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2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:55 PM
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2011 Chevrolet Cruze at a Glance:

-Popular global car refined for America
-Expected segment-best fuel economy – up to 40 mpg highway – with new family of small-displacement engines, including Ecotec 1.4L I-4 turbo
-Progressive design with exceptional levels of refinement, quietness and build quality
-More spacious interior and greater cargo room than Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla
-Ten standard air bags help make it one of the safest cars in its class
-Built at Lordstown, Ohio assembly plant
-On sale in third quarter of 2010
-Five-year/100,000-mile powertain warranty – the best coverage in America

Chevrolet unveils the U.S. production version of the 2011 Cruze compact sedan at the L.A. Auto Show on Dec. 2. It is a global car refined for America, delivering many segment-leading features and details that challenge preconceived notions about what a compact car can be in North America.

The Cruze also affirms Chevrolet’s commitment to building refined, fuel-efficient vehicles, with new, small-displacement four-cylinder engines. It is expected to deliver segment-leading fuel economy with a new Ecotec 1.4L I-4 turbo with variable valve timing – including up to 40 mpg on the highway with a high-efficiency model.

“Cruze is already a hit across Europe and Asia; and now, it’s coming to America to challenge the status quo,” said Brent Dewar, GM Vice President, Chevrolet Global brand. “Along with the Volt electric vehicle, Cruze is the latest tangible example of how Chevrolet is working on exciting products that range from gas-friendly to gas-free.”

Leveraging Chevrolet’s design and engineering talent in Asia, Europe and North America, the Cruze brings to market a progressive, globally influenced design complemented by exceptional levels of quietness, quality and attention to detail – from precise tolerances between body panels to the use of premium materials throughout the interior.

“The amenities, quietness and roominess you expect in larger cars are what the Cruze delivers,” said Margaret Brooks, Chevrolet product marketing manager. “This is a car that will shake up the compact segment, with a more spacious interior and more cargo room than the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla.”

Cruze goes on sale in the U.S. in the third quarter of 2010 but has already logged more than 4 million miles in quality and durability testing worldwide, making it one of the most real world-tested GM products prior to a U.S. launch. The U.S. and Canadian versions of the Cruze will be built in Lordstown, Ohio, where $350 million was invested for their production.

More than expected

The 2011 Chevrolet Cruze will be offered in LS, LT and LTZ trims. Standard and available equipment includes:

-New family of efficient four-cylinder engines, including a 1.4L turbo and 1.8L
-Six-speed automatic and manual transmissions
-Ten standard air bags, including frontal, side-impact, roof rail head curtain, rear seat side air bags and new knee air bags
-Electronic stability control with rollover sensing
-Bluetooth, USB connectivity and navigation system
-XM Satellite Radio and OnStar
-MacPherson strut front suspension and Watts Z-link rear suspension, with a family of 16-, 17- and 18-inch wheels
-Standard StabiliTrak electronic stability control, traction control and anti-lock brakes
-Fuel-saving, rack-mounted electric power steering
-Unexpected levels of quietness, smoothness and refinement for the segment

All models share an interior characterized by premium materials and a lengthy roster of unexpected equipment, including leading infotainment. A stereo system that includes MP3 playback capability, six speakers and an auxiliary jack for personal playback devices is standard. A premium Pioneer sound system is available, as is a USB port for iPod operation. Other available technologies include Bluetooth and a navigation system.

“There’s a lot of content in all Cruze models; it was designed to give customers the features they want regardless of the car’s size or segment,” said Brooks. “At a very competitive price, you’ll be able to get a Cruze with leather and heated front seats, 16-inch aluminum wheels, XM Satellite Radio, OnStar, Bluetooth, a USB port for your iPod, cruise control, power locks and power outside mirrors.”

Arching roofline

Chevy Cruze’s design is distinguished with a bold face – including a two-tier grille with the iconic Bowtie logo – that is Chevrolet’s signature look around the globe. An arching roofline connects a steeply raked windshield and fast-sloping rear pillars to give the car a sporty, coupe-like proportion.

The sporty aesthetic is also seen in prominent headlamp housings that wrap around the corners and sweep upward in the fenders and sculpted hood, as well as a short rear deck typically found on sports coupes. The wheels are at the corners, too, with minimal front and rear overhangs. All the elements work cohesively to give Cruze an aggressive look that is complemented by a wide, confident stance.

