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Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:54 AM
From Chrysler... .
Chrysler Group LLC Completes Refinancing and Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full

-More than six years ahead of schedule, Chrysler Group fulfills promise to taxpayers and repays original government loans totaling $6.7 billion, in addition to $1.8 billion of interest and other consideration
-Intervention by U.S. and Canadian governments and strategic alliance with Fiat leads to 16 all-new or significantly refreshed vehicles currently in dealerships; more than $3 billion in facility upgrades; and increased employment with the hiring of 6,000 Chrysler Group employees
-Company’s return to profitability and double-digit worldwide sales increases show new product lineup gaining momentum in marketplace

May 24, 2011 , Auburn Hills, Mich. -
Chrysler Group LLC today announced the repayment of $7.6 billion in outstanding U.S. and Canadian government loans following the completion of new refinancing transactions. The original loans were repaid in full, more than six years ahead of schedule, along with the payment of accrued interest and additional consideration.

Today, the Company made payments of $5.9 billion to the U.S. Treasury (UST) and $1.7 billion to Export Development Canada (EDC) to retire the loans granted when Chrysler Group began operations in June 2009. EDC is the holding company through which the Canadian federal and Ontario provincial governments extended loans to Chrysler Group.

The Company borrowed $5.1 billion from the UST and $1.6 billion from the Canadian governments in June 2009 ($2.6 billion from the original loan facilities was undrawn and the facilities will be canceled). In total, Chrysler Group has paid the UST $6.5 billion and the EDC $2.0 billion, including $1.8 billion in interest and additional consideration.

“Less than two years ago, we made a commitment to repay the U.S. and Canadian taxpayers in full and today we made good on that promise,” said Sergio Marchionne, Chief Executive Officer, Chrysler Group LLC. “The loans gave us a rare second chance to demonstrate what the people of this Company can deliver and we owe a debt of gratitude to those whose intervention allowed Chrysler Group to re-establish itself as a strong and viable carmaker.

“Paying back the loans, along with the financial community’s investment in our refinancing packages, marks another step in the Company returning as a competitive force in the global automotive industry.”

Chrysler Group confirmed the completion of new financing transactions consisting of a term loan totaling $3.0 billion, debt securities totaling $3.2 billion and a revolving credit facility of $1.3 billion. The new financing will save Chrysler Group an estimated $350 million a year in interest expenses.

The Company used the net proceeds from the term loan and bonds, together with $1.3 billion from an equity call option exercised by Fiat for an incremental 16 percent fully diluted ownership interest, to repay the government loans. The revolving credit facility remains undrawn.

Chrysler Group continues to have more than $10 billion in liquidity after the refinancing and loan payoffs, which includes the undrawn revolving credit facility.

“Everyone in the extended Chrysler Group family, from employees to union partners to dealers and suppliers, have worked tirelessly to deliver on our promises and to win back public trust in the Company and our products," said Marchionne. "There is more work to be done as we remain focused on fulfilling the goals outlined in our 2010-2014 business plan.”

Goldman, Sachs Co. advised Chrysler Group on structuring the financings and Evercore Partners advised the Company's Finance Committee.



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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:57 AM
And the speech.
From Chrysler... .
--SERGIO MARCHIONNE, Repayment Day, Sterling Heights Assembly Plant:

May 24, 2011 , Sterling Heights, Mich.Thank you Ron for your remarks today, but more importantly for being here together with Brian Deese, to celebrate this moment.

I can tell you, having spent a lot of time in Washington in 2009, especially with Ron, that there were no stronger advocates for the survival of Chrysler than Brian and Ron.

They took on a number of skeptics who saw another fate for Chrysler, and we are very fortunate that their views prevailed.

And good afternoon to all of you - dear colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, elected officials and honored guests.
Thank you for being with us on this important day.

