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2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Monday, January 10, 2011 9:06 PM
Although Honda calls it a concept, but you're basically looking at the next Civic, minus a few trim pieces.









From Honda...

The Honda Civic Si Concept coupe and Civic Concept sedan are making world debuts at the North American International Auto Show today, providing the first official glimpse at the styling direction of the all-new, ninth-generation 2012 model set to go on sale this spring, the company announced.

"The Civic is known for providing a balance of 'just-right' packaging, fun-to-drive character and outstanding fuel economy, at a price that even first-time buyers can afford," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda. "The redesigned Civic builds on this legacy and promises to be the best Civic yet."

The 2012 Civic embraces the company's vision as a "Civic for all people," a phrase originally expressed in defining the goal of the first-generation Civic. With the widest array of engine choices available in its class, the 2012 Civic lineup intends to meet the needs of an increasing group of compact-vehicle buyers with a renewed vision of a "Civic for all people." The diverse vehicle range includes a sedan and a coupe with conventional gasoline models, two sporty "Si" performance versions, along with one hybrid and a natural gas alternative-fuel variant. Collectively the depth of the Civic line offers a compelling balance between fuel economy, low emissions and fun-to-drive performance unlike any other vehicle in the industry.

As a new interpretation of the current Civic's iconic "one-motion" mono-form shape, the upcoming, ninth-generation Civic conveys a more substantial, high-energy appearance. The exterior styling of both Civic concept models showcases the sedan's and coupe's clean-yet-powerful lines with steeply raked windshields, wide stances and pronounced character lines along the profile. The lower character line on both models broadens toward the rear fenders to enhance the dynamic feeling of forward energy. The front fender surface treatments form a complex, three-dimensional look to further enhance the image of sophistication and structural depth against the deeply set headlights.

The Civic Concept sedan takes on a sophisticated presence with a front grille defined by crisp lines and a solid bar that integrates a chrome Honda emblem. The look of the Civic Si Concept coupe conveys an aggressive demeanor with a more angular front fascia, mesh grille and a tapered rear roofline that flows smoothly into the trunk. The Civic Si Concept coupe is exclusively equipped with a rear air diffuser, a center-mounted exhaust outlet and a rear deck lid spoiler with dual vents. Each concept model has 19-inch machined alloy wheels.

Powertrain Technology
The Civic's family of engines with "intelligent" Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (i-VTEC®) technology become even more fuel efficient for 2012. The upcoming Civic Hybrid offers the latest generation of the compact and lightweight Integrated Motor Assist™ (IMA™) gasoline-electric hybrid system and features the first application of a lithium-ion battery in a Honda hybrid.

Building on its emphasis on fuel-economy, most upcoming Civic models receive Honda Eco Assist™ technology, already available in the CR-Z and Insight hybrids. The 2012 Civic is the first U.S. Honda model to employ Eco Assist technology in a gasoline-only powered vehicle. Eco Assist is just one example of how the new Civic can be customized and configured by the drivers to suit individual preferences.

Additionally, Honda is expanding retail sales of the natural gas-powered Civic GX model, which is the only OEM-built, dedicated CNG passenger car assembled in America. The increased availability of the Civic GX helps bring inherently clean-burning natural gas technology to an even broader audience while also supporting diversity in transportation energy resources.

Safety
The 2012 Civic continues to emphasize safety and is anticipated to score well in both the federal government's New Car Assessment Program1 (NCAP) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety2 (IIHS) vehicle evaluations. The 2001 Honda Civic Coupe was one of the first two passenger cars ever to earn the federal government's top 5-star crash safety rating3 for the driver and front- and rear-seat passengers in both frontal and side-impact crash tests.

All 2012 Civics are equipped with Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) as standard equipment. Additionally, the ninth-generation Civic continues to provide Honda's exclusive and innovative Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure for frontal collision energy management.

