Yea, sorry guys. I seem to get better responses here on a J-body site in the Other Cars forum then I do on ef-honda and honda-tec.com that and I keep losing my password =/
Well my question is will a 1990 Civic DX 5-speed tranny bolt up to a D15B JDM motor. Thats the SOHC Vtec 130hp motor they used in the DX's in japan.
i don't know , i assume so since just about everything will.
But if you're going to import a JDM motor why not go bigger. a K series or b18
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Well because a K series motor like the K20 would be the only thing I'd put in. Thats gonna run me over 5 grand just for the motor/tranny. Not to mention all the modifications i'd have to do to the car. The b18 if you go cheap and go b18a will run about a grand for the swap plus i'll have more work to do for 10 more HP. The GSR and Type R motors are over priced. If the D15b motor bolts up to the stock tranny i'll get 10 less HP then a b18a which will put me at 130HP and the motor can be had for an easy 350. No modifications what so ever. Will drop right in.
I have a CD with tons of Honda info on it, but I can't find a JDM D15 on there. I see about 5 different variations of USDM D15, but no JDM. I would think it would, though.
I have a question about JDM engines, too. I want to swap a ZC into my '89 Civic DX hatch, and have read that it is a direct bolt in and that my DX tranny will bolt up as well. Is this true? Also, will the ZC header work and will I need different axles? Any other parts I'm forgetting?
Rob
Sold 2/2/05
they're only $350? thats less than the ZC for the same power
Rob
Sold 2/2/05
Red Assassin wrote:Yea, sorry guys. I seem to get better responses here on a J-body site in the Other Cars forum then I do on ef-honda and honda-tec.com that and I keep losing my password =/
Well my question is will a 1990 Civic DX 5-speed tranny bolt up to a D15B JDM motor. Thats the SOHC Vtec 130hp motor they used in the DX's in japan.
yes your DX tranny will bolt up to the d15b
ROBZ IL CAV wrote:I have a CD with tons of Honda info on it, but I can't find a JDM D15 on there. I see about 5 different variations of USDM D15, but no JDM. I would think it would, though.
I have a question about JDM engines, too. I want to swap a ZC into my '89 Civic DX hatch, and have read that it is a direct bolt in and that my DX tranny will bolt up as well. Is this true? Also, will the ZC header work and will I need different axles? Any other parts I'm forgetting?
Rob
and yes your dx tranny will not bolt up to the zc motor and 90-93 integra axles, 90-91 pr4 ECU, 90-91 distributor. Oh yeah and got motor mounts and shift linkage
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I found this out about the D15B JDM:
"We have a Honda Civic 1.5 D15B low mileage (30-40 thousand) engine imported from Japan. It is a direct replacement for 88-91 Civics' fitted with the 1.5 D15B engine, and is similar to the engine in the picture below. This is dual carbureted and will work if you have throttle body fuel injection. Just swap over the accessory parts from your engine. It has been compression tested and comes with a 6 month, unlimited mileage warranty."
Rob
Sold 2/2/05
learn about what your talking about first..... because a GSR motor is a b18 and they come stock with 180 hp not 140. and the D15 is a SOHC and the B18 is DOHC. so they are nothing a like. dont feed us some bull@!#$
well now....you are talking about K20 swaps...good god son...that's good and all but way too much...if youy wanted something more feasable but more than the b18...go with the H22....and it's much less than a K swap. Why would you want the d15...it's like modding your 2200 when you could just spend a little extra and do an Eco swap..see just tink of the reasoning.
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learn about what your talking about first..... because a GSR motor is a b18 and they come stock with 180 hp not 140. and the D15 is a SOHC and the B18 is DOHC. so they are nothing a like. dont feed us some bull@!#$
hey newb. not all b18's are gsr engines.
b18a 90-93 integra 130hp
b18b 94+ integra 142hp
b17a 92-93 integra gsr 160hp
b18c 94+integra gsr 172hp
b18c5 integra type r-195hp
there are different d15's.. the dx was a dual point injection engine. the d15vtec is the jdm version of our d16 vtec. roughly 125-127hp.