June 10th, 2009, barely two years ago but what now appears to be a distant past, represented a new beginning for all of us:
- for me, who had just arrived at Chrysler, to begin the turnaround;
- for you, who had all been through several trying months and even years, full of trepidation and uncertainty;
- and, for the Chrysler organization as a whole, a Chrysler that had just emerged from bankruptcy and one of the darkest periods in its history.

And even though we knew little about each other then, we all hoped that somehow we would rebuild this company and restore it to its rightful place.

We were united by the same passion – the kind of passion that only great projects can inspire.

It was a day of celebration because, after months of uncertainty, we finally knew we had a chance to build a future.

We were encouraged by the fact that someone believed in us and from that moment forward we were able to take our destiny back into our own hands.

That joy was conditioned by the sense of responsibility we all shared.

Not just for the privilege we had been given of helping get an American icon back on its feet, but more importantly for our moral obligation to justify the support that American and Canadian taxpayers had given us.

We knew we had to live up to the expectations of those who had made sacrifices on our behalf.

On that day, we made a promise to our fellow citizens, in both the U.S. and Canada, that we would succeed, that we would repay their trust.

The promise was not only to them, it was first of all to ourselves.

I am pleased to announce that, significantly in advance of the initial plan and little more than 23 months from that momentous day, we fulfilled our promise.

We received confirmation this morning at 10.13 am from Citigroup that Chrysler Group repaid, with interest, by wire transfer to the United States Treasury and by bank transfer to the Canadian government, every penny that had been loaned less than two years ago.

It happens rarely in life that we are given a second chance.

We are fully aware that those credit facilities gave us such a chance, enabling us to begin the important work that needed to be done.

We are still very grateful:
- to President Obama and his Administration;
- to the Automotive Task Force;
- to the U.S., Canadian and Ontario governments and taxpayers;
- to our unions, who have partnered with us in this recovery;
- to Fiat for its engagement as an alliance partner, and for its equity investment in Chrysler;
- and for what were, in many cases, huge sacrifices made by many of our stakeholders.

I received a phone call this morning from Vice President Biden congratulating Chrysler on having achieved this significant milestone, and I had the opportunity to once again thank him and President Obama’s administration for the faith they placed in us two years ago.

On this day, I want to take the opportunity to publicly thank the leadership team here at Chrysler, the 25 people with whom I have had the privilege of working closely for the last 23 months in getting us this far. Without them, we would not be here.

Please stand up and be recognized.

In particular, this day would not have been possible without the tireless efforts and dedication of two individuals on our leadership team, Holly Leese, our General Counsel and Richard Palmer, our Chief Financial Officer. We owe them a tremendous debt of gratitude for their selfless dedication to Chrysler, and to this repayment project.

Every single day for these past two years, we have been conscious of the moral responsibility we have to all of those individuals and organizations and we have put our all into demonstrating that their sacrifice and investment was worthwhile.

I remember how analysts and the press reacted when we announced that within a very short period of time we would fully renew our product range and get our financials back into shape.

I remember the skeptical and patronizing looks on their faces.

Looks like the one you might give a child when he announces that he’s going to be an astronaut when he grows up.

Well – we did it!

We dared to dream big, and we delivered on that dream.

We have presented 16 all-new products in just 19 months.

We have begun to completely overhaul our production processes, introducing the highest quality standards in the world at all of our plants.

We have undertaken a profound transformation of our organization, introducing a new culture, based on meritocracy and accountability.

These principles have become a core part of our corporate philosophy.

A philosophy where merit prevails over whom you know.

Leadership over authority.

The pursuit of excellence over mediocrity.

The spirit of competition over ego-centricity.

And reliability over idle promises.

These values form part of who we are today and they need to be protected and preserved.

In the face of constant change, the sense of values we have, enables us to be resilient, to stay true to the important principles of life that have no borders: justice, integrity, honesty, and respect for others.

These values guide our everyday choices and remind us of the importance of making those choices with rigor and commitment, and with full awareness of the consequences that they can have.

