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people with mustang experience come here please
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:13 PM
Well im concidering getting a mustang, the years 95-2000 seem to be within my price range ($10,000 cdn max) but i thought i heard problems with there 6cyl engines for those years, but i dont remember where i heard that stuff. Are they prone to any problems? Any info is welcome

Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:27 PM
The 6 cyl in those years had quite a few problems, unlike the newer ones. I knew a few people with them, and most had major problems including head gaskets... Much earlier than they should have. Then again, though, my uncle had one. It wasn't driven for a few years (had a company car to drive instead) before he past away last year. It's back on the road now and running great.

Basically, if you take good care of it, maintain it, and don't try to drive it like it's a V8, you should have fairly good luck with it. Since you'd be buying it used, just make sure to get service records from the previous owner to make sure they kept up with it. If they didn't, don't get it.




-John

Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:30 PM
95-96 has the head gasket problems
they pretty much fixed the problem after that
but i would steer more towards a 4.6 anyways



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:37 PM
^^^ I'd agree with that... the difference is going to minimal in price, you'll probably enjoy a 4.6 more (if you only gently breathe on the gas pedal... fill-ups are harsh these days esp if you flog the throttle), and you'll have more aftermarket selection.

The only thing I can see as a downer other than the gas is the insurance, but that's remedied easily enough.






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Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:40 PM
yeah the insurance is the same if you have a 4 6 or 8 cylinder mustang
its a mustang, they put the same price on it for insurance



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:52 PM
my mom owned both a 02 and 04 mustang v6's and never had any issuses with them!
(now she owns a 06 mustang v6, has the same HP as the 99-04 v8's!!! it seems that the 05+ v6's have a lot more after market parts being made for em, i just ordered her a new AEM intake for the car ]



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Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:05 PM
^^ Unfortunatly i cant afford a 02 or 04 lol, Im sure i would enjoy a 4.6 more, but the cost of gas is whats stopping me from going to the 8cyl, heres teh MPG i got off the net.

6cyl: 20MPG city 30MPG highway
8cyl: 17MPG city 27MPG HIghway

Not a huge diff actually...
On my Cavy:

23MPG city 33 HIghway.

I know its not a fair comparison, putting a 4cyl against a 8cyl, but here in Canada its 93.9c/L and its like $40 for a tank and that lasts me for almost the 2 weeks with my driving. So im not sure what that world work out to for filling up the 8cyl. Also, how fast would that gas go (assuming i go the speed limit). Im not a genious with cars, and ive never owned anything other than the Cavy and another 4banger. So, what am i looking at $$ wise for gas, as in the cost of fill up, and how long that'll last lol. Also, are there any problems with the 8cyl, like there is with the 6? And how much does something like the problem with the head gasket cost to fix?
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:16 PM
you'll still have fun with a v6


just make sure you get a intake and exhuast, and you'll be happy! (you'll sound almost like a v8 )


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Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:27 PM
Dick Johnson wrote:now she owns a 06 mustang v6, has the same HP as the 99-04 v8's!!!




2006 V6 Mustang = 210hp
1999-2004 V8 Mustang = 260hp



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:30 PM
^^ Maybe he ment 94-99?? just a guess lol or hes talking out his ass, i dunno Dont really care either lol. Back on topic lol.
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:36 PM
Dick Johnson wrote:you'll still have fun with a v6


just make sure you get a intake and exhuast, and you'll be happy! (you'll sound almost like a v8 )



Ya i just thought that the MPG is pretty damn close to my 4banger cavy, only off by bout 3mpg on city and highway. Sure as hell will be faster lol, but again with the headgasket problem, is that an expencive problem to fix? How can it be avoided? Im no street racer and crap, but i want something with pep lol, i do like my cavy, but i not interested in ever modding the engine and stuff., I figure a v6 with the mods you suggested should be just right Im thinking the 8cyl will be too tempting for me, ill wanna go FAST lol the 6 should be just the right ammount of Oomph.

Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:38 PM
if you ask me they are all p.o.s's i had one, teh damn thing slid sideways into a ditch. from a full stop on an icy road. there wasn't even a cross wind. the car was basically useless in the winter. if you wanted to get anywhere, either fill the trunk with sand bags and then walk, because you are still going to go into the ditch. i personally would never buy one again. unless it was a '66 and a trailer queen.



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:54 PM
ya i heard somethig about certain years not having enough weight on the rear ends, my dads police detachment stopped using them in 95 i think, are the 96-2000's as bad?? For winter id get a beater anyways lol. rwd is never as good as fwd for winter imo
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:12 AM
96-98 4.6's gt's are dogs. Stay clear of them.

I'd opt for a 94-95 5.0 or a 99+4.6

If you're even consider buying a mustang to modify getting a 6 cyl would be foolish... basically same mpg, insurance, looks, etc. and the v6's have no resale. If you do get a v6 a few months later you'll probably wish you had gotten the v8.

How is a car a pos because you can't drive? When their's ice on the road even a 4x4 can go in a ditch I would never drive a stang in the winter anyway...
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:22 AM
i can drive fine, i grew up driving in the snow, mustangs are just to light to handle anything further north then missouri, personally i would not recommend getting one. but if you decide that you will. then have fun. and further more rob a 4x4 won't go into a ditch from a dead stop. learn to read. dead stop as in not moving. not progressing forward. according to issac newton no forward momentum means no go. the thing slid sideways as in perpendicular to the road, the tires, and the non exsistant forward motion.



