a clutch-type, pre-loaded limited slip. It is neither like the Quaife or the PG.

It works just like the old-fashioned limited-slips ("Posi") of days past. The axles are forced to run together by a pre-load spring plate acting against the side gears and clutches. At low (vehicle)speed in a turn, the weight of the car overcomes the pre-load force and the clutches "slip", allowing the axles to turn at different speeds. If, in a turn, the input torque is a higher force than the weight of the vehicle, the tires will try to turn at the same speed. This eliminates the inside tire spinning out of control and the car standing still. In a straight line, both tires will turn all the time, regardless of available traction under each wheel.

Example:
one tire is on wet pavement, one on dry. With a standard diff, the tire on the wet will start to spin (left OR right). With our limited slip, both tires will turn at the same speed, which means the low traction "wet" tire will NOT spin AND the high traction "dry" tire will pull the car. At the drag strip, the limited slip divides the output torque of the transmission b/t the two front tires, so they are less likely to spin. And if they DO spin, they will both spin, enabling the engine to quickly rev past the point of "break-away torque" and into a higher rpm where wheel spin is less likely. This results in quicker acceleration. Our limited slip nearly eliminates the torque-steer (roaming from side-to-side or pulling to the right) associated with high performance FWD cars, as the output torque is evenly divided b/t the front wheels.

Our limited slip is imperceptible in daily driving (unless you WANT to know its there!). It does NOT affect steering effort. It does not require "staging" as other non-pre-loaded units do.


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Re: LSD options for the New Venture
Friday, August 20, 2004 7:40 AM
I just called EP and they said they don't have an LSD NVT550...yet. Said about 30 days before they do and retail price will be around $575.00 <br>






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