They are also the best guarantee for our individual futures and the future of Chrysler.

It is these values and our hard work that have produced results.

We are achieving consistent, solid share gains in all of our markets.

We closed Q1 this year with the first positive bottom line result since the new Chrysler was born.

We are changing both the image and substance of our group and are regaining the faith of the public at large and, even more importantly, of our customers.

This impressive about-face prompted one commentator to say that we have gone from “third world to world class”.

We knew it would not be easy.

All of us remember that until just a short time ago, in the eyes of most, Chrysler had been condemned to death.

It wasn’t going to be easy to regain confidence from a world that had seemingly turned its back on us.

And for many of you, it was not easy to choose to stay here, when some of your co-workers, who thought they were working on the S.S. Titanic, chose to abandon ship even before the band had stopped playing.

But “easy” is not a label you can give to anything truly worth doing.

And building a new Chrysler definitely is something worth doing: for us, for our children, for everyone who has trusted us.

The past two years have also taught us a lot.

They have made us more conscious of our abilities and confident in ourselves.

They have taught us that the only difference between the possible and the impossible is that the impossible has never been done before.

This morning I wrote a letter to all Chrysler employees that you have probably received already and, if not, you shortly will.

Then I decided that I couldn’t stay in my office. Not today.

I felt the need to come here and meet you.

Today is one of those days you want to share with those who made it a reality.

That is why it was very important to me to come here and speak with you, to all of you, in person and with all your co-workers who are watching this from the other plants.

I wanted to thank you, each and everyone of you, for what you have done.

The “PAID” buttons we made are more than just a souvenir to mark today, more than simply an object that you pull out in 20 years’ time to say “I was there when Chrysler repaid its debt to the government”.

They are a reminder of what you are capable of achieving.

You have demonstrated that, if confronted with courage and tenacity, no obstacle is insurmountable.

You have demonstrated what can be achieved by the hard work and passion of tens of thousands of people who don’t give in when the going is tough, but rather who dig deep within themselves and find the strength to get back on their feet and move forward.

You have demonstrated the level of pride that exists within Chrysler, through your determination to restore it to its rightful place.

And, above all, you have demonstrated your belief in yourselves and in each other.

That is what the button is about.

Not just repayment…but also faith in who we are and where we are going.

These moments are not just moments of celebration. They are also occasions to reflect on how we got here, and why.

As always happens in life, the hardest, the most difficult moments – when you feel lost and believe there is no longer hope – are also the most meaningful and most character-forming moments, moments that change you forever.

Those who survive, who find the strength and courage to stand and fight, will never be as before.

Survivors are different people, they are special people.

You and I, together with all our other colleagues at Chrysler, are survivors.

And especially you here at SHAP, a plant which in our original plans was slated for closure. A plant which is now looking forward to the introduction of new, state of the art platform which will guarantee it a future for a long time to come.

We have collectively found the strength to fight against the death sentence placed on our company from the very beginning.

We found within ourselves the courage to act and reverse our fate.

And now we are living, day by day, a new life based on what we have learned from that experience.

For that reason, we are special people.

Because we have learned to look at the future in a way different to others.

We have a level of awareness and understanding of the world that is different from anyone else’s, that is rare and precious.

We are capable of appreciating every single moment and every single thing in this new life that has been granted us.

And I urge you to never forget the experience we have been through, but rather to treasure it every day.

Being survivors has not only empowered us to pull out the best in ourselves, in our work and for the company, but it also has had an impact on our personal lives and, in the end, made us better people.

There is an untold story in what we are living.

One that in a sense is too early to tell, and that involves your personal transformation, the transformation of the leaders who have been involved in this revival of Chrysler’s fortunes, and of the people whose lives they hold in their hands.

There are dozens of similar and probably more valid and powerful examples out there: Lou Gerstner’s resurrection of IBM, Robert Oppenheimer’s experiences with the team that built the atomic bomb in the Manhattan project, Bill Clinton’s remarkable victory in the 1992 presidential race. But the common element with all of them is that they leave an indelible mark on the formation and growth of leaders.

