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New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:07 AM
Has anyone used the new MTX-L: Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge and Sensor by Innovate Motorsports?
Did I mention its only $199.

I assume this statement,"(2) 0-5v fully programmable linear analog outputs for use with engine management systems “closed-loop” and external dataloggers ", would make using this the same as the other Innovate Motorsports widebands with HPTuners?







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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:13 AM
Havent seen these yet, and I do need a new wideband hmmmmm.



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:19 AM
Club Teh Jeffie wrote:Havent seen these yet, and I do need a new wideband hmmmmm.

That was my thoughts exactly.



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:24 AM
email Karo for a price on one. I got my last wideband from him cheaper than anyone else ever could.
sales@allecotec.com

mines not that old but i would seriously consider getting this one to replace my xd-16



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:34 AM
BuiltNBoosted wrote:email Karo for a price on one. I got my last wideband from him cheaper than anyone else ever could.
sales@allecotec.com

mines not that old but i would seriously consider getting this one to replace my xd-16

I could just call him. lol



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:42 AM
Damn, I wish that was around when I bought my LC-1....I love the fact that is has a the sweep gauge as well as the digital readout.

Looks like this is their response to the AEM unit.





Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:13 AM
-MD- Enforcer wrote:
BuiltNBoosted wrote:email Karo for a price on one. I got my last wideband from him cheaper than anyone else ever could.
sales@allecotec.com

mines not that old but i would seriously consider getting this one to replace my xd-16

I could just call him. lol


yeah i go that route too. sometimes its easier to just email him. i know he i swamped.

and i think innovate has always been better AEM due to the ability to tie into HPT. this gauge looks great.



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:37 PM
One day might get this one for my car always and use my LC1 for tuning others cars.



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:43 PM
I have the XD-16 / LC-1 combo which is pretty much the same as for looks. This guage kind of just looks like they packaged the 2 together took a few features out of the XD-16 and priced it at an affordable price.



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:48 PM
it says 100% digital wideband, and its the only one on the market. is digital that much better? it says it can read faster and what not.... is that REALLY worth it?



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:00 PM
I personally don't see how a wideband can be more digital than they already are unless it was some new O2 sensor technology the controller and guage already seem pretty digital to me.




Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:02 PM
Looks like a new sensor. Up until now all O2 sensors have been analog. Even though narrow bands for the most part just work like digital sensors using and analog signal.


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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 7:07 PM
sounds good to me





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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:12 PM
hmmm i might look into switching it up for sure...



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:25 PM
Interesting, I like that they have a sweep gauge now. I was planning on an LC-1, I just might go with this now...



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:46 AM
I think I'm sold. The more I read about, the more I want it.

I purchased it! I'll update after I receive it.



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:25 PM
waiting for ryan to see this and chime in his thoughts



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:24 PM
Indeed, I'll be interested to see how well it plays with HPTuners. Wasn't there some problem with the LC-1 that forced you to reset it every couple of weeks?



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:44 PM
Transporter7220 wrote:Indeed, I'll be interested to see how well it plays with HPTuners. Wasn't there some problem with the LC-1 that forced you to reset it every couple of weeks?


nah, my first one out of the box was bad. so i sent that one back and they sent me 2 to replace it

i calibrate mine when i do oil changes, im right there, under the car, so why not. to me it looks just as HPT friendly as my xd-16, just faster, im not sure how it can be much faster but i might find out...



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:48 PM
Ahh, once every oil change isn't bad, I'll get good use of my O2 sensor socket. Best $10 EVAR!



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:01 PM
huh? It should be done after like 3 months and then like once a year after that.


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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:13 PM
For a LC-1:

Normally aspirated daily driver:
- Calibrate before installation of new sensor
- Calibrate new sensor again after 3 month of use
- Thereafter calibrate once a year or every 20,000 miles, whichever comes first
Turbo car, daily driver (tuned rich):
- Calibrate before installation of new sensor
- Calibrate new sensor again after 3 month of use
- Thereafter calibrate twice a year or every 10,000 miles, whichever comes first
Race car
- Calibrate before first installation of new sensor
- Calibrate once per race weekend
Dyno use
- Calibrate a new sensor
- Calibrate every 2-3 days, depending on usage



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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:18 PM
Mines coming up for the first calibration. Actually I think I'm a bit over now. But I'm really trying to get rid of this car.


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Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:34 PM
i just do mine while the oil is draining. new o2 sensor once a year too.



Re: New Wideband...Innovate Motorsports MTX-L
Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:40 AM
Ahh damn im switching from my AEM UEGO.

Ryan, thoughts? hehe










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