Accolades and Manufacturing
As a top-selling model for Honda, the current, eighth-generation Civic has sold more than 1.5 million units since the 2006 model went on sale in late 2005. The 2006 Civic earned both the prestigious Motor Trend "Car of the Year" and the North American Car of the Year awards.

The current-generation Civic continues to be a significant entry-point to the Honda brand for younger buyers, introducing on average more than 90,000 new-car customers under the age of 35 to the brand every year. More than 95 percent of all Civics sold in the U.S. as of calendar-year 2010 were made4 in North America at manufacturing facilities in either Greensburg, Indiana or Alliston, Ontario in Canada.




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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Monday, January 10, 2011 9:29 PM
do like the single exhaust on the Si, but hate the rest of the car.



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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Monday, January 10, 2011 9:45 PM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:do like the single exhaust on the Si, but hate the rest of the car.




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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Monday, January 10, 2011 9:59 PM
reminds me of an alittle older accord coupe.

the 4 door isn't bad for an econobox.



Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Monday, January 10, 2011 10:40 PM
WAY too many lines on the Si. Especially that rear bumper.
The whole kit just seems excessively aggressive.

The lower trim looks good... very sharp and modern.
Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:18 AM
There's something funny about the way it sits. I like the Si EXCEPT that lower grille. The one on the sedan (and what will presumably be on the base/DX/EX coupes) looks better. If you combined that with the lower lip on the Si, it would be perfect. I also think I like the current Si wheels better. All in all, I still like it.


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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:10 AM
They will get the 19" rollers on the Si?? Damn!
Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:09 AM
Honda is now taking styling hints from Kia? the sedan resembles a forte to me. I'm curious how much this thing weighs now - what are they up to like 3200 lbs? Cars in this segement NEED TO GO ON A DIET. We have all this cool engine tech but much like america's youth they need to put down the french fries and hit the gym.



Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:14 AM
What happened to the other civic? The one that had the pics posted a couple months ago? Either way, that one was hideous, this one is gorgeous. I would replace my 06 sedan in a heartbeat with this one if it looked exaclty like that.



Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:14 AM
oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:Honda is now taking styling hints from Kia? the sedan resembles a forte to me. I'm curious how much this thing weighs now - what are they up to like 3200 lbs? Cars in this segement NEED TO GO ON A DIET. We have all this cool engine tech but much like america's youth they need to put down the french fries and hit the gym.

Crash test safety standards aint what they used to be.




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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:34 AM
Whalesac wrote:
oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:Honda is now taking styling hints from Kia? the sedan resembles a forte to me. I'm curious how much this thing weighs now - what are they up to like 3200 lbs? Cars in this segement NEED TO GO ON A DIET. We have all this cool engine tech but much like america's youth they need to put down the french fries and hit the gym.

Crash test safety standards aint what they used to be.
I suppose. But look at a properly K-swapped EG for example. It doesn't take much for them to be legitimately fast, and with a pro tuning it you could get insane mileage out of them. This car, however is probably bigger/heavier than a 90's accord...

Take the honda fit for example - weighing in close to 3000 lbs, or my damn solstice weighing the same. I would pass on all the modern crap if they (not just honda) could put out a ~200hp four cyl that weighs less than 2500 lbs.

As far as this car is concerned, why do they need the big ass baller wheels? Stuff like that is just not necessary especially in this segment. Save me 30-40lbs of rotating mass and let the kids who want wheels get aftermarket - because they probably will anyways...




Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:55 AM
I still want a LS3 5th Gen Camaro in LS trim. No need for 20s, and all the other crap.




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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:00 AM
gtpsunfire wrote:What happened to the other civic? The one that had the pics posted a couple months ago? Either way, that one was hideous, this one is gorgeous. I would replace my 06 sedan in a heartbeat with this one if it looked exaclty like that.

You must be talking about this thread:
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=6&i=222291&t=222291#222291
Look closely, it is the same car, minus the flashy "Concept" trim parts.

oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:
Whalesac wrote:
oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:Honda is now taking styling hints from Kia? the sedan resembles a forte to me. I'm curious how much this thing weighs now - what are they up to like 3200 lbs? Cars in this segement NEED TO GO ON A DIET. We have all this cool engine tech but much like america's youth they need to put down the french fries and hit the gym.