Indeed, the Cruze is wider and longer than most of its competitors. Taut, tightly drawn bodywork conveys solidity, while restrained use of exterior trim enhances the car’s high-quality feel. The overall appearance is one of purposeful precision.

Precision is also seen in the Cruze’s build quality. The Lordstown assembly plant’s body shop was retooled with the latest in body-framing and welding equipment to optimize the manufacture of a very solid body structure. That strong structure fosters minimal production variance and repeatable gap tolerances of 3 mm or less between most exterior panels. To the customer, this means a better looking car when new and one that feels solid for years to come.

Interior refinement

Cruze’s bold design cues and attention to detail carry over to the interior, where a Corvette-inspired twin-cockpit motif is matched with high-quality materials and exceptional assembly tolerances. Grained, soft-touch components and low-gloss trim panels exude a quality that is uncommon in the segment.

The instrument panel is an excellent example of how Cruze eschews expectations of compact cars. It features richly detailed instruments that are backlit with light-emitting diode (LED) technology. The LED lights provide a crisp, ice-blue illumination of the analog instruments, as well as lighting for other interior controls. A segment-rare standard driver information center offers a wealth of data for the vehicle owner.

Blending harmoniously with the instrument panels is an integrated center stack that houses the infotainment display, climate controls and radio controls. Flush-mounted components within the center stack have a gap tolerance of less than 1 mm, while the instrument panel-to-door panel gaps are less than 5 mm. Those tolerances are among the best in the class and contribute significantly to the Cruze’s aura of refinement and precision.

Cruze’s headliner and pillar trim exude craftsmanship, too. The headliner cover is made of a knit material that also serves as one of five layers of an acoustically designed headliner to help make the passenger compartment quieter. The interior pillar and other moldings are color- and grain-matched to the headliner, while seat inserts are color-matched to the color of the instrument panel accent trim, giving the cabin the detailed appearance of larger, upscale sedans.

New, efficient powertrains

Enhanced with its exhaust-driven turbocharger, the Cruze’s Ecotec 1.4L turbo performs like a larger engine when needed, but retains the efficiency of a small-displacement four-cylinder in most driving conditions. It is standard on LT and LTZ models, with power ratings estimated at 138 horsepower (103 kW) and 148 lb.-ft. of torque (200 Nm).

Standard on LS models is an Ecotec 1.8L four-cylinder that has the same basic architecture as the 1.4L turbo. Both engines are part of GM’s family of global small-displacement engines designed with fuel efficiency in mind, including technology such as full variable valve timing that optimizes performance and fuel economy across the rpm band.

Backing the Cruze’s new four-cylinder engines are six-speed manual and automatic transmissions. Each contributes to Cruze’s excellent fuel economy and, with their carefully matched gears, enhances its fun-to-drive quotient.

With the Ecotec 1.4L turbo, Cruze’s fuel efficiency enables a cruising range of more than 500 miles (800 km), meaning it can go longer between fill-ups.

Cruze is backed by GM’s five-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty – the best coverage in America.

Responsive, quiet driving experience

Complementing Cruze’s new powertrains is a strong body structure and chassis system designed to deliver a responsive and fun driving experience. The body structure is tight and stiff; and its solidity enabled engineers to more precisely tune the chassis for comfort and driving control.

A MacPherson strut suspension is used up front, while a technically advanced Watts Z-link design is used with the rear suspension. It helps center the rear axle during cornering, helping to keep the Cruze’s handling responses symmetrical on both left-hand and right-hand turns. The linkage’s capability to center the axle during cornering delivers a more balanced driving experience, as the rear suspension better follows the lead of the front suspension.

StabiliTrak electronic stability control with rollover mitigation, as well as traction control and anti-lock brakes are standard. Electric power steering is also standard on all models. It helps save fuel because it removes the conventional power steering pump from the engine’s driven accessories. Sixteen-inch wheels are standard on LS and LT models, with 17-inch alloy wheels standard on LTZ. Eighteen-inch alloy wheels are available on 2LT and LTZ models.

