Got a built Eco with Saab setup. Those running the reflash are u monitoring afrs and how accurate is the reflash as can you play with the boost a little while still running the reflash? Just weighing it against hp tuners as I think it might be overkill for what I want which is 10 to 12 lbs. Also I have the ss injectors and they with my 04 rail don't fit right and I know I have to use a 02 rail but Im not convinced they will fit right. Looking for a little dependability. Looking for some insight from those currently running it.
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im also looking for an auto crap flash ecu and i have not been able to find one. i have to talk to a gm dealer to see if i can get the flas done.
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Your ss injectors WILL fit the 02 rail. I have saab green tops that are the same Injector and I have zero issues.
Ok will look into a 02 rail. still looking for efficency terms from those running it.
What do you mean? They 02 rail flows just as good as the 03-05 rails. I had a 03-05 rail on my 02 and there was no difference.
you can use lsj injectors on 03 an up fuel rail.
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Tried that it's a hack solution for my fully built nicely done motor. Not a real solution. Will go to a 02 rail before I do thatt
thx though
That hack solution has worked very well and has caused 0 problems for 2 years. But the LSJ injectors are a perfect fit with the 02 rail.
Take it from someone who has ran the crapflash with it's intended use. It sucks and i cant wait to ditch it. HPT is never overkill, it is a piece of mind knowning that you are correctly tuned.
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HP Tuners over kill? Even that is under kill for all setups, we really dont have a good and easy tuning setup (sure hpt is easy but it still sucks ass, and sure the ld9 reflash is ok but all the rewiring sure as hell aint easy).
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Tinkles-- u said it worked great for you for a while but it sucks. Why??? Anyone actually monitor the reflash with a wideband?
I think that hp tuners is a viable solution but why is the reflash crap? It should be able to monitor boost and adjust accordingly right?
I know when i had the M45 GM reflash it was garbage. I got HPT tuned and never looked back. The GM tunes really suck because they make you run rich as hell and just overall sucks.
My SS has the GM Stage 1 tune and it's decent. Car runs really good on this one though.
jason norwood wrote:Tinkles-- u said it worked great for you for a while but it sucks. Why??? Anyone actually monitor the reflash with a wideband?
I think that hp tuners is a viable solution but why is the reflash crap? It should be able to monitor boost and adjust accordingly right?
It actually doesnt see boost and its just a faked tune with fuel still based off of throttle position.
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Leafy wrote:jason norwood wrote:Tinkles-- u said it worked great for you for a while but it sucks. Why??? Anyone actually monitor the reflash with a wideband?
I think that hp tuners is a viable solution but why is the reflash crap? It should be able to monitor boost and adjust accordingly right?
It actually doesnt see boost and its just a faked tune with fuel still based off of throttle position.
This. It is just a 2.5 bar fake. The "hack" injector fix works great for me, but the GM crapflash is utter junk.
Also this is a crapflash problem:
GM reflash sucks.
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Yea I watch the crap flash with my wideband everytime I am in the car it sucks. All monitoring it with a wideband does is assure you that you hate the tune honestly. I can't wait to get tuned with HPT.
I posted this in the other post as well. We have also run LSJ injectors in a 03+ rail with no leaks, and seeing 12+ psi no issues.
You can't blame sparkblow out on a flash. If it is spark blow out.
When I first read thi orginal post I thought it could be from too rich. I have had this happen on my LD9. No soo much because of the reflash, but the lack of files HPT has given us. All other GM have a IAT fuel multiplier, but we do not. I know it exist in the ECU because during the summer my AFR's were dead on and winter comes and it get super rich. So rich I got this issue and had to retune.
I realize the flash for the Eco is not tunable, but that does not mean this multiplier is not there.
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I have LSJ injectors in my 02, same shape and size as my stock injectors. Fit perfect. No modifications.
ya, james but The topic is for the 03 plus rail and not the 02 because the 02 rail fits the injectors perfect , the 03 plus rail comes up short.
On a side note are you gonna be at autorama?
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I run the SS Stage 2 (42#/hr) in my 04. Not the greatest fit, but they don't leak. Also I am now running Trifecta's modified GM 2.5bar "fake" and so is Aaron (Blueboost) on his heavily built-n-boosted (21psi) Eco-powered Cavalier. We see no issues with Vince's modifications to the GM tune (It definitely NEEDED modding the way GM made it...). Solid/steady afrs, no codes, no knock, and great power with smooth delivery. If people around me were more experienced with HPT then I may have gone with that, but I am now satisfied running 10psi on my 2.5bar tune.
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