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I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Monday, March 07, 2005 1:08 PM
The times are here after opening day on 3.06.05. I was spinning very bad and on the one run I didn't hook til 3rd gear. I can't launch this car but, this was my first time racing in this. My MPH is great(I think) so I know the car can run a mid-low 15 1/4. I will try again next next. Overall, I am happy, 15's the first time out and an awsome mph for the times I ran.

Run 1
Car # 8457
Class S/T
Dial
R/T .261
60' 2.476
330' 6.823
1/8 10.394
MPH 69.30
1000' 13.426
1/4 15.981
MPH 87.21

This is the run I spun very very bad.
Run 2
Car # 8457
Class S/T
Dial
R/T .402
60' 2.673
330' 7.217
1/8 10.830
MPH 69.04
1000' 13.872
1/4 16.424
MPH 88.31

Run 3
Car # 8457
Class S/T
Dial 15.75
R/T .156
60' 2.475
330' 6.812
1/8 10.377
MPH 69.37
1000' 13.406
1/4 15.958
MPH 88.20


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Monday, March 07, 2005 2:03 PM
you were at Budd's Creek yesterday?? I didn't see you................you didn't happen to see a red sunfire with a primered red front did you?? That would be me.



Your mph is enough to run low 15's.You just need to work on getting those 60ft times down.For every 10th you loose in the first 60 feet you tend to loose 2 10th's at the end of the track.EXAMPLE:

R/T .402
60' 2.673
330' 7.217
1/8 10.830
MPH 69.04
1000' 13.872
1/4 16.424
MPH 88.31


Now say you had a 2.2 60ft......not hard to do.That would equal about a 15.6 in the quarter.It would drop your 1/4 by about 8/10's.




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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Monday, March 07, 2005 2:59 PM
I know the 60' sucked, I am not used to this car, my camaro cut 1.9's. I probaly saw you, were you racing? I saw a bunch of horrible looking jbody's so, I wouldn't talk to them. I was the fast jbody their that I saw.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:38 AM
I went 16.2's but I have a bad clutch.My trap speeds were up around 86-88 like yours.The clutch just wouldn't hold 1st and 2nd gear all that good.



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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:48 PM
The MPH is not enough for low 15's. Mid 15's at best...thats all.

Low 15's is low 90's mph. I ran 15.1 at 91.36....also a 15.2 at 91.2 mph....just to give you a clue.







Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:24 PM
I don't doubt your word............I have found you to be very acknowledgable


but on the other hand I have gone 15.20's at 87 mph in my 03 ecotec Sunfire.Granted I had pretty good 60ft times.I think it's highly possible.

Again not trying to start a arguement.



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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Friday, March 11, 2005 10:28 AM
its all about the launch. I ran a 14.7@ 91 MPH.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Friday, March 11, 2005 11:47 AM
^^^^True launches probably have the biggest overall effect on E/T's.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Friday, March 11, 2005 1:02 PM
Yeah, meltdown is running 15.2 @86 in his eco I think so I know I can pull a low 15.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Monday, March 14, 2005 11:04 AM
u need better 60 footers, like 2 flat, i pull 2.3's on 205/40/17's and hit 2.3's but i only have about 120 tq. i would prolly invest in some new tires (Kumho ecsta MX)


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Monday, March 14, 2005 5:57 PM
I wont buy another kumho tire again.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Monday, March 14, 2005 11:51 PM
how long have you been racing your cavalier?

just keep practicing with your car... try airing down your front tires to get better traction

my best 60' in my 2200 OHV is a 2.2 and my best e/t is a 15.769 @ 85.5mph

you have to get a better feel for FWD... the technique is a lot different







Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:16 AM
well what did u buy the @!#$ty ecsta 711's or 712's? go to tirerack and read the reviews, peep are puttin them on their new vettes and they grip better than the stock goodyear eagles. u cant compare a 300+ treadwear bargain tire for a 220 high performance tire


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:18 AM
delslo9 wrote:well what did u buy the @!#$ty ecsta 711's or 712's? go to tirerack and read the reviews, peep are puttin them on their new vettes and they grip better than the stock goodyear eagles. u cant compare a 300+ treadwear bargain tire for a 220 high performance tire

i meant people are puttin the ecsta mx's on their vettes....


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:20 AM
delslo9 wrote:well what did u buy the @!#$ty ecsta 711's or 712's? go to tirerack and read the reviews, peep are puttin them on their new vettes and they grip better than the stock goodyear eagles. u cant compare a 300+ treadwear bargain tire for a 220 high performance tire


i meant peple are putting the ecsta mx's on vettes.....


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:31 PM
I did air them down and it wheel hopped and spun bad as shown in the 2nd run. That was my first time racing this car.


I had the 712's and I don't care what other peoples reviews are, I will never buy another cheap ass kumho tire.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:59 PM
It may not be the tire. Cavaliers are known for having bad wheel hop. Try getting some control arm bushings it will help a little.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:04 PM
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02/Mar/05

Owner: Jared Politi (goldsunfire98)
Car: 1998 Pontiac Sunfire


R/T ... .008
60' ... 2.418
330 ... 6.815
1/8 ... 10.511
MPH ... 67.234
1000 ... 13.681
1/4 ... 16.400
MPH ... 82.938

thats the best i could get my 2200 to do...... not to bad if you ask me =)


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:05 PM
This time again, your 60 ' is very bad....

Our car should be able to put down 2,0-2,1 60'

First time i was at the strip i've done a 15,876 with a crappy 2,276 60' Try to launch lower( around 2300) , you wont get as much wheel hop.




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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:11 PM
i agree 88mph is only good for a mid 15 sec run.
when i was at the strip last year i hit 15.5 three runs out of four and that was at 88 i think
Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:14 PM
those were with 2.29-2.3ish 60'times
they were on the tires that probably came with the car.. then they had 70k on it

Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:36 PM
Trap speeds go down as traction increases.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:26 PM
yeah i ran today for the first time this year. Here is my best slip. It was great i got 21 runs in and we left earily. haha

2004 Cavalier Base with EcoTec
I have 17's on it also with a bunch of other mods and here is what i ran

R/T ... .290
60' ... 2.274
330 ... 6.541
1/8 ... 10.078
MPH ... 69.62
1000 ... 13.090
1/4 ... 15.634
MPH ... 88.16

what do you guys think?? still gotta work on my starts though and the nitrous comes next week. yah cant wait.


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:14 PM
FalloutBoy wrote:yeah i ran today for the first time this year. Here is my best slip. It was great i got 21 runs in and we left earily. haha

2004 Cavalier Base with EcoTec
I have 17's on it also with a bunch of other mods and here is what i ran

R/T ... .290
60' ... 2.274
330 ... 6.541
1/8 ... 10.078
MPH ... 69.62
1000 ... 13.090
1/4 ... 15.634
MPH ... 88.16

what do you guys think?? still gotta work on my starts though and the nitrous comes next week. yah cant wait.
good times were you power shifting?


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Re: I can't launch very well 1/4 Times inside
Sunday, April 03, 2005 11:18 PM
i ran 16.2 with crappy crappy 60' times and lotsa traction issues at launch. 88.6 trap speed. although i have a s/c. and i know thats extremely high for a s/c'ed z24. but i only ran twice and couldnt adjust for my problems so......



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