They are changed forever.

We have changed forever, because we now know that ultimately, regardless of the circumstances, we have the power to refuse our consent.

We have an obligation to refuse our consent to decay, to disengage from competition, to industrial neglect, to the removal of wasteful activities, because ultimately, consenting to these things is a denial of our right to live and to our obligation to protect the welfare of our people.

The commercial that we aired during this year’s Super Bowl gave a good portrayal of what Chrysler has become today.

A company that has been to hell and back and yet still dares to dream.

A group of people free to venture beyond the ordinary and the expected, free from prejudices and the limitations of habit, free to express their creativity and even break the conventions of what a TV commercial should be.

That spot is homage to the culture of action and to our industrial roots.

It speaks about hard work and results achieved through resilience and tireless efforts.

About people that are not resigned to their destiny but redesign the future for themselves, day after day.

It is not simply a commercial.

It is the embodiment of our spirit.

It portrays our company and its aspirations.

It shows our passion for cars and our desire to create the best.

It embodies the values upon which the American dream was built.

In the end, it expresses the vision that we are making come to pass.

“Imported From Detroit” is a line that has resonated even with those who were not born and raised here, but who understand the grit and determination that underlie this spirit.

Today is a major milestone for Chrysler Group, but our work is by no means finished.

As Winston Churchill said, after the British won an important victory in World War II, “Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning”.

Repayment of the government loans closes an important chapter in our history, but we still have a great deal left to accomplish before regaining our rightful place in the automotive landscape.

Today we can also look forward to an extraordinary transformation that we will undertake together with our Fiat partner.

The alliance is moving forward rapidly and we are doing everything possible to accelerate the pace and bring about, in the shortest possible time, the birth of a single group, bringing even greater stability and strength to the relationship, in the interests of both partners.

An organization capable of fully leveraging each partner’s international capabilities.

An efficient and competitive global automaker, possessing advanced technological know-how and the determination to establish itself as a leader in the sector.

And, above all, a group that offers its employees a more certain future and a challenging environment, where cultural exchange and integration, together with a competitive spirit, provide the ideal conditions for their professional and personal growth.

As I wrote to you this morning, “painters know that every painting, even the greatest masterpieces, begin with splashes of colors on a canvas. They know that giving life to a piece of art is much more a question of inspiration, passion and vision, than just technical skill”.

Chrysler is still in its infancy. Most of the paint is still on the palette and we have to put every effort now in order to complete this momentous integration, with humility, determination and rigor.

But I am confident about our future because we are moving forward with clarity of purpose and we share the same vision and aspiration as to what we would like our company to become.

Not the biggest, just the best.

I am confident because I know that, when all is said and done, an enterprise is nothing more than a collection of the will and aspirations of the people that work in it.

You are creating a Chrysler that you want to be part of -- and the bricks and mortar of that new edifice we call Chrysler are your values, your courage and your passion.

I like what I see.

I am proud to be part of this group, to share in the work and vision that are giving life to this canvas.

Thank you again for what you are doing and for who you are.

And I wish all of us, Godspeed.



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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:04 AM
Good job Chrysler, Although i dont Care for your cars.... Reading Fix


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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:09 AM
you could read that whole speech but the people he thanked first are quite interesting. imho they should have been allowed to go into bankrupcy so they could restructure and renegotiate the uaw. instead the company was given to the uaw at the cost of the people who invested in the company themselves...



Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:29 AM
((Turba))KbRedBalt wrote:Good job GM! Its all because i bought this used SS from them a couple of weeks ago, this would have never happened without me...I hope they realize this....


so you bought an ss cobalt from chrysler.

aren't they a little different than General Motors.



Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:33 AM
It must have been me buy that new RAM.





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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:46 AM
Reading Fail.....



