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Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:53 AM
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:

This is a J-Body site so no, a N-Body cannot be on this list. He does get an honorable mention for making a @!#$load of power though


Waaaah waaaah waaaaah so what if it is a j-body site? I post on this j-body site.

OMGZ someone quick! Give me a j-body, I'll slap the motor in there, put out the same power, blam! Top of the list till Hahn dials in their setup. Then again I still have more boost and tuning to throw at mine.......... could be fun, yes? I like.

Mike Karas car is dead, and his numbers are moot, I can brag I did it with an arguably simple motor build, basic well functioning turbo setup, some fuel mods, and a modified PCM.

Put me at the bottom of the list with a lil asterisk pointing out where I'd be HAD I put my motor in a J-body instead of an overweight N-body.


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so since hypsy and most of you probably agree I'm not allowed on the list, I'll my own list.

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2.4L
intake exhaust - 138hp - dynojet
blown t3/t4 apexi afc/GM 2bar flash - 290ish hp - dynojet
last dyno - 432hp - mustang dyno



I RULE!


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party


Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:29 AM
Hmmm...I see a possible Hahn Vs. Spyhunter matchup comin'!!!



15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:13 AM
I'll let you on the list Spy!!! As long as you save a spot right above you for me




SPD RCR Z - '02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT - '04 GTO 305whp
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Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:31 AM
FstCavZ24 wrote:

^^^ Are you SC'ed yet?


Are you turbo yet again?


Karo (Car Customs) wrote:

Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:

I say for it to be a legit number you need to have a video, three witnesses, picture of said witnesses with social security cards in hand, and a picture of every mod on the car with receipts.


Is this a porn video shoot that you need them to hold their SS card / ID card in had while you take a Digital Picture of them holding up the cards for proof? LOL


If you're feeling the porn shoot, that's also allowed for proof.



Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:09 AM
Grumpy McGrumpster(BIGGSZ24) wrote:

Hmmm...I see a possible Hahn Vs. Spyhunter matchup comin'!!!


Someday, on a side note, I have an ecotec motor I SHOULD be picking up sometime soon to start building.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:12 PM
SpyhunteR wrote:

Mike Karas car is dead, and his numbers are moot
Are we pulling people off the 1/4 mile list when they get rid of or change their cars? I'd like to see a list of what our motors have accomplished, to better represent what can be done, and not just what is currently out there.
I vote we add Karas, Adler, and Scruff...and whoever else.




fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:14 PM
SpyHunter: If it was solely up to me, and hadn't been a precedent sent previously, I wouldn't give a @!#$. But based on the other thread and how that one is going by not allowing other cars we cannot do it here to be fair.



I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:06 PM
Sure you can, it's a different thread, it's okay no big deal. N-body people have issues with me too, since I'm running a 4cyl.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:00 AM
i think spyhunter should be able to be apart of it seeing as he still has the 2.4... same engine as a jbody. so why not? just because its a different body style doesnt mean that the same things he has done cant be done by a jbody.




Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Friday, July 27, 2007 7:46 AM
TheGreenMachine(isnt so green) wrote:

i think spyhunter should be able to be apart of it seeing as he still has the 2.4... same engine as a jbody. so why not? just because its a different body style doesnt mean that the same things he has done cant be done by a jbody.


I would totally agree with this, but the N-body has a larger engine bay allowing more room for larger parts. If the motor and intercooler will physically fit in the J-body, then by all means, I'd say throw yourself at the top of the list Spy.

SpyhunteR wrote:

N-body people have issues with me too, since I'm running a 4cyl.

That's because it isn't cool to break away from the herd and do what others won't.


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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Friday, July 27, 2007 11:41 AM
Brian Whalen wrote:


I would totally agree with this, but the N-body has a larger engine bay allowing more room for larger parts. If the motor and intercooler will physically fit in the J-body, then by all means, I'd say throw yourself at the top of the list Spy


this i did not know. thanks for the info. but my thinking is that a j-body could probably be modifed enough to work the parts that spyhunter has so it would still work out wouldnt it? i mean even if it isnt streetable we are still counting pure race machines arent we?





Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Friday, July 27, 2007 1:09 PM
Brian Whalen wrote:

TheGreenMachine(isnt so green) wrote:

i think spyhunter should be able to be apart of it seeing as he still has the 2.4... same engine as a jbody. so why not? just because its a different body style doesnt mean that the same things he has done cant be done by a jbody.


I would totally agree with this, but the N-body has a larger engine bay allowing more room for larger parts. If the motor and intercooler will physically fit in the J-body, then by all means, I'd say throw yourself at the top of the list Spy.

SpyhunteR wrote:

N-body people have issues with me too, since I'm running a 4cyl.

That's because it isn't cool to break away from the herd and do what others won't.


