Cavalier Thompson wrote:
looks good from what I can see but I'll have to see the whole car before I'm convinced.
At least it will finally kill that horrid Caliber. But its just a re-branded fiat (not that its bad) But eventually nothing Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep makes will be a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep it will be something spawned from a Fiat/Lancia/Alfa platform. The company isn't considered a domestic nor is it an American company anymore and that is sad. It's sad to me that the only way Chrysler could become competitive and better again was for it to become a foreign car maker. I think the cars they make will be better, better looking, better performing, better built...but they won't be real Chryslers, and Dodges, and that might just be a good thing for a change, but a failure of the American spirit.
Spike J wrote:
There's no way a Fiat can be rebranded as a Jeep Wrangler and/or Liberty or whatever the @!#$ it's replacement's name will be (hopefully Cherokee). Fiat has the small cars done right which is what Chrysler lacks and most likely be all that gets rebranded from Fiat. Fiat has taken Chrylser's lineup and rebranded them as Lancia's. Once again Chrysler really hasn't been an American Company since 1999 when Daimler/Benz took over and screwed mostly everything up. At least now they are in capable hands
As for the Dart, I'll wait till I see it to comment on it. Hope they do the name justice though.
What year did Daimler take over? Because i hate break it to you Chrysler built sh*t cars long before Benz stepped into the picture. I won't fault you they may have not improved anything....but they didn't screw anything up either. All Benz did is let Chrysler be Chrysler while they profited from it.
And uh about you thinking There is no way Fiat can rebrand a vehicle as a Jeep Liberty....Got some bad news for you:
The Jeep SUV will be built on a broader platform based on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta, a car built by Fiat
* 2014 Jeep Midsize SUV: This Fiat-based SUV will eventually replace the Jeep Liberty in 2013.
The new Jeep SUV will replace the Liberty for the 2013 model year and will be Chrysler's first vehicle to ride on a Fiat platform.
So yes Fiat CAN rebrand as well as develop it own Jeeps. The OWN Chrysler group, it's a fully owned brand of Fiat. They can do anything they want. Thank you, drive through.
Spike J wrote:
Gee it seems like we've done this debate before . No FREAKING @!#$ they were building junk cars before Daimler took over, Daimler made them worse by pilfering away with the great designers Chrysler had and replacing somewhat decent looking Neon & Stratus/Sebring with the Caliber and Avenger/Sebring.
As for the rebranded Fiat/Jeep we'll see how that does in offroad testing, you never know it might not pass muster and Jeep guys will have to come up with something different.
Jookycola wrote:But that's true. Chrysler was taking off in the 90s quite nicely. If you didn't like them then, or knew of a person that had an issue, then that's another thing. I will admit one thing pre-Daimler era... anything related with Mitsubishi, like their old 2.5L V6, 3.0L V6 found in the 90s Avenger, or the Eagle Talon was really an anchor for Chrysler. But just like Mercedes sells overpriced commuter crap, that philosophy was handed to Chrysler for the new millennium, albeit at bargain prices instead.
I hate when people try to make it sound like Daimler ruined Chrysler.
Did I miss it in the wall of text? FWD/AWD/RWD??? I'm going to assume, realistically, it will be FWD but damn, even to a non-purist like me it's just so wrong to pin the Dart name on a non-RWD car...