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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:14 PM
big time



Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:12 PM
half assed selective reading much? Chrysler is th FIRST word in the title, dude.....


Anyway, that's cool to see them pay it back so soon. Hopefully all 3 of "the big 3" start turning things around. They have all seemed to be putting out good cars lately, and selling decently from what I see.


On the other hand....you have other fingers.

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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:49 PM
UAW? Because top level management sector decided on the highest quality products that graced world roads? But it was the UAW that made for lackluster sales, nobody else. Retrograde-rule-of-thumb: always go after the dead twigs and leaves, never go for the roots.



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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:46 PM
Damn. I was really hoping Chrysler would fall. Oh well. At least I can buy a Fiat 500 now.


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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:08 AM
well hopefully they are making better cars since i just bought one lol.

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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:50 AM
Well you DO realize Chrysler didn't pay back anything. They technically only paid this by taking out a collection of loans from various investment banks and another HUGE government check to Fiat. It's a good PR spin, it worked for GM when they did the same thing. But it's not true, We paid to bail them out and, we paid them to payback that debt again. Which means we bailed out Chrysler twice.

Washington Post Article About how Chrysler scammed a double bailout on our dime, and then get to smugly brag that they paid us back.
For the lazy:
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The truth behind Chrysler’s fake auto bailout pay back
By: Conn Carroll 05/24/11 4:26 PM
Senior Editorial Writer Follow Him @conncarroll

It is not every day that the White House and Democratic National Committee celebrate a supposedly private company’s debt restructuring plan, but such is the marriage of big government and big business under the Obama administration. The New York Times reports: “Chrysler said Tuesday that it had paid back $7.6 billion in loans from the American and Canadian governments, marking another significant step in the revival of the company, the smallest of the Detroit automakers.”

But as The Truth About Cars reports, the loan pay back is just another Obama con job:

Back in November of 2009, when GM announced that it would repay its government loans, it didn’t take much investigation to realize that The General was simply shuffling government money from one pocket to the other and that true “payback” was still a ways off. … And now that our government finds itself “contemplating a runaway deficit and getting rid of its 8 percent of Chrysler’s equity,” would you believe that a similar federal money-shuffle is under way? Believe it.

American taxpayers have already spent more than $13 billion bailing out Chrysler. The Obama administration already forgave more than $4 billion of that debt when the company filed for bankruptcy in 2009. Taxpayers are never getting that money back. But how is Chrysler now paying off the rest of the $7.6 billion they owe the Treasury Department?

The Obama administration’s bailout agreement with Fiat gave the Italian car company a “Incremental Call Option” that allows it to buy up to 16% of Chrysler stock at a reduced price. But in order to exercise the option, Fiat had to first pay back at least $3.5 billion of its loan to the Treasury Department. But Fiat was having trouble getting private banks to lend it the money. Enter Obama Energy Secretary Steven Chu who has signaled that he will approve a fuel-efficient vehicle loan to Chrysler for … wait for it … $3.5 billion. TTAC comments:

Now, technically the DOE loan program is supposed to be used for specific, qualifying retooling projects, so Fiat can’t literally take the DOE money and use it to pay back the government loans. But freeing up $3.5b in capital that would otherwise be spent on retooling with low-cost loans will make it infinitely easier for Chrysler to secure the $3.5b in debt refinancing it needs. And, in light of the GAO’s pointed criticisms of the DOE loan program’s fairness and transparency, it’s hard to overlook the coincidental nature of Chrysler’s need for $3.5b and the government’s allocation of extra funds to apparently guarantee a low cost loan to Chrysler for precisely the same amount. After all, we’ve seen this movie before..

So, to recap, the Obama Energy Department is loaning a foreign car company $3.5 billion so that it can pay the Treasury Department $7.6 billion even though American taxpayers spent $13 billion to save an American car company that is currently only worth $5 billion.

Oh, and Obama plans to make this “success” a centerpiece of his 2012 campaign.


