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this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opinions
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:40 PM
Ok this spring 3 of my good buddies are gonna duke it out, who would you put your money on?

95 Talon TSi vs. 02 Trans Am Ram Air vs. 03 GSX-R 1000

the talon ran a 10.3 untuned on his new setup at the end of last year, it has since been dyno tuned, none street legal drag car

the T/A ran 10.2 blowing the trans towards the end of the run, since its been replaced with another built trans and dyno tuned as well

the GSX-R 1000 has intake and exhaust, and a few minor things, hasn't been to the track since moding it but is hoping for around 10 flat, and hes been riding for years and he can definetly drive


I can't wait to see this, they were gonna run at the track but then the bike wanted to join in the fun, they haven't decieded how they are gonna do it, the way it looks right now they are each gonna take best run out of 3 and compare times... or go from a 40 mph highway roll

so again who would you put your money on?




Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:43 PM
I'm going with the GSX-R. Nothing against the Talon or the T/A, I think they'll be pretty close. I just think the bike's gonna win it.


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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:44 PM
gixxer



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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:45 PM
ok from a stop im going with talon cause its a dsm i used to own one but from a roll gixxer all the way



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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:46 PM
...i've never seen a 3 lane racetrack

T/A



Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:50 PM
TA Baby F u ck the bike. and the dsm


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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:53 PM
your probably right



caviefreak: Ya know what I like about winter. Ya can get a bunch of beer out of the fridge and put it in the window sill so ya dont have to make as many trips out to the fridge
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:54 PM
Lukes Cavy....

Oh wait....

Depends on who has what for traction I think.

But, not judging off traction, I would say the GSX-R.



Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 3:52 AM
def the bike


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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 4:36 AM
With the pipe and a good rider the Bike should cross the line in about 9.5s.

It's gonna be a driver's race. Bikes are harder to drag and can lose time in a big way due to traction issues. Between the cars, again, it'll be all traction, if the DSM is AWD then it'll get the hole shot, the question will be HP in the last eigth.. The TA will be playing catch-up a bit, but if they have the ponies, they will have the trap speed advantage and may win the race.

The bike should win, doesn't mean it will.


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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 7:48 AM
the 2.2 ohv has it in the bag!

Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 9:20 AM
Quote:

the talon ran a 10.3 untuned on his new setup at the end of last year, it has since been dyno tuned,

Quote:

the T/A ran 10.2 blowing the trans towards the end of the run, since its been replaced with another built trans and dyno tuned as well


AWD makes no difference here!! with the AWD the talon ran 10.3, knock that number down some to make up for tuning, 10.2 for the T/A with broke tranny, take that down some for a built tranny + a few tweeks here n there. both of theese factors taken into effect= ONE HELL OF A RACE




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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 11:20 AM
I want vid when it happens.


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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 1:13 PM
On the street , Talon
On the strip w/ slicks, T/A
From a roll, gixxer
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 2:38 PM
It reminds me of the turbochargers.com talon going at it with a 422 mti ta with a 150 shot.The talon was running on treaded street tires.The reason was the talon had broken its 700hp drive shaft at the strip so it needed some tires with some slip.The TA was running slicks they prepped the street with vht and even heated it with a torch.Off the line the talon and the TA were dead even with the talon pulling the TA top end.Now this MTI car was fast but the talon was a 9 sec car with a 150 plus trap.If you want to see the race go to turbochargers.com I think the race might still be on the the web site.Did any one else see it happened about 2 yrs ago.The f body guys were up in arms over this
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 3:57 PM
the Talon is FWD not all wheel drive, both the T/A and Talon will be on slicks



Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 4:04 PM
Oh well why didnt you say so.........$500 on the Talon.... think about it guys ... from a stop the FWD talon is running the same ET as the RWD T/A, Now we all know that RWD (including bikes) are at a disadvantage when racing from a hwy roll vs a FWD. I bet the talon has the highest Trap speed also. That should answer your question right there.


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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 4:37 PM
Holy Christ the talon is FWD?

95% of the guys that run 11's and under seem to be AWD on street tires so seeing a FWD 2g that fast is different. I know there is some FWD 1g's in the 9's but I think thats the fastest FWD 2g I've heard of not counting full out tube frame drag cars.
How much hp is he making seeing as the other FWDers I see running those times are in the 650-700+ range.
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 4:48 PM
He has to have done some serious suspension work as we have a local FWDer with 730 hp + and he only runs a 11.4 at some ridiculous trap speed. It takes some serious tricks with a FWD cars suspension to be able to hook up. Throwing on slicks is just a minor part, whats his secrets??
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 5:09 PM
03 GSX-R 1000




Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 5:14 PM
he has a huge turbo it doesn't really start making power till alittle over 5K rpm, the revlimiter is programed in at 8700 rpm I think, so turbo lag off the line helps with traction, he runs a full custom suspension (much like Karo's) on slicks and the biggest thing is the wheelie bars I'd guess you call them, for track use he has a bars that setup like wheelie bars but instead of working like wheelie bars the actually push on the ground to make it so the car can't sqaut backwards and spin, keeps the weight on the front wheels, the controls arms ect.. have been modified, alot of work to it. Th ecar is very impressive considering he did it himself, like literally, he bought an intercooler core, made his own end tanks and piping, made the intake manifold, made the exhaust manifold, made the down pipe and exhaust, made the roll cage, made the housing for the fuel cell, the seat brackets, a few custom pieces indie the car that house gauges, he built the engine himself with the exception of having the block machined, he did all the tuning and wiring (including making an oversized ford Mass air flow and chrysler 300M coil over plug ingnition work with the AEM stand alone)


the T/A, he pays for everything, he installed the intake and lid himself, and he puts his own slicks on hahahah

the bike, its just intake and exhaust, the other litle things ended up just being maintanace items




Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 5:43 PM
Well, I am a HUGE DSM fan (have had a couple, got one now), before that I loved F-bodies almost as much (used to own a 68 RS), and I also have much bike experience. The GSXR will be the one to beat, if the rider can ride.

This summer past, I was at the track with some of my riding freinds (bike club) and this guy with a tricked out Harley, wheelie bars and the bit, thundered past and ran a ripping loud 11.5. We booooed at him, and one of our group said, hell I can run faster than that on my street bike. Then he got up, payed the fee and rode his 03 R1 to a 10.2s When he came back to the group I asked him just how much track time he had, he said it was his second run ever! A perfect run on his bike should yeild a 9.6 or so, I was impressed. I knew he was a good street rider, but to pull that kind of time his second run ever.. I though that was somehting.

That said.. The GSXR is the one to beat. With the pipe and proper tuning (power commander required), he should be making about 170 HP with a sub 400lb vehicle.. It's hammer time.

My bike pulls hard out of the hole, then pulls harder.. It's incredible, makes my car look sick. My 1-2 shift happens at 75MPH (120Km/h) and I have to ease into the throttle so I don't wheelie.. I ride a 600..
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 6:43 PM
the suzuki





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Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 7:04 PM
Who is this guy with the talon dam thats fast for a fwd.I have seen hundreds of dsms running over the years .But only a handfull of fwd cars that i have seen laying down those numbers.I have been going to the shoot out for yrs I should know his name if not he must be flying under the radar.A fwd dsm running those times would have a totally crazy top end
Re: this spring Talon vs. T/A vs. GSX-R 1000, opin
Monday, February 21, 2005 7:50 PM
i got to give my love to the TA.


to be honest, its a drivers race, there all pretty even, it will all matter of whos running good that day or not.


-Borsty
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