How is my 2.4L physically larger than one that comes in a J-body? My intercooler is tiny in comparison to what you j-body folks are running, lol. For the record what parts on my car are larger? My intake manifold? It'll fit under the hood of a j-body, I'm not running a gimongous turbo either. Actually I'm using an ebay turbo log manifold that is meant for a jbody. If anything needs to be reworked a lil bit is the intercooler plumbing and the downpipe. Which to me isn't a big issue, it's just a packaging issue. You guys don't have to deal with a nasty subframe, like i do.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:50 PM
Sorry, but you guys are now going to have to argue over second place. I put down 451whp and 421wtq today on 91 octane pump fuel, stock timing and 15psi of boost. I will post up a pic of the graph tomorrow to make it official. Like Adam this is only the beginning for me, race fuel and added timing and boost coming soon.



Quoth the Raven 'Nevermore
raven@accesswave.ca
Raven Autosports
55 McQuade Lake Cres,
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
(902) 850-3330
10.82@132
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:09 PM
James... I am proud of you.

Can't wait to begin to rip into mine... it is truely killing me inside.


Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:05 PM
I still made more torque!!!!! heh.


-Trailblazer SS - not so custom 6.0L - custom intake - custom tune
- (1) 2.4L on an engine stand (1) blown trans (2) good quad trans (1) eco trans = party

Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:07 PM
Wow! some of these numbers are VERY impressive! Keep it up guys.



2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:23 PM
The Raven is my new hero!!!But then again you do have a v-6



15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:15 AM
I don't want to create problems cause that's not why I'm here, but does the 3800 V6 even come in a J-Body? I think that if there is a debate over whether or not spyhunter can be on the list and he uses a J-body motor in another car, then how can Raven's 3800 V6 cavy be considered? Couldn't someone just drop an LS2 in a J-Body and take reign over this list? But I do like the uniqueness of Raven's car, and as we can see it is done very well. Nice Numbers Raven.



Street-Legal 2003 Sunfire 10.58 @ 139 MPH
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 4:30 AM
Adam has a very good point. I think we should split the list up like the 1/4 mile list. This way we can put everyone in the class they belong (and I think we can put Spyhunter at least in a catch all class). Then when people someone wants to build awesome NA car they can go to the NA section and see what has been done, and look at people's profiles and get a idle of what they need to do. Same for a boosted Ecotec, or any other set-up.



FU Tuning



Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:55 AM
lmao...how did I know this was going to happen in this post. Tell you guys what, don't worry about it, I take myself out of the running. I really could care less about being on this list so don't worry about it. I will bow out and you guys can fight over who will be on this list. IMO if it is a j-body then it counts, doesn't matter what is under the hood. If it is an N body then go over to an N-body site and get on their list, you don't see me on any grand prix lists and I wouldn't expect to. Maybe you guys should just keep it to completely stock 2.2's, 2.4's and eco's just to keep it fair, I mean hell modding an engine is going to give you an advantage.

Spyhunter: Yes you made more torque than me, for now. My engine is good for a lot more, we were only babying it at 421wtq.

Adam: I was kind of surprised to read what you wrote, you never mentioned anything like this previous to me posting up numbers so whats the big deal now? Maybe yours shouldn't be counted because you have the full backing of a company who specializes in turbo creations. Regardless this is a pretty stupid thing to argue over, if you want the #1 spot that bad it's yours. Enjoy.



Quoth the Raven 'Nevermore
raven@accesswave.ca
Raven Autosports
55 McQuade Lake Cres,
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
(902) 850-3330
10.82@132
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:50 AM
I believe it should be split into different sections, 2.2L, 2.4L, ECO, and balls all out (swaps), etc...... why not? Its still a Jbody and James put all that effort into making it fit into a Jbody... its pointless to argue.



Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:40 AM
raven wrote:

lmao...how did I know this was going to happen in this post. Tell you guys what, don't worry about it, I take myself out of the running. I really could care less about being on this list so don't worry about it. I will bow out and you guys can fight over who will be on this list. IMO if it is a j-body then it counts, doesn't matter what is under the hood. If it is an N body then go over to an N-body site and get on their list, you don't see me on any grand prix lists and I wouldn't expect to. Maybe you guys should just keep it to completely stock 2.2's, 2.4's and eco's just to keep it fair, I mean hell modding an engine is going to give you an advantage.

Spyhunter: Yes you made more torque than me, for now. My engine is good for a lot more, we were only babying it at 421wtq.

Adam: I was kind of surprised to read what you wrote, you never mentioned anything like this previous to me posting up numbers so whats the big deal now? Maybe yours shouldn't be counted because you have the full backing of a company who specializes in turbo creations. Regardless this is a pretty stupid thing to argue over, if you want the #1 spot that bad it's yours. Enjoy.


