IamQwibby (Eco Meatcake) wrote:John whether it be a 2.2 ohv, a 2.2 eco, a 2.4 eco, or a 2.4 ld9, 300 whp is 300 whp... We were doing this swap because it could handle 400. If youre going to quote amounts, I technically wasted $700
Well I say go for it. I know a guy who wants to get 400whp out of a stock L61. Do I think he will get it, hmmm no, but should he not try.
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I don't want to "go for it" if I knew i had weaker rods, id rather get this dialed in, and get a new 06 come early spring
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Yes tinkles, possibly, and moving on to something else. Doubtful though. I may do rods, I believe it's possible to do rod's with the engine in the car
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IamQwibby (Eco Meatcake) wrote:Yes tinkles, possibly, and moving on to something else. Doubtful though. I may do rods, I believe it's possible to do rod's with the engine in the car
But you have to take the pistons out to do rods anyways. The engine only needs to come out if the crank needs machining. Head work, rods and pistons you can keep the engine in. but getting the crank out with the engine in seems like it would be rather difficult.
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ok, by comparison and inference, we have determined Phil's 2008 does not have the forged rods. The rods in my 2007 bottom end are similar to LSJ rods, and Phil's are definitely different. If anyone has a picture of an L61 rod from the bottom, we could put the nail in the coffin, but I'm satisfied with suggesting to keep away from 2008 engines. I should not be surprised GM would do something like this, but we're still highly disappointed.
Here is an LSJ rod from the bottom:
Here is my 2007 bottom end, note the rods look exactly the same as the LSJ rods:
Here is Phil's 2008 bottom end, note the differences in the rods from the first picture:
Those look weird. The end caps on the 08 bottom end almost look like stamped steel. Certainly not cast or forged, but they don't really look like what sintered powdered metal pieces look like either, weird.
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Hmm, so whats next on the plans? forged rods, or done with it?
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I seen a couple of guys on the SS forums change pistons and rods while the motor is still in the car.
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Ouch Phil that sucks hate to see this happen. Lucky you found out before you broke @!#$.
Yeah thanks guys.... Thinking get this dialed in @ 10 psi, save for daily then save for the carillo rods. Swap them in while motor is in car. Stock pistons should be ok for 450
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That sounds like a good plan.
Im also entertaining offers on the car. Trades or Cash. It will be cleaned up amd have a new harness and tuned before sale.
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LOL did you really pull the motor and tear it down just to see what rods it had?
i gotta say though man... you win some, you lose some. so you found out what NOT to do. i say good job... you just saved a lot of people the trouble.
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you have to use the 2.2 pan to make the swap work so they would have already had access to the end caps to see a difference.
sucks to hear phil. do you really want to sell it though? last time you sold qbe, you turned around and bought another to build again. just seems wasteful to put all the effort in to the car to turn around and part/sell.
I'm glad to see this was able to be looked further into and POSSIBLY saved you from a big headache.
Mrs Jazer wrote:I'm glad to see this was able to be looked further into and POSSIBLY saved you from a big headache.
Same here. Excellent call on it jazer, props.
And Phil, PLEASE stick with this. God I wanna see that thing move...
I gotta wait for my student loan check phil. But i might end up buying qwibby. And you would know hes in good hands. I shall be texting you soon enough.
Damn this sucks, Just Build it phil and take your time...You got winter and if your like me i dont do ish in the winter, just stack some cash for like 3 or 4 months and spring comes around throw in some rods. atleast your got more displacement
btw old sckool i dont know if this helps, pics of some beat up stock L61 rods...
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Wait for an le5 guy to sell his stock rods. I am sure cobaltss.net will have them sometime, and the ones you need at that. See if ZZP or any other vendor have some. Don't give up!
Midnight Murder (Blu Carbon) wrote:I gotta wait for my student loan check phil. But i might end up buying qwibby. And you would know hes in good hands. I shall be texting you soon enough.
BHAHAHAHAHA !!!! this should be major Epicness and so full of Fail
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