Crash test safety standards aint what they used to be.
I suppose. But look at a properly K-swapped EG for example. It doesn't take much for them to be legitimately fast, and with a pro tuning it you could get insane mileage out of them. This car, however is probably bigger/heavier than a 90's accord...

Take the honda fit for example - weighing in close to 3000 lbs, or my damn solstice weighing the same. I would pass on all the modern crap if they (not just honda) could put out a ~200hp four cyl that weighs less than 2500 lbs.

As far as this car is concerned, why do they need the big ass baller wheels? Stuff like that is just not necessary especially in this segment. Save me 30-40lbs of rotating mass and let the kids who want wheels get aftermarket - because they probably will anyways...

Check Hyundai and Mazda, both usually drop weight when a new model comes out. The 2011 Elantra lost like 80lbs, it is at around 2650lbs and it is considered a mid-size by interior volume. Now that's engineering. We'll see what Honda pulls here, because Honda didn't want to go bigger on their Civic, so maybe the weight might be still the same.



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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:18 AM
Honda has taken a huge risk in the design of the next Civic. Honda has been playing the overly-conservative game for a long time now and it's now hitting them very hard in everything, from design, to styling, to fun, to powertrain. Everyone is coming up in the world, most notably GM/Ford/Hyundai/Kia and now they're behind.

With the next Civic, they took an approach of "it currently works, so don't change it much", so it's more like they were forced to change the model strictly to follow the 5-year product cycle that they've established for their cars. They even admitted that they felt the current exterior design was "modern enough" for today's times. That's a HUGE mistake with the great products that the aforementioned four companies are coming out with. The other mistake they've admitted to is that they made the next Civic bigger than the current gen. That would make it bigger than some of the Accords of a few years ago. Now as consumer demand has gone towards smaller, more efficient vehicles, they are getting a huge wake up call. Even the new CEO realized this and did an unprecedented move, but unfortunately it's too little too late for this model. You can't redesign a new car in 1 year, especially once you've already got the blinders on from what you just created.

My opinion for the future for the future rankings of the non-luxury full-line segment:
1) Ford (everything great right now)
2) Hyundai (same as Ford)
3) GM (doing well and moving back up)
4) Toyota (still big enough to come back)
5) VW (huge but not as big in the US)
6) Kia (kicking butt in the value per dollar)
7) Nissan (problems with overly-edgy design)
8) Honda (issues with old conservative stuff)
9) Mazda (still too small to make a huge difference)
10) Chrysler (needs a lot of help)



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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:27 AM
I thought concepts were supposed to look good.....



Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:36 AM
They are trying WAYYYYYY to hard to ape the body lines of the Accord Coupe in the new Civic 2-door. It just doesn't fit.



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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:42 PM
well i guess i know what i'm gonna con the girlfriend into buying now..



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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:35 PM
Eh...



Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:23 PM
This may very well be the first time ever in the Civic's long history that the 4-door looks much better than the 2-door.






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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:26 PM
While the sedan shares alot of the previous gen,windows hood looks close to the same,mirrors on door.I would like to see the interior being a family member has a 08 the interior is ok,but hope there not so plasticky if that is a good term.Idk I am looking to buy a new ride this yr myself and the civ was something I considered as one of my choices if all things fall in line money wise.



Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:08 AM
This is the interior of the new Civic









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Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:28 PM
the outside new design I like.......but the interior looks boring as usual on civics. It also looks bigger





Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:56 AM
Call me crazy but I think I like the sedan better. Maybe I'm just getting too old.







Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:49 AM
As previously stated, the new Civic Coupe looks WAY too much like the 2009 Accord Coupe. All in all, I like the sedan much better.




Re: 2012 Honda Civic (Concept)
Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:40 PM
Update from Honda...