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:49 AM
I can read fine and drive fine....

Wow did Issac Newton drive a 4x4 into a ditch from a dead stop? No...But plenty of other people have... lol

What I'm saying is if the roads are crappy enough anything will go into a ditch. You're right about a stang being a poor choice for a winter car.
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:07 AM
sorry to post back as a jeck rob; its three in the morning and i have been trying to map movement for an architecture project that i am working on. you are right that issac newton did not have a 4x4, he has always seemed to be more of an italian sports car fan to me. when i had my mustang i tried everything to weight it down.



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:26 AM
Robtco99 wrote:96-98 4.6's gt's are dogs. Stay clear of them.

I second that. A friend of mine has a 97 GT 5-speed with an intake, headers, offroad h-pipe, and exhaust dumps in front of the rear axle, and he only managed a 14.6 or something like that. it's pretty damn slow.







Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:44 AM
Robtco99 wrote:96-98 4.6's gt's are dogs. Stay clear of them.

I'd opt for a 94-95 5.0 or a 99+4.6

If you're even consider buying a mustang to modify getting a 6 cyl would be foolish... basically same mpg, insurance, looks, etc. and the v6's have no resale. If you do get a v6 a few months later you'll probably wish you had gotten the v8.

How is a car a pos because you can't drive? When their's ice on the road even a 4x4 can go in a ditch I would never drive a stang in the winter anyway...


um 94-95 and 96-96 v8s have the same hp and torque in a vehicle that weighs the same
soooo they would both be "dogs" compared to a 99+ 4.6

and mustangs are about as heavy as any regular sedan
if youre complaining about going into a ditch because of ice, then stay off the road with any vehicle
from a dead stop, you must have been on a road that was angled because if there is no wind, then how the hell else is it gonna move? and if that was the case ANY CAR would slide sideways on that kind of angle.
weight and traction means NOTHING on a frictionless surface
and any rear wheel drive car is not a great idea for a winter car (emphasis on car, trucks are a different story)



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:16 AM
you want a snow machine...let me tell you...a 89-91 cadillac eldorado...that Mfkr could not be stoped



Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:29 AM
Mustangs are pretty bad in winter unless you get some truck winter tires with deep grooves and put some weight in the trunk.

A trick with bad head gaskets is to change the radiator fluid in the car twice as often as you're supposed to and get the whole cooling system flushed. It's not that expensive and the the fluid won't eat through the cheap gasket because it's gotten all acidic from age. I got that advice from a Sunfire owner who'se got 320,000kms on his car. Usually with the 2200's it's the head gasket that goes. The guy's a chemist, so he's gotta know what he's talking about.

As for a Mustang, stay away from Automatics. Later models aren't as bad as the AOD and 4ALD dogs of 1984-1993, but they're not that great either. Fords have two major problems: One is the automatic transmission which you can avoid by getting a manual, the other is the electrical system which is cheap as crap and goes haywire after a while. My 1990 Mustang has so many shorts that I finally gave up trying to find them all. So keep an eye out for rusted cars (the rust snaps the wires and makes it worse). Have the battery tested to see if it's weak and get the alternator tested. Try everything electrical on the car, EVERYTHING, even the trunk popper. If something doesn't work, then that means something else is a few months away from breaking. Always remember that no one sells a car for no reason.

Another problem that used to be major, but is not minor-ish, is rust. Check to see if the car's filled with gas when you try it out. Mustang's are notorious for the gas tank rust and guy's will keep then 1/4 full or something to keep them from leaking. Check the doors, under the rear bumper and inside the trunk. Check under the floor pans too. Try the parking brake to see if it works.

Oh, and do I need to tell you to look for extremely worn rear tires as an indication of wether or not the car's had the @!#$ beaten out of it?

Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:36 AM
I remember when the 96's first came out. Hot Rod Magazine did a hop up on the 4.6 and a new z28. They threw the typical bolt ons on them and the mustang really didn't improve at all. I've heard from many people that they're dogs until you swap the heads... The 5.0's actually respond to mods.

Your probably gonna have a hard time finding a 99 gt+ 5 speed for 10k cdn.
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:49 AM
Quote:

I'd opt for a 94-95 5.0 or a 99+4.6


+1


I know the 5.0's have about the same power as the 96-98 4.6's.....but the 5.0 is a better built motor with cheaper mods..not to mention the endless possibilities with the block.




5pointO

Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:57 AM
Ok.... youve pretty much scared me off of mustangs lol. Another i was also concidering from another thread was a 90-00 Camaro z28. Problem is the mpg of the v8's scares me. the V6's are pretty much the same Mpg as the v6 stangs, but the v8's are not exactly amazing either lol. Although the 99' isn't terrible really:

V6
MPG (city) 19
MPG (highway) 30

V8
MPG (city) 19
MPG (highway) 28

I dont understand how the v6 and v8 can have such similar MPG rateings? I have heard good things about there v8s as for the power+mpg. Anyone have any experience with these cars?
Re: people with mustang experience come here pleas
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:57 PM
Lash wrote:
Quote:

I'd opt for a 94-95 5.0 or a 99+4.6


+1


I know the 5.0's have about the same power as the 96-98 4.6's.....but the 5.0 is a better built motor with cheaper mods..not to mention the endless possibilities with the block.


i only agree with everyone sayin this because i hate the body style of the 94-98
so get a 99+ or a 93



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