Along with a responsive driving experience, the Cruze delivers quietness and refinement on the road. Hydraulic ride bushings and an isolated engine cradle reduce or eliminate vibration pathways that could be transmitted to the passenger compartment. Similarly, a number of noise-reducing and noise-cancelling technologies are employed throughout the body structure, including 18 distinctive acoustical treatments. Examples include:

-The steel front-of-dash panel is sandwiched between two damping mats
-Nylon baffles are used in various hollow portions of the body structure and filled with sound-absorbing foam that expands when the body enters the paint oven
-The headliner comprises five layers of thermal fiber acoustic material, including a premium woven fabric on the visible outer layer
-Patches of sound-damping material are applied strategically throughout the body structure and melt into place when the body passes through the paint oven, allowing the patches to follow the contours of the sheet metal below
-Sound insulation material between rear-body structural components that is made from recycled blue jean material
-The doors have triple seals and feature fiberglass “blankets” that serve as water, airflow and noise barriers. The doors are also beta-braced, meaning they close with a solid, precise sound and no resonance.

2011 CHEVROLET CRUZE SPECIFICATIONS

Overview

Models:
2011 Chevrolet Cruze

Body style / driveline:
four-door, 5-passenger front engine transaxle; front-wheel-drive compact car

Construction:
steel body frame integral (unibody) with front and rear crumple zones; galvanized steel front fenders, hood, roof, door panels, one-piece bodyside outer panel, thermal plastic olefin (TPO) bumper fascias

Manufacturing location:
Lordstown, Ohio

Key competitors:
Toyota Corolla; Honda Civic; Ford Focus; Hyundai Elantra; Nissan Sentra


Engines

1.8L DOHC I-4
1.4L turbocharged DOHC I-4

Displacement (cu. in. / cc):
110 / 1796
83.2 / 1364

Bore and stroke (in. / mm):
3.17 x 3.47 / 80.5 x 88.2
2.85 x 3.25 / 72.5 x 82.6

Block material:
cast iron
cast iron

Cylinder head material:
cast aluminum
cast aluminum

Valvetrain:
overhead camshafts, four-valves per cylinder, double continuously cam phaser intake and exhaust (DCVCP)
overhead camshafts, four-valves per cylinder, double continuously cam phaser intake and exhaust (DCVCP)

Ignition system:
individual coil on plug
individual coil on plug

Fuel delivery:
sequential multi-port fuel injectors with electronic throttle control
sequential multi-port fuel injectors with electronic throttle control

Compression ratio:
10.5:1
9.5:1

Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm):
136 / 101 @ 6300 (est.)
138 / 103 @ 4900 (est.)

Torque (lb.-ft. / Nm @ rpm):
123 / 167 @ 3800 (est.)
148 / 200 @ 1850 (est.)

Recommended fuel:
regular unleaded
regular unleaded

Max engine speed (rpm):
6500
6500

Emissions controls:
close-coupled catalytic converters; Quick-Sync 58x ignition system; returnless fuel rail; fast light-off O2 sensor
close-coupled and underfloor catalytic converters; Quick-Sync 58x ignition system; returnless fuel rail; fast light-off O2 sensor

EPA-est. fuel economy
(city / hwy):
TBD
TBD


Transmissions
M32 6-speed manual (1.8L)
M32 6-speed manual (1.4L turbo)
Hydra-Matic 6T40 6-speed automatic

Type:
six-speed transverse, electronically controlled, automatic overdrive transmission

Gear Ratios (:1)

First:
3.82
3.82
4.58

Second:
2.16
2.05
2.96

Third:
1.47
1.30
1.91

Fourth:
1.07
0.96
1.44

Fifth:
0.87
0.74
1.00

Sixth:
0.74
0.61
0.74

Reverse:
3.54
3.54
2.94

Final drive:
3.94
4.18
3.87


Chassis/Suspension

Front:
independent, MacPherson strut-type with side-loaded strut modules, specifically tuned coil springs, direct-acting stabilizer bar (hollow); hydraulic ride bushings.

Rear:
specifically adapted compound crank (torsion beam) with double-walled, U-shaped profile at the rear, Z-link (tunable control arm)

Traction control:
all-speed using engine torque reduction and brake intervention

Steering type:
rack-mounted electric power steering

Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
TBD

Turning circle, curb-to-curb (feet / meters):
TBD

Steering ratio:
15.5:1

Brakes

Type:
power front disc, rear drum w/ESC (std.)
power 4-wheel disc w/ESC (opt.)

