ge_forcez22 wrote:^^ yah that sounds very true, if I wasn't concerned about my factory gauges, I would take the MS over this HPT (at this point) HpTuners is awesome and I have mine at home already, but my friends with there MS, can adjust everything. Have said that Hptuners is crazy fast with customer support and you can't put a price on that :cheers
MS has nothing to do with your factory gauges.... you simply piggyback the MS wiring off of the stock harness (except for the injectors/ignition coils, which the stock stuff gets disconnected from so the MS can assume complete control). Your stock guages will work perfectly fine unless you did something very very wrong.
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i knew it!.
i agree with john 100%. and to think of all the years i said this and everyone argued with me
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also, brian(spdrcrz) has the 02 ls sport computer info from when he messed with one of my cars with the HP tuners program.
hahaha.
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as far as TB's go you're better off going to a machine shop and having them cut you a new plate and porting it out, i had it quoted at being right around $100 for them to do it and then you'll know it 62mm and myself and Hypsy are proof that doing it that way works great
sorry to hear you got ripped off by them, i think its funny to i remember talking to them at the 05 bash about the TB and they said it couldnt be done by just porting that you'd have to put in a sleeve HAHAHAHAHA
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I always knew there reflash was garbage.When i got my ecu back from them,i raced a 300zx on the highway,and the speed limiter that they said they removed kicked in on me.I was pissed.Everything went down hill from there,and i never got my car to run a perfect a/f ratio.Im glad i sold my s/c kit.That is the only bad thing i can say about rsm.They had awsome customer support whenever i had a problem with the kit.As for there 62mm throttle body not measuring 62mm,i measured mine and it does measure 62mm.I can post the pics if you like.
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Someone should punch all the RSM technicians who do this in the nuts. That would make me feel better at least.
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also when you crank your MS for the first time. it will send a volt of electricity threw you and make you go crazy
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^^^In other words, its quite the shocking experience? I'm not really surprised about RSM.
Doesn't surprise me one bit. Too bad for everyone who put their hard earned money into this company only to get a reflash that did absolutely nothing. Never RSM.......never.
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Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote: MS has nothing to do with your factory gauges.... you simply piggyback the MS wiring off of the stock harness (except for the injectors/ignition coils, which the stock stuff gets disconnected from so the MS can assume complete control). Your stock guages will work perfectly fine unless you did something very very wrong.
MS uses a different, older, IDI system in order to work.
Incorrect IDI = no rpm signal for PCM.
No RPM@PCM = No RPM a cluster.
MS needs ECT. Resistance based sensors cannot be "piggybacked" by multiple PCMs. PCM loses ECT.
No ECT @ PCM= no coolant gauge at dash
VSS could be left alone, as could fuel level, so you could easily keep 2 of 4 gauges.
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Now we need to see a JBP one
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i am also curious about the JBP computer info.
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SweetnessGT wrote:protomec wrote:Now we need to see a JBP one
So much maturity.
Care to explain why his oil pump is a stock unit again?
-Chris-
What is immature about that?
It has been claimed that both RSM and JBP "use" the same product to do custom calibrations.
It is very reasonable to ask to see if the other claimed product is legitimate also.
We, now after all these years, have a way to do so.
If it is an actual recalibration, there is no reason whatsoever to be upset by the question.
How about these questions then...
Is your car flashed by JBP?
Are you going to be at the JCO bash next weekend?
Would you allow me to pull your cal to check it?
And yes, the JBP 2.4 oil pump is for all purposes very definitely a stock unit and will perform exactly as a stock pump in regards to the weaknesses of the stock pump. But that has nothing to do with this thread.
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Ooooh an update!!!!!
I just checked the JBP site.
The arguement that Sweetness brought up earlier was based on a claim that The JBP pump was thoroughly modified and could equal and/or outperform a 2.3 pump.
The claim was made the pump was specially built and modified by JBP to provide higher pressure and VOLUME.
My statement was and still is that they sell only a stock pump with a shimmed or replaced oil pressure relief spring to raise the release pressure. That operation will not increase volume.
From their site "Our oil pump is able to flow the volume of oil required to maintain the pressure desired. A relief spring within the pump relieves the pressure when it reaches the desired level. Our High pressure pumps have a higher pressure relief spring as also do most high volume pumps."
While he does allude to his pump bieng a higher volume unit by saying "as also do most high volume pumps." He never actually claims (in the information provided) to do anything specifically other than change the relief spring.
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but, again, that was off topic and not aiding this post at all.
I apologize for that.
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pressure is resistance to flow (volume), but that isn't the problem with the pump, the problem is it is too small and spins to quickly and aerates the oil.
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with out making a new pump or machining the pump to increase the volume , then all they are doing is increased pressure
i know on my small block chevy , the high volume pumps have taller gears inside , and the standard oil pumps and high pressure pumps only differ in springs on the relief valve
jbp also states they are doing neutral balance shafts also , i wont get to see any of it since ill never get a motor from them
ok back on topic
id like to see someone with a jbp reflashed pcm try the hp challange
since both are in cananda , wonder if any old rsm employees went to jpb , lol
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since both are in cananda , wonder if any old rsm employees went to jpb , lol
I hope you were joking if not that's an amazingly dumb remark... so Maximum Boost is in the US, does that mean Hahn Racecraft also sucks ?
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ok back on topic
id like to see someone with a jbp reflashed pcm try the hp challange
since both are in cananda , wonder if any old rsm employees went to jpb , lol
yeah totally stupid remark.... ive been there countless times. greg and mev know their @!#$.
sucks about rsm, didnt like their style anyways.....
Protomec,i wonder if anyone would let you check their JBP flashed computer?
RSM in the furnace factory building ? i thought they always were in there as they been blowing hot air up our ass's for years
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ok back on topic
id like to see someone with a jbp reflashed pcm try the hp challange
since both are in cananda , wonder if any old rsm employees went to jpb , lol
yeah totally stupid remark.... ive been there countless times. greg and mev know their @!#$.
sucks about rsm, didnt like their style anyways.....
well GRD did screw people here in the US , and the guy from there went to rk , and now doesnt work there , so anyone from rsm could have gone to jbp
its all possible , ive seen sereral pics of motors jbp has done , besides jbp in common each motor had the same problem , the piston pins destroying the cylinders , guess i imagined that part ??
untill i see other wise about jbp , ill never get anything from them
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since both are in cananda , wonder if any old rsm employees went to jpb , lol
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besides jbp in common each motor had the same problem , the piston pins destroying the cylinders , guess i imagined that part ??
Did Todds engine take a crap already?
