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Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:00 PM
Kind of looks like a Subaru Legacy







Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:02 PM
that shifter is kinda massive... wonder if the manual transmission shifter will be shorter. lol. I will take a 5 door hatch please
Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:34 AM
BTW, this is basically the same platform as the Mazda3 sedan/hatch right?



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:03 PM
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
deftonesfan817 wrote:
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
oldskool wrote:
deftonesfan817 wrote:Overpriced and over styled.
I missed the price - enlighten me?

There isn't any. All there is speculation, and that speculation is at the at or near the same price as today's Focus. This car needs another year before it goes on sale. As it nears the sale date, Ford will release the MSRP.


I read fully loaded it will run in the mid to upper 20's.

I can almost promise you that if a SVT version does come out it won't be cheap.

You, nor I, nor a website knows the price. Not even Ford knows the price yet, as they will have to see in what price range their competition will be at in a year from now.


besides the fact that mid to upper 20's is ridiculously high and puts it in competition (price-wise) with the fusion and cars in that class



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:31 PM
oldskool wrote:BTW, this is basically the same platform as the Mazda3 sedan/hatch right?


Yes.
Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:25 PM
Glad they ditched the fugly chrome grill, but where's the coupe? I've no need or desire to own a 4-door..
Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:00 PM
Update from Ford... .

ALL-NEW FORD FOCUS ACHIEVES FUEL EFFICIENCY WITH HIGH-TECH 2.0-LITER DIRECT-INJECTION I-4 ENGINE

•All-new Ford Focus will be powered by a fuel-efficient 2.0-liter DOHC I-4 engine with twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT), direct gasoline injection and E85 flex fuel capability that will deliver a projected 40 mpg highway
•New 2.0-liter is one of the most powerful, fuel-efficient and refined engines in its class and one of the most advanced non-turbocharged four-cylinder powerplants Ford has ever offered
•New engine reinforces Ford powertrain strategy that delivers on fuel economy leadership without sacrificing driving fun throughout its global offerings

DEARBORN, Mich., Oct. 21, 2010 – The 2.0-liter engine coming early next year to the North American version of the 2012 Ford Focus will be one of the first on the market to combine the technology of gasoline direct injection (DI) with twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT) and E85 flex fuel capability.

The combination of these technologies help make the dual-overhead-camshaft (DOHC) Focus 4-cylinder one of the most powerful, fuel-efficient and refined engines in its class and one of the most advanced non-turbocharged four-cylinder powerplants Ford has ever offered. Horsepower is rated at 160 and torque 146 lb.-ft., up from 140 and 136 respectively in the 2011 Ford Focus.

Direct injection improves fuel economy and performance by delivering the precise amount of gasoline right into the combustion chamber. The advanced fuel injection system works in concert with Ti-VCT, which adjusts the valve timing for optimum performance, helping Focus achieve an estimated 40 mpg highway with automatic transmission. And flex fuel capability gives drivers the choice of using less-expensive E85, a blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline.

The direct-injected 2.0-liter Ti-VCT I-4 also serves as another example of Ford delivering fuel economy leadership by using advanced technologies to produce surprising power from minimal displacement. The engine can deliver outstanding fuel economy and emissions along with the throttle response, performance and flexibility expected from a world-class engine.

“By combining direct injection and Ti-VCT, we’ve been able to make a quantum leap in fuel economy and performance,” said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. “We’re meeting the goals of our global powertrain strategy, and we now have another key engine in our lineup.”

Core engine technologies
As a DOHC design, the 2.0-liter I-4 uses two camshafts: one to open the intake valves and one to open the exhaust valves. Traditionally, camshafts have only been able to open the valves at a fixed point, defined during engine design and manufacture. But with modern variable cam timing systems, the camshafts can be rotated slightly relative to their initial position, allowing the cam timing to be advanced or retarded.

Ti-VCT takes this technology and applies it to both the intake and exhaust camshafts of its DOHC design, using electronic solenoid valves to direct high-pressure oil to control vanes in each of the camshaft sprocket housings. By using one oil control solenoid per camshaft, controlled by the electronic control module, each intake and exhaust cam can be advanced or retarded independently of the other as engine operating conditions change, providing an exceptional degree of valve timing control.