Brake rotor diameter – front (mm / in.):
16-inch wheels: 276 / 10.8 vented; single-piston w/steel caliper
17- and 18-inch wheels: 300 / 11.8 vented; single-piston w/steel caliper

Brake rotor diameter – rear (mm / in.):
17-inch and 18-inch: 292 / 11.5 vented; single-piston w/steel caliper

Total swept area
(cu cc; pad area):
TBD


Wheels / Tires

Wheel size and type:
16-inch steel (std. LS & 1LT)
16-inch alloy (opt. on 1LT; std. on 2LT)
17-inch alloy (std. on LTZ)
18-inch alloy (opt. on 2LT and LTZ)

Tires:
16-inch: 215/50R16 ALS
17-inch: 225/50R17 ALS
18-inch: 235/45R18 ALS


Dimensions
Exterior

Wheelbase (in. / mm):
105.7 / 2685

Overall length (in. / mm):
178.5 / 4535

Overall width (in. / mm):
70.7 / 1796

Overall height (in. / mm):
58.2 / 1480

Track width front (in. / mm):
60.7 / 1544

Track width rear (in. / mm):
61.3 / 1558


Interior

Seating capacity (front / rear):
2 / 3

Headroom (in. / mm):
39 / 990 (front)
37 / 940 (rear)

Legroom (in. / mm):
42 / 1067 (front)
36.5 / 917 (rear)

Shoulder room (in. / mm):
54.7 / 1391 (front)
52 / 1321 (rear)

Hip room (in. / mm):
TBD

Passenger volume (cu. ft. / L) :
95 / 2690

Cargo volume (cu. ft. / L):
15 / 425


Capacities

Trailer towing maximum (lb. / kg):
TBD

Fuel tank (gal. / L):
15 / 57

Cooling system (qt. / L):
TBD




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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:04 PM
i actually dig it.. it just needs to be lower

they should offer their WTCC styling version




Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:17 PM
should make a more powerfull sport version like an SS trim

the SS trim should meet the same requirements the cadilac V trim line does



JBO since July 30, 2001
Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:29 PM
wow thats nice.. with some mods that 1.4 could see 150+ whp easy and make it a little nice car...



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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:40 PM
That interior looks great, i really hope they release a ss version of this.
Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:21 PM
I'm a huge fan of this car, I love the front end. I would love for them to produce a coupe SS version.



Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:55 PM
whats the weight on it ?

and WTF is with gm and the crappy coo coo puke brown int color ?







Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:18 PM
i like the front end! the turbocharged option is nice! the interior in another color would be hott i bet!



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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:26 PM
Stephen (manta z) wrote:

i actually dig it.. it just needs to be lower

Funny you should say that. I did some crude but effective photoshops of this car when Goodwrench sneaky peeked this car earlier in the year. I did it to show the car has potential to look decent with just a few tweaks.


Very Audi looking with a small drop.



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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 12:23 AM
Quote:

Rear:
specifically adapted compound crank (torsion beam) with double-walled, U-shaped profile at the rear, Z-link (tunable control arm)


Hell yeah, that's the first time EVER, that I can recall a small, domestic GM car having a somewhat sophisticated rear suspension. Not that there is anything wrong with the simple twist beam/McPhereson strut setup, it just goes to show that GM might actually be putting a little more effort into this car.




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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 4:01 AM
Did i read correctly that both engines are cast iron blocks? Please tell me that's a typo - should be cast aluminum with iron sleeves, no?

I'm also curious about the rear suspension because I still see the dreaded words "torsion beam"

I'm actually a fan of the two tone leather with the brown...




Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 6:25 AM
97cavie24ls(™) wrote:

whats the weight on it ?

and WTF is with gm and the crappy coo coo puke brown int color ?


Lighter than the Cobalt.

Roughly under 3,000 lbs.
Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 7:18 AM
I definitely think they should make a coupe and SS:







Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 8:07 AM
Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:

wow thats nice.. with some mods that 1.4 could see 150+ whp easy and make it a little nice car...


like u would stop at 150whp. lol






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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 8:35 AM
97cavie24ls(™) wrote:

whats the weight on it ?

Approx: 2843-2899lbs for a N/A engine manual and auto respectively. But don't quote me on that just yet, as that's for the Euro version only and safety standards are different so weight (may) rise. The diesel model weighs in at 3145lbs.