02/17/2011 - TORRANCE, Calif.
Featuring the widest array of engine choices available in its class, the 2012 Civic is designed to even better meet the diverse needs of the compact-vehicle buyer when it launches this spring. The entire redesigned ninth-generation Civic lineup will become more fuel efficient with two models – the all-new Civic HF and the Civic Hybrid – each delivering fuel economy estimates of more than 40 mpg on the highway.

Built on the tradition of Honda fuel efficiency, the economical Civic HF model will be the most fuel-efficient gasoline-only powered Civic in the lineup when it launches this spring. Equipped with a 1.8-liter i-VTEC engine, the Civic HF is targeted to earn EPA-estimated fuel economy1 of 41 mpg on the highway. The 2012 Civic Hybrid, which will be outfitted for the first time with a lithium-ion battery and a larger 1.5-liter i-VTEC engine, is expected to achieve an EPA-estimated city/highway combined fuel economy1 of 45 mpg, an improvement of 4 mpg compared to the current Civic Hybrid. Both the Civic HF and Civic Hybrid models will be equipped with aerodynamic components for improved efficiency and Honda ECO Assist™ technology, an innovation that can enhance efficient vehicle operation while providing feedback to promote more efficient individual driving styles.

"The Civic is the only model in the industry that can deliver on all fronts – fuel economy, sporty performance, smart packaging, alternative fuel and long-term value," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda Motor Co.,Inc. "For the ninth-generation Civic, we are emphasizing improved fuel economy across the board, from the hybrid sedan to the sporty Si model."
In addition to the Civic HF and Civic Hybrid models, the Civic Sedan, Civic Coupe and Civic GX Natural Gas models are also estimated to achieve improved fuel economy compared to the current models. The Civic Sedan and Civic Coupe achieve an EPA-estimated fuel economy2 of 39 mpg on the highway, an improvement of 3 mpg when compared to the current model. The Civic Natural Gas vehicle is anticipated to earn a 7 percent improvement in fuel economy compared to the current model. The Civic Sedan, Civic Coupe and Civic Natural Gas models will all be equipped with the Honda ECO Assist technology.

Along with improved fuel economy, the new Civic lineup also delivers more performance, particularly with the Civic Si. The Civic Si sedan and coupe models will be equipped with a larger, more powerful 2.4-liter engine as well as a new 6-speed manual transmission. The new engine is anticipated to deliver 200 horsepower with 170 ft-lb of torque. Even with the larger engine and a 22 percent increase in torque, Civic Si is targeted to achieve an EPA-estimated highway fuel economy of 31 mpg; an increase of 2 mpg when compared to the current model.

The 2012 Civic lineup includes a sedan and a coupe with conventional gasoline models, a new "HF" high fuel economy version, two sporty "Si" performance versions, along with one hybrid and a natural gas alternative-fuel variant.
Additional information on the new 2012 Civic will be announced closer to the on-sale date.

Civic HF, Sedan, Coupe and Natural Gas Specifications
•140 horsepower, 1.8-liter i-VTEC™ 4-cylinder engine
•5-speed automatic transmission
•ECO Assist technology
•EPA-estimated Civic HF highway fuel economy: 41 mpg
•EPA-estimated Civic Sedan and Civic Coupe highway fuel economy: 39 mpg

Civic Hybrid Specifications
•110 horsepower, 1.5-liter i-VTEC™ 4-cylinder engine (combined gasoline + electric)
•Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT)
•Lithium-ion battery
•ECO Assist technology
•EPA-estimated Civic Hybrid city/highway combined fuel economy: 45 mpgCivic

Si Specifications
•200 horsepower and 170 lb-ft, 2.4-liter i-VTEC™ 4-cylinder engine
•6-speed manual transmission
•EPA-estimated Civic Si highway fuel economy: 31 mpg

1Preliminary EPA mileage estimates determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates not available at the time of printing. Use for comparison purposes only. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle.
2Based on 2012 EPA mileage estimates. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle




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