“The overlap control via Ti-VCT helps us eliminate compromises in the induction and exhaust systems,” said Jamie Hanshaw, Ford VCT technical specialist. “Drivers will notice improved low-end power and better fuel economy. And there are benefits they won’t notice too, like reduced emissions overall, especially at part-throttle.”

Fuel metering duties on the 2.0-liter I-4 are handled by an injection system that precisely delivers a fine mist of fuel directly into each cylinder for optimal performance, economy and emissions. Unlike port fuel injection (PFI) engines that spray fuel into the intake system, the direct injection system puts the fuel in the combustion chamber, exactly where it needs to be for combustion.

Thanks to DI, the engine can safely operate at a high 12:1 compression ratio, compared with the 2011 Focus PFI engine’s 10:1 ratio, further enhancing power and efficiency. And unlike most competitive direct injection systems, the engine will be E85 flex fuel-capable.

The high-pressure fuel injectors are positioned to the side of each cylinder, aiming the fuel directly into the cylinder adjacent to a high-intensity spark plug and alongside the intake and exhaust valves. Fuel is sprayed into the cylinders at pressures of up to 2,150 pounds per square inch, which is about 35 times more intense than PFI injection.

“The DI system creates an incredibly fine spray of gasoline that’s injected directly into the combustion chamber at the precise moment it’s needed, eliminating a lot of the compromises of traditional fuel systems,” explains Scott Makowski, I-4 engine manager. “It sounds simple, but months of testing and computer simulation went into finding the exact injector spray pattern, where in the cylinder to aim the spray, and even the piston dome design.”

The Denso high-pressure fuel injectors use internal solenoids to precisely switch the flow of fuel on and off. Fuel flows through six tiny outlets – like pinholes – in each injector, and each spray is positioned to provide benefits in fuel economy and emissions. A sophisticated electronic control system varies the timing and intensity of the fuel delivery according to engine operating conditions.

Attention to detail yields fuel economy improvements
Complementing the efficiencies introduced by Ti-VCT and DI, every aspect of the proven 2.0-liter I-4 was examined to identify ways fuel economy could be improved. Key strategies focused on reducing internal engine friction and reducing overall weight.

Computer modeling indicated areas where friction reduction strategies would pay the most dividends. The valvetrain received a fine surface treatment to present the smoothest surface possible. Piston skirts are treated with a special low-friction coating, and the oil pump and its drive ratio are sized for the exact capacity requirements of the new 2.0-liter engine.

Accessory drive friction was also reduced through a series of actions. Electric power-assisted steering (EPAS) eliminates the drag of an engine-driven power steering pump, while the use of so-called stretchy belt technology removes friction in the form of a belt tensioner on the air-conditioning compressor drive system.

Additionally, an overriding alternator decoupler – essentially a special pulley that reduces certain types of vibrations – allows the alternator and water pump drive belt to operate at a much lower tension than is typically used, further reducing frictional losses.

To keep overall powertrain weight as low as possible, the block, cylinder head and oil pan – traditionally the heaviest engine components – are aluminum castings. To increase rigidity, these elements are ribbed for additional strength and durability. Pistons are cast aluminum as well, with the light weight helping to reduce reciprocating mass.

Composite material is employed to keep intake manifold weight to an absolute minimum, while allowing for induction routing to increase thermal efficiency and improve low-end torque characteristics.

“The new Focus will be among the global leaders in fuel economy and CO2 emissions,” said Kuzak. “We will continue to pioneer new technologies beyond launch, including the zero-emissions Focus Electric BEV launching in North America in 2011. Throughout its life cycle, Focus in all forms, in all regions, will demonstrate the Ford commitment to deliver unsurpassed fuel economy on a truly global scale.”

The engine will be manufactured in Ford’s Dearborn, Mich., Dearborn Engine Plant.





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Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Friday, October 22, 2010 7:54 AM
I think it looks great. Ford is doing amazing things lately!




Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Friday, October 22, 2010 8:08 AM
I will reserve my opinion of it for once it is actually for sale here and we can drive whatever watered down boring engine they put in it.



FORGET GIRLS GONE WILD WE HAVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING GONE WILD!

Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Friday, October 22, 2010 8:43 AM
LOVE this car.

Ford > GM

Are they still offering an eco-boost engine for this platform?

Hook up North America with the Focus RS and Ford will have officially won my heart.





Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Friday, October 22, 2010 8:48 AM
Sedan doesn't look to bad, not sure about the hatch though.








Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Saturday, October 23, 2010 3:47 PM
I dig.



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:09 PM
I'm late to the party here but I have driven 2 different 4 door sedan, both 5speed one S and one SE. Will prob be buying an SE very soon. $18,999 CDN with a great level of kit. Have compared it to a few others in it's class, today the Kia Forte and the New Elantra and they suck compared to it. The interior refinement is superb, whisper quiet but you can still hear the motor when you get on it. It's much quicker than the other (not fast but quick enough) handles superbly, supposedly has the torque vectoring front diff, i threw it into a few corners at where i expected the limit to be but i didn't seem to be close. I can't find fault in this car at this price point. Trunk is big, plenty of passenger room comfortable supportive seats. etc etc.



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:54 PM
I will have to agree with the man above.

I've driven the new Focus Se this week and it was top notch. I had high expectations for this car and the 65 kilometers in it this week was great. Deffinatley will be buying one since we'll need more space since we're going to have a child in a few weeks.
Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:59 PM
The model I had was 23,995 CDN though! All in.

I really love my Forte Koup Sx but for basically the same price the Focus SE was, and I'll be honest,very very nice. The car will be hard to compete against in it's class. Engine and transmission were smooth as hell, interior very well made with quality materials and a lot of leg room in back. A winner in my book. Never thought I'd buy a Ford one day. LOL
Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:16 PM
$23995 CDN with ac tax, admin etc? this one is $23200-ish all said and done. $18999 is MSRP. Dealer invoice on it was $17499 so they weren't too willing to give a deal got the to give us $500 off. I didn't like any of the Ford rims for the car. will have steelies but fingers crossed will get some aftermarket rims for it at some point, but it 5x108 so difficult to find a lot of styles for. Steelies can have some winters come hibernation time. Also did you notice the rockers are heavily coated in rocker guard. The 'S' doesn't have the trip computer or the armrest with the aux/usb hook ups in it.




Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:17 PM
I never drove the Koup, was the Forte5 actually, the bigger motor might be better but I didn't like the Forte5 and the seat hurt my back, to focus however..........



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 1:14 AM
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Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:44 AM
Loving the ST model!! That is everything a potential cruze ss should be - including six speed manual and 2.0 DI turbo!! Get the hint GM?? The competition is walking you in every way.



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:02 AM
DavefromEngland- When I said all-in the 23,995 price tag I was meaning every option in.lol So taxes not included. I did notice the heavily coated rockers too. The wheels were 17's and didn't look bad at all. Anyway for me it will be just a grocery getter to put a child seat in back.

As for the Focus ST I'll be surprised to see this in North America because they keep all the good stuff in Europe.

Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:29 AM
Really liking the hatch model.



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 9:43 AM
If any one wants to read more on the ST version:
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=6&i=221417&t=221417#221417

I should put that info on this thread, instead of making a new one. lol



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Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:54 AM
MyKoup_owns_theZ wrote:DavefromEngland- When I said all-in the 23,995 price tag I was meaning every option in.lol So taxes not included. I did notice the heavily coated rockers too. The wheels were 17's and didn't look bad at all. Anyway for me it will be just a grocery getter to put a child seat in back.

As for the Focus ST I'll be surprised to see this in North America because they keep all the good stuff in Europe.


that's a lot, that not an SEL? I wasn't too worried about a lot of the options, particularly sync as it fails to understand my English accent.



Re: 2012 Ford Focus
Sunday, April 24, 2011 11:15 AM
i do like the active grill vents that close automatically to increase the aerodynamic efficiency.
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