Roofy wrote:

Quote:

Rear:
specifically adapted compound crank (torsion beam) with double-walled, U-shaped profile at the rear, Z-link (tunable control arm)


Hell yeah, that's the first time EVER, that I can recall a small, domestic GM car having a somewhat sophisticated rear suspension. Not that there is anything wrong with the simple twist beam/McPhereson strut setup, it just goes to show that GM might actually be putting a little more effort into this car.


What GM says again...
This features a specifically adapted compound crank (torsion beam) with a double-walled, U-shaped profile. It is attached to the trailing links, slightly ahead of the rear wheels, forming a shallow 'H' pattern in plan view.
The design combines all the space-saving advantages of a conventional torsion beam axle with low weight and consistent wheel camber control.
A key enhancement is a patented 'magnetic-arc' welding process, used to attach the beam to the trailing links. This production technology enables the thickness of the torsion beam to be varied and different attachment angles between the beam and the trailing links. These variables allow the adjustment of roll-rate and roll-steer characteristics according to different engines and vehicle weights.
The use of larger, 68.5 mm bushings at the forward mounting points of the trailing links further reduces noise and vibration. Intensive development of the beam's twisting characteristics has also led to an increased rear wheel steer effect, further improving the responsiveness of the chassis.
Another benefit of the compact rear axle layout is that it contributes to a lower center of gravity. The approx 15.8 gallon fuel tank fits low down between the wheels, enabling a lower positioning of the rear seats.

oldskool wrote:

Did i read correctly that both engines are cast iron blocks? Please tell me that's a typo - should be cast aluminum with iron sleeves, no?

I'm also curious about the rear suspension because I still see the dreaded words "torsion beam"

I'm actually a fan of the two tone leather with the brown...

Yes, iron block. It is the Ecotec from Opel/Europe.
Until I see it personally, I think that GM/Daewoo placed in a Watt's linkage in the back.

----
Also here is what it looks lowered: Chevrolet Cruze by Irmscher







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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 8:54 AM
That's one of the first GM car, and probably the first small car, that looks great from any angle. The interior rocks as well, although I'm not a huge fan of that color combo.







Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 9:19 AM
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:

97cavie24ls(™) wrote:

whats the weight on it ?

Approx: 2843-2899lbs for a N/A engine manual and auto respectively. But don't quote me on that just yet, as that's for the Euro version only and safety standards are different so weight (may) rise. The diesel model weighs in at 3145lbs.

Roofy wrote:

Quote:

Rear:
specifically adapted compound crank (torsion beam) with double-walled, U-shaped profile at the rear, Z-link (tunable control arm)


Hell yeah, that's the first time EVER, that I can recall a small, domestic GM car having a somewhat sophisticated rear suspension. Not that there is anything wrong with the simple twist beam/McPhereson strut setup, it just goes to show that GM might actually be putting a little more effort into this car.


What GM says again...
This features a specifically adapted compound crank (torsion beam) with a double-walled, U-shaped profile. It is attached to the trailing links, slightly ahead of the rear wheels, forming a shallow 'H' pattern in plan view.
The design combines all the space-saving advantages of a conventional torsion beam axle with low weight and consistent wheel camber control.
A key enhancement is a patented 'magnetic-arc' welding process, used to attach the beam to the trailing links. This production technology enables the thickness of the torsion beam to be varied and different attachment angles between the beam and the trailing links. These variables allow the adjustment of roll-rate and roll-steer characteristics according to different engines and vehicle weights.
The use of larger, 68.5 mm bushings at the forward mounting points of the trailing links further reduces noise and vibration. Intensive development of the beam's twisting characteristics has also led to an increased rear wheel steer effect, further improving the responsiveness of the chassis.
Another benefit of the compact rear axle layout is that it contributes to a lower center of gravity. The approx 15.8 gallon fuel tank fits low down between the wheels, enabling a lower positioning of the rear seats.

oldskool wrote:

Did i read correctly that both engines are cast iron blocks? Please tell me that's a typo - should be cast aluminum with iron sleeves, no?

I'm also curious about the rear suspension because I still see the dreaded words "torsion beam"

I'm actually a fan of the two tone leather with the brown...

Yes, iron block. It is the Ecotec from Opel/Europe.
Until I see it personally, I think that GM/Daewoo placed in a Watt's linkage in the back.

----
Also here is what it looks lowered: Chevrolet Cruze by Irmscher





terrible on the coloring



Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 9:28 AM
Still not liking it. And way too under powered. Great technology, but i'm betting a nearly 3000lb. car with heavy iron block being pulled by a 1.4l or even a 1.8l motor...even with a turbo will be a dog.