I think you interpreted my post wrong. I was saying that it was weird there was a page long fight over spyhunter and he uses a J motor while you don't have a J motor and no one said anything. I never said you shouldn't be on the list but as I re-read my post (which was at 4:15 am ), the "Anyone could drop an LS2 in and take reign" comment swayed what I meant to say. Now that you have posted your numbers Raven, I think it has been determined that the list should be a catch-all list. It should just be a list of anyone who has either a motor that comes in a J-Body, or is a J-Body. What should be done is like on the 1/4 list, the people on the list should have a link to their profiles, their HP numbers (and/or TQ), then what motor was used and that's it. Any other information you want people to know should be in your profile.

My car is not backed by Hahn RaceCraft. I work at least 40 hours a week at our plant during the summer working a job to afford the car, and that doesn't even include the time I work on the Sunfire. I do not get paid to work on the car and I even have to clock out to do so. We don't even so much as look at the car during business hours because it is not a business venture, it is a father/son project. Do I have advantages others don't? Of course, I would be a fool to say otherwise. Even just having the shop machines and the lift gives me an advantage most don't have. But my dad and his business did not put this car together and just give it to me. I have put in over double the hours my dad has.



Street-Legal 2003 Sunfire 10.58 @ 139 MPH
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:03 AM
Advantage or not... we all can achieve crazy HP numbers by doing certain similar things, working our asses off and spending stupid amounts of cash to do so...

I think there should be categories that state what your engine is.... if its a Jbody, put it on the list, then we can determine who is first in our OWN opinion. Ofcourse pushing crazy power out of a little 4cly is rare, but so is putting in a 6cly and pushing the limits, so whats really the difference? $ spent? Thats about it...


Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:04 AM
Adam Hahn wrote:

raven wrote:

lmao...how did I know this was going to happen in this post. Tell you guys what, don't worry about it, I take myself out of the running. I really could care less about being on this list so don't worry about it. I will bow out and you guys can fight over who will be on this list. IMO if it is a j-body then it counts, doesn't matter what is under the hood. If it is an N body then go over to an N-body site and get on their list, you don't see me on any grand prix lists and I wouldn't expect to. Maybe you guys should just keep it to completely stock 2.2's, 2.4's and eco's just to keep it fair, I mean hell modding an engine is going to give you an advantage.

Spyhunter: Yes you made more torque than me, for now. My engine is good for a lot more, we were only babying it at 421wtq.

Adam: I was kind of surprised to read what you wrote, you never mentioned anything like this previous to me posting up numbers so whats the big deal now? Maybe yours shouldn't be counted because you have the full backing of a company who specializes in turbo creations. Regardless this is a pretty stupid thing to argue over, if you want the #1 spot that bad it's yours. Enjoy.


I think you interpreted my post wrong. I was saying that it was weird there was a page long fight over spyhunter and he uses a J motor while you don't have a J motor and no one said anything. I never said you shouldn't be on the list but as I re-read my post (which was at 4:15 am ), the "Anyone could drop an LS2 in and take reign" comment swayed what I meant to say. Now that you have posted your numbers Raven, I think it has been determined that the list should be a catch-all list. It should just be a list of anyone who has either a motor that comes in a J-Body, or is a J-Body. What should be done is like on the 1/4 list, the people on the list should have a link to their profiles, their HP numbers (and/or TQ), then what motor was used and that's it. Any other information you want people to know should be in your profile.

My car is not backed by Hahn RaceCraft. I work at least 40 hours a week at our plant during the summer working a job to afford the car, and that doesn't even include the time I work on the Sunfire. I do not get paid to work on the car and I even have to clock out to do so. We don't even so much as look at the car during business hours because it is not a business venture, it is a father/son project. Do I have advantages others don't? Of course, I would be a fool to say otherwise. Even just having the shop machines and the lift gives me an advantage most don't have. But my dad and his business did not put this car together and just give it to me. I have put in over double the hours my dad has.


Hey man, sorry to offend you but I was just pointing out another moot point people shouldn't bitch about. I never said that your dad and his business put that car together and gave it to you,,,not even sure where you came up with an idea like that. I know the work you have personally put into it and thats great but you have had help from your dad (which is by no means a shot against you I think that is really cool) and you have access to epuiptment and testing data that no one else has. For you to say that I don't count because I have a different engine in there is about as stupid as the points I brought up, I guess you didn't catch the sarcasim in my original post. Like I said above, I could care less if I was on this list. I build my car for me because it is what I like to do, end of story. If a website doesn't want to include me then thats cool, I still get to go outside and turn the key.





Quoth the Raven 'Nevermore
raven@accesswave.ca
Raven Autosports
55 McQuade Lake Cres,
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
(902) 850-3330
10.82@132
Re: Top 25 WHP list :)
Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:37 AM
I would suggest listing by motor, then sub-listing as Turbo/Supercharged/Nitrous, and N/A. I gotta give props where they are due, taking a 2.4 and getting 432 HP and 424 TQ is DOING something!! Not throwing off on anybody else, I think what all of you guys have done is pretty well amazing.


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