Our government is going to be broke by the end of summer and they just keep spending money on lost causes. If Chrysler was not strong enough to survive it should have died...that's how failure is rewarded, not with a safety net from the government. Or in this case many safety nets. If Fiat couldn't get it done without help then it should not be our problem we already did our part with the first bailout.




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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:33 PM
Jookycola wrote: Our government is going to be broke by the end of summer....

Define "broke". We've already raised the debt ceiling and the country is over $14 trillion in debt...if that's not broke, I don't know what is.




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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:59 PM
ok, you're right....dude, we ARE broke. wow, that's a ton of money.



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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:33 PM
Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Friday, May 27, 2011 4:48 AM
true we have always carried debt but there comes a point where debt gets out of hand and the dollare is worth zilch.

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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Saturday, May 28, 2011 1:22 PM
^Fact too. Between low interest rates and debt that introduced us in the trillions back in the 80s (which BTW was record jump by a leader--ever), in short order, made for a nice sizable inflation as well.
Agree or not, at least the tax money went back home and possibly saved the company too, you can thank in part from the poor & careless mis-management left by Mercedes Benz.



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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Saturday, May 28, 2011 1:51 PM
Just let chrysler die already.. I had to laugh. earlier today I was pulling out of a fast food joint, and a new cherokee srt8 was beside me. He goes to leave the same time I do, and I hear this loud "clunk" sound coming from it. He floors it, and it won't move at all. I offered to call a tow for him, and he declined. I swear, chrysler/dodge/jeep can't build anything right, I would never own one.




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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Saturday, May 28, 2011 2:38 PM
lone_wolf wrote:Just let chrysler die already.. I had to laugh. earlier today I was pulling out of a fast food joint, and a new cherokee srt8 was beside me. He goes to leave the same time I do, and I hear this loud "clunk" sound coming from it. He floors it, and it won't move at all. I offered to call a tow for him, and he declined. I swear, chrysler/dodge/jeep can't build anything right, I would never own one.


While I'm not a fan of Chrysler, I think you might be a bit of an idiot here.
You ever think that maybe that owner beat his? Did something to it? Modded something on it and messed it up? I don't think you can say they, as a whole, still can't build anything right simply because you saw ONE of their products fail. You don't know the story behind that guys driving and maintenance habits.


On the other hand....you have other fingers.

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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:00 PM
lone_wolf wrote:I had to laugh. earlier today I was pulling out of a fast food joint, and a new cherokee srt8 was beside me.

Doubt it was new because the 'New' one isn't out yet. 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
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2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 goes on sale in the fall.


What do you expect JL, In lonewolf's narrow view nobody can build a car right except for honda.









Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:21 PM
On thus subject there was new SRT8 here in town, you'd never known with the badging but the exhaust, brakes, and manufacturer plate gave it away to me.




Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:15 AM
Spike J wrote:
lone_wolf wrote:I had to laugh. earlier today I was pulling out of a fast food joint, and a new cherokee srt8 was beside me.

Doubt it was new because the 'New' one isn't out yet. 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
Quote:

2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 goes on sale in the fall.


What do you expect JL, In lonewolf's narrow view nobody can build a car right except for honda.



you guys do know there are 2011's out. and you can buy them new.

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Re: Chrysler Repays U.S. and Canadian Government Loans in Full
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:43 AM
sndsgood wrote:
Spike J wrote:
lone_wolf wrote:I had to laugh. earlier today I was pulling out of a fast food joint, and a new cherokee srt8 was beside me.

Doubt it was new because the 'New' one isn't out yet. 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
Quote:

2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 goes on sale in the fall.


What do you expect JL, In lonewolf's narrow view nobody can build a car right except for honda.



you guys do know there are 2011's out. and you can buy them new.


2011 is the 1st year of the WK2, there is NO SRT8 for 2011. 2012 is the 1st year of the WK2 SRT8. you can order them now, dont come till the fall





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