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2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 8:40 AM
Me and a buddy of mine will be hitting the drag strip in two weeks and I wanted to know if I stand a chance vs my buddies car?

My
04 sunfire 2.2 automatic
Ebay intake k&n filter
Tsudo header
Magna flow cat
Cherrybomb glassback resonator
Dual cherry bomb turbos

Vs

His
99 firebird 3.8 automatic
Spectre intake k&n filter
Obx headers
Straight piped
Flowmaster exhaust

Opinions????suggestions????

Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:19 AM
I think it would be a very close race, up to the drivers I think... Try taking out any unnecessary weight , spare tire, seats, etc... I think that's how close it would be, within .5 of a sec of each other. So a few pounds could make the difference of winning.


2000 Cavalier Z24 5spd - Intake, Dynomax muffler, Hawk Pads, Powerslot rotors, Sportlines/Koni reds, Neon Coil, MSD 8.5 Wires
2005 Mazda 3 GS Auto- Wifes car

Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:39 AM
beat him off the line



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Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:51 AM
So this is gonna be a drivers race?this is good to hear lol my friend is talking like his firebird will wipe the floor with my sunfire,the only other 3.8 I ever raced was a grand prix gt and we were about dead even.
Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 10:52 AM
No, his firebird will wipe its ass with your car...

2900lb 140 hp < 3200lb 200hp...

I used to have a 98 3.8 camaro, and I know for a fact that you will have no chance, My bet, he gets you by at least a car and a half at the stripe. Would bet ET to ET he will have you by a second and a half.



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Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:11 AM
So I pretty much gotta invest some more money to beat the bird?
Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 07, 2012 6:21 PM
forced induction, tune

or

cams, pistons, headwork, blockwork, tune (maybe... it takes a lot of $$ to make an eco pass 200 WHP N/A)



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Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:05 PM
Alex Richards wrote:

No, his firebird will wipe its ass with your car...

2900lb 140 hp < 3200lb 200hp...

I used to have a 98 3.8 camaro, and I know for a fact that you will have no chance, My bet, he gets you by at least a car and a half at the stripe. Would bet ET to ET he will have you by a second and a half.


Since when did a sunfire weight 2900? Closer to 2700 probably, depends on all his options and that but none weigh 2900. It both drivers have perfect runs, I still think the firebird would win but by less then .5


2000 Cavalier Z24 5spd - Intake, Dynomax muffler, Hawk Pads, Powerslot rotors, Sportlines/Koni reds, Neon Coil, MSD 8.5 Wires
2005 Mazda 3 GS Auto- Wifes car

Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:53 PM
Maybe the OP can chime in and let us know how it went,

As for your "Probably" argument, 2003-2005 = 2678lbs curb... Thats empty... another 150-200 lbs? No problem...

His ass will still get dusted



Buildin' n' Boostin for 08' - Alex Richards
Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Friday, April 20, 2012 6:58 PM
the worst part is were talking about a 6cyl firebird. no winners either way



Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Friday, April 20, 2012 7:17 PM
Exactly my point, they are nothing special, and I'm not saying the j body is better or anything. It's a small economy car w 140hp and the bird is a heavier car with a little more power. It should be close, tomorrow will be 2 weeks, let the time slips or video do the talking....


2000 Cavalier Z24 5spd - Intake, Dynomax muffler, Hawk Pads, Powerslot rotors, Sportlines/Koni reds, Neon Coil, MSD 8.5 Wires
2005 Mazda 3 GS Auto- Wifes car


Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:56 PM
My 04 cav weighed in at 2680 without me. Not even a full tank. 14gal tank if its full will be adding weight, plus driver... yeah the firebird will win.

Also, dont bother taking seats out, you will only net 10lbs MAYBE by doing so. Its not worth the hassle to do it...



Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:22 AM
I was looking at curb weight vs curb weight, everyone keeps adding weight for a driver and fuel in the sunfire, is there not going to be a driver or fuel in the firebird?
To op, it's going to be a very close race, the bird should be a little faster but you shouldn't get smoked or anything. Weight reduction really doesn't do much but every .1 sec adds up... The pass seat weighs 28 lbs I thought, the rear seat, bottom and the back part weigh around 30, spare tire Jack, another 30? Almost 100lbs right there, if u have a sub, take it out too, run with less than 1/2 tank of fuel. If you are really motivate, you could take more out but those are easy to remove items, it's not going to make a night and day difference but might save .1 maybe .2 in the 1/4
Good luck and post results.


2000 Cavalier Z24 5spd - Intake, Dynomax muffler, Hawk Pads, Powerslot rotors, Sportlines/Koni reds, Neon Coil, MSD 8.5 Wires
2005 Mazda 3 GS Auto- Wifes car

Re: 2004 sunfire vs 1999 firebird 3.8?
Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:35 PM
And remember that rotational mass is equal to well over double the equivalent stationary mass.



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