the zc is a dohc 1.6 out of the 87-89 integras. it has 130hp. it a direct swap into a crx si. with the dx, u need to change from dual point to multi point inection. my buddy had a 89 hf crx with a zc. the zc is pretty much a d16, but with dohc instead of sohc
with honda engines. B=dohc.. D=sohc. all D stuff is interchangeable. d16, d15. same goes with all B series stuff. YOU CANT MIX D SERIES WITH B SERIES. it wont work.
so to answer the origonal questoin. yes the dx tranny will bolt to the jdm d15 vtec, but its obd1 where the crx is obd 0. plus its dual point injectoin where as all other honda engines are multi point.
now for the zc questoin.. i am not 100% cuz my friend is working on his 89 crx si with the stock engine. he has a turbo on it and was tryign to use the dx tranny cuz it has longer gears. the imput shaft is different. his si clutch wouldnt work. it has 21 splines where as the dx had 20. or the other way around... i dont konw what the zc tranny has...
iv rode in a few b16 crx's. one with a 50 shot. a b18 crx. a stock sohc with a 50 shot. and one with a min me swap (sohc vtec head on the non vtec sohc block)
besides the one with nitrous, i think the b18 was the quickest. torque makes a big difference in that light of a car.
Jonathan Parker wrote:learn about what your talking about first..... because a GSR motor is a b18 and they come stock with 180 hp not 140. and the D15 is a SOHC and the B18 is DOHC. so they are nothing a like. dont feed us some bull@!#$
Go blow me you retard. You dont know what the hell you are talking about. The b18b is what I was referring to. In fact I even stated the non-vtec would only leaves 2 motors moron. Neither of which are a GSR motor. just like John stated its 142HP which IS compareable to a d15b that is 130hp. Why dont you try and learn what you are talking about instead of spitting out bull @!#$ thinking you know what they hell you are talking about.
Squeeky, I was never thinking of a K20 swap. Thats what someone above told me I should do. I stated the same thing you did its just too expensive.
As far as modding the D15b motor...its pretty much the same thing as the D16y8 USDM motor used in the Civic EX. Its SOHC Vtec and parts are everywhere. I dont need a ton of performance. I should need some bolt ons on a decent motor and i'll be happy. Its not like the car weights much. People are doing the zc DOHC motor swaps all the time, yet the D15b motor is what replaced the zc motor. They replaced it for a reason.
Well heres what I really want to do. I probably outta just hold out for this.
http://www.japanstarmotor.com/b18b_1.html
Its a B18B1. 1.8L DOHC non-vtec motor. The thing I like about that is its found in Integras which I can grab parts that I may need during a swap from the junk yard. Plus like already stated the torque is nice. Plus you can do a head swap and make it ls/vtec which from what I hear is crazy good. So we'll just see what happens. I gotta make sure the car is mine first. They are suppose to hold it until Sunday but we'll see how that goes.
So a D15B will swap directly into an '89 DX? I wouldn't need axles or any other random parts? I'm not lookin to go fast here. I have the car in my sig for that. I just want to replace the dead stock motor with something that's not too expensive, has fairly low miles, and is easy to swap in. I wouldn't care if it had 100hp, since stock it only had 92hp and did just fine. Anything over 100hp would just be a bonus.
So basically, whatever is the cheapest, easiest JDM (or USDM) swap is the one for me right now.
Rob
Sold 2/2/05
Rob, yes that is correct. There is a few small modifications you need to do (very cheap and really easy). Like making it so V-Tec will work etc...
Sounds to me like you want to do a mini-me build up. This is a ls/vtec for the D-Series family. You take a D15 or D16 block and put a Z6 or Y8 head on there. The Z6 head comes off the 92-95 Si's and the Y8 comes off the new ex SOHC Vtec motor.
The usual, normal guy, good running mini-me consists of:
D16 or D15 block
Z6 head
Y8 intake manifold
B18A throttle body (2mm bigger than the Z6 and Y8 manis and 3mm larger than the A6 one)
PM6 and RPM switch (PS9 1 wire vtec is made for the D vtec swaps and is sooooooooooo much better than any rpm switch)
Here are some mini-me links:
http://crx.honda-perf.org/articles/z6swap/z6swap.html <---excellent how to
http://www.geocities.com/chipman_13/mini-me-parts.html
http://www.geocities.com/c_rexboy/minime.html