The Mini Cooper S is 2,679lbs. with a 1.6 turbo motor And is not a powerhouse, fun but not amazing.

The Cooper makes: 172 HP SAE @ 5,500 rpm & 177 ft lb of TQ

The Cruze 1.4t makes: 136 / 101 @ 6300 rpm & 123 ft lb of TQ @ 3800
The Cruze 1.8 makes: 138 / 103 @ 4900 (est.) & 148 ft lb of TQ @ 1850

For comparison
The 2002 Suzuki Esteem had a N/A DOHC 16-valve 1.8l motor that put out 132hp @ 6,300 and only had a curb weight of 1,030 ( huge weight advantage over the new Cruze) And it was hardly anything anyone would brag about, I should know i had one...it sucked. The new Cruze is completely un-amazing, another cheaply built GM offering all looks and no inspired driving. While Honda, Ford, VW, Chrysler, Toyota/Scion, Mini and hell even Suzuki & Hyundai are offing more fun to drive compacts with great mpg's today. It would seem GM spent more money making the Volt than making a truely jaw dropping compact that is the must have for people that want to improve their fuel economy, but still want to have some fun (i.e. like the Mini). GM should have aimed for a car that handled and performed like a mini but offered the practicality and size of the Corolla/Civic. Sadly it looks like Suzuki was the one nailed it with the new Kizashi,.
This whole thing reeks of all marketing and no substance.

Personally in this segment when it comes to style, fun to drive performance, mpg's, build quality, and equipment the Suzuki Kizashi and Honda Civic will be hard to beat. And the Corolla is still the best value in this small sedan segment. GM should have striven to offer just a bit more punch than these guys...instead they settled for just being the same and ended up not even meeting that mark.








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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 9:46 AM
^I see what you're saying and that's your opinion, everyone is entitled to one.
But just on facts alone, this is finally an improvement over it's predecessor (expect engine output).
When Cobalt came out, it went backwards. You had a longer car, shorter wheelbase and interior room was smaller, the car itself was heavier by 200+lbs. Now the interior room will rival the Elantra and will be one of the roomiest in it's class, wheelbase is longer then the Cobalt and Cavalier, yes weight will go up, but now it makes sense as the car is bigger and has 10 heavy airbags and all sorts of safety features.
Being that Daewoo helped out, and judging how other Koreans build their cars, I will bet that the fit and finish will be competitive. Here's hoping GM installs more power, even though I doubt it will, as GMPD is dissolved.



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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 9:57 AM
i think it looks great, but as far as powertrain goes, i'll keep my cobalt. that car will be painfully slow.



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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 9:58 AM
Would it have killed them to just not refine and improve the 2.0l ecotec and offer the 1.4t as an option? IMHO these 2 new motors are a step backwards. When you look at something like Ford's ecoboost motors these 2 motors are a joke. Turbo charging an old heavy motor is nothing to brag about. Honda offers a 1.3l motor...nothing too amazing, oh, except it's also attached to a hybrid motor in the Insight. Making a cheap, easy to own hybrid that probably didn't cost as much in R&D as this Cruze turd did to GM.

To make this car something worth talking about, they should have improved the 2.0 they already had, kept the LNF version as well, and offered the 1.4l with a hybird system like the insight. This would have made this car something to talk about. An affordable American hybird everyone can own.






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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 11:06 AM
yuck. it looks like hyundai designed it.

no f'ing thanks.



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Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 1:14 PM
So these power plants are not true ecotecs. They are the Korean DOHC with a plastic valve cover that says "ecotec" and has the exhaust mani in the front of the motor, right?

I cannot believe the did not spring for IRS once again...

I agree, they should have de-stroked or detuned the LNF for fuel economy duty. As it is, i'm getting 30mpg in my solstice gxp with RWD drivetrain loss, about 3100 lbs and poor aero. They could have tuned it to about 200 hp and probably about 35-40 mpg without too much effort...



Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 1:19 PM
NO.

These ARE REAL Ecotecs.

Exhaust comes out by the firewall.
Re: 2011 Chevrolet Cruze
Monday, November 30, 2009 1:26 PM
Oh - then i'm still trying to figure out why use iron blocks instead of aluminum block/iron sleeve